ChaoticMusings

So where has it all gone wrong?
When I started school way back, not one child in my class of around 30 pupils was not potty-trained.

No one I knew left school 10 years later unable to read and write ,  and we didn't have realms of homework either, like lots of today's secondary schools insist on.

Latest reports are, from starting school, to leaving school, many children in the UK seem so less advanced than 50 or 60 years ago...why?

As for table manners, that was drummed into me and my brothers from a very early age.    I had to hold my knife and fork properly ( I had a spoon and shover when I was in my high chair) and had to keep my mouth closed when eating, not speak at table or interrupt my elders and ask  before I could leave the table.   We never ate anywhere but at the table.    I wasn't quite so strict with my daughter but she had to hold her cutlery properly and not speak with her mouth full.  

There's nothing worse than people with no table manners.   And it should  be started early with kids.

🤦🏻‍♀️ … Unbelievable.  Syl, you should have stopped after the words ‘don’t think’ in your thread title.

Because of course, overstressed, underpaid teachers who often oversee large class numbers, have nothing better to do than clean up after incontinent kids.

The ‘Majority of parents’ should be forced to take competency tests, before replicating themselves 🙄

Digger wrote:

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As for table manners, that was drummed into me and my brothers from a very early age.    I had to hold my knife and fork properly ( I had a spoon and shover when I was in my high chair) and had to keep my mouth closed when eating, not speak at table or interrupt my elders and ask  before I could leave the table.   We never ate anywhere but at the table.    I wasn't quite so strict with my daughter but she had to hold her cutlery properly and not speak with her mouth full.  

There's nothing worse than people with no table manners.   And it should  be started early with kids.

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 I was brought up similarly. 

One of my pet peeves is dirty eaters, turns my stomach. I used to avoid meals with my ex’s family as it was like being at a trough.

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"Six in ten parents have admitted they don't think their children need to be potty-trained before starting school, a damning poll has revealed.

New government data suggests parents are failing to prepare their tots for pre-school. 

Some 64 per cent of mothers and fathers think their children do not need to be able to focus on a task for ten minutes before joining an educational institution by age four.

 

While 70 per cent have put basic dining skills on the back burner as they say it's not important for their youngsters to know how to use a knife and fork, according to The Sun.

The Department for Education has launched a guidebook following concerns teachers have to fill the role of parents during school hours while also juggling classes.

Primary school teachers have previously complained of having to change the nappies of children as old as six, because they have not been toilet-trained at home."

 

 

Majority of parents 'DON'T think children need to be potty trained before starting school' - poll

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 That is REALLY worrying. I was definitely trained before attending pre school let alone primary school.

Primary school teachers having to change nappies of 6 year old children is totally wrong, it's not the teachers job but it's also a sign of neglect by the parents in question imo.You don't allow your child to need nappies at 6years old! 

It's just one of the things the younger generation of parents don't seem capable of doing...or don't know how to do. Some 5 year old children now attend reception not being able to read very well or not at all. A significant proportion of parents aged thirty or under either don't want to equip their child ready for school and teach them the basics or they don't realise they have to.

I honestly think some younger single mothers who don't have much contact with family or friends realise they have to teach their children skills such as reading but when it comes to potty training I think some first time mothers don't know how to teach the child and feel embarrassed about it. They probably don't want to tell their doctor they are struggling. The worst possible scenario is that they don't care. Discipline has gone. There are lower standards of conduct accepted in.society now and this is one of the examples. It's so unfair on the child though, what if it makes them a target at school when it means so much to fit in? Mothers struggling need to admit they need assistance.

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Syl wrote:

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Teachers are also now required to supervise young children as they brush their teeth....apparently there is a huge rise in tooth decay amongst youngsters, one of the causes is lack of tooth hygiene.

I wonder how many parents of 4 and 5-year-olds who go to school with unbrushed teeth and need teachers to change their nappies, are glued to social media instead of actually parenting, my guess is ... most.

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 Talking of which that story about the father who sat and watched porn while his two year daughter died of heatstroke locked in his car.   He'd locked the kids in the car countless times despite his Missus telling him off.  Why on earth she stayed with him is beyond me.  I'd have booted  him out of the house, divorced him and taken the kids, then that toddler might still be alive.

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 Wasn’t the wife an (American) doctor/a medical professional of some sort?…her comforting him upon his detainment/arrest was disgusting I felt.

If it’s the idiot I’m thinking of he had a strop because he wanted to take a shower and the cops wouldn’t let him, totally blasé at the child’s death.