ChaoticMusings

I think mountains are made out of molehills much of the time.  Storm in a tea-cup.   People seem to get hyped up on the internet.  I personally think the internet will eventually lead to peoples brains going into meltdown.  We micro-analyse every word every gesture every outgassing.   I think the sociology of crowds probably provides an explanation.  It seems to me crowds are more subject to suggestibility than individuals.

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With regard Starbold - he is more concerned with preserving traditional British culture than preserving "British racial purity".  He is part of an older generation that will be replaced with a more educated generation that will see Britain as just a secular - consumer - welfare society - that allows anything as long as it is within the law.

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 He is a product of his generation and while I disagree with him on many things I admit I spoke out in support of him about unregulated immigration and the impact it might have on our values and traditions. Lots of people get tarred as racist for those concerns but IMO they're not racist just have a healthy self interest in not seeing the freedoms we've achieved being discarded.

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There is a lot of hypocrisy involved as well.  You can call someone a "racist" for wanting to preserve "traditional British values" but then you can call someone out for "cultural appropriation" if they decide to braid their hair like an Afro-American or call them out as being "culturally insensitive" if they wear a sombrero hat for Halloween or a fancy dress party.  

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Magica wrote:

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Oh sorry Twizzler I thought it was me and Syl.  

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 Anonymous coward messed up the posts Mags, he combined both our comments, answered as if I had made the full post, then even failed to separate his reply from the posts he was answering.

Such folly. 

Twizzler was answering ANON.

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Then as admin why don't you sort out the quotes so people like Twizzler don't get offended by something that wasn't aimed at them?

 

It's not rocket science.

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Then, why don't you p off back to the Dogs and do what you need to do and that is ban the racist and worse rather than make stupid posts here and there. You rebuked the username, Starbold this morning and then you posted, outed him saying he posted as several posters. From what I've heard, it's only admin that has more than one name on the go as you can easily tell by their IP. You don't have the guts to ban Starbold or Dean and the other names used by the two and we all know why. Fletch was banned for nothing as was Micky. Micky did not more than usual other winning the argument. Rather than make whinging comments, you should have the authority to ban, so ban them. You gave Avon a penis just becuse he shows you up in an argument yet you won't ban nasty posters like Starbold and Co.

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Wtf are you talking about you stupid cunt? I can't ban anyone, i'm not admin, i'm a guest on there just as i'm anonymous on here. Get a fucking grip.

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The language you use gives the game away and sop lying. Btw, I won't call you a "cunt" as I'd be insulting real "cunts."  Starbold and dean are running rings around you becuse they know you are a

dr synne wrote:

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With regard Starbold - he is more concerned with preserving traditional British culture than preserving "British racial purity".  He is part of an older generation that will be replaced with a more educated generation that will see Britain as just a secular - consumer - welfare society - that allows anything as long as it is within the law.

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 He is a product of his generation and while I disagree with him on many things I admit I spoke out in support of him about unregulated immigration and the impact it might have on our values and traditions. Lots of people get tarred as racist for those concerns but IMO they're not racist just have a healthy self interest in not seeing the freedoms we've achieved being discarded.

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 Well you can be a product of your generation but become educated surely?

My problem with Major in particular is he seems to hate every "unwhite" individual on planet Earth, there is no middle ground with him. He hates any man or woman who is not white equally. For example he loathes ordinary family men  working 9 to 5 just as much as he despises knife wielding youths in gangs inciting fear and commiting crime.

They are both worthy of hatred in his eyes if they are not white. I cannot deal with that sort of wanton bigotry and ignorance.

When faced with the fact that many white youths are in gangs,  that many white men hurt children or commit heinous acts he just dismisses the statistics. He simply cannot accept that all men are equal, that we all bleed the same red.

Or more to the point, he doesn't care. White people are allowed to commit crimes, they are allowed to hurt others and spread fear in gangs. Because they are white people  and therefore superior. 

That is not a generational outlook, not all older people are racist or prejudiced in any way,  let alone to such a delusional extreme.

Such a bigoted mindset is entirely the fault of the individual alone.

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Oh sorry Twizzler I thought it was me and Syl.  

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 Anonymous coward messed up the posts Mags, he combined both our comments, answered as if I had made the full post, then even failed to separate his reply from the posts he was answering.

Such folly. 

Twizzler was answering ANON.

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Then as admin why don't you sort out the quotes so people like Twizzler don't get offended by something that wasn't aimed at them?

 

It's not rocket science.

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Then, why don't you p off back to the Dogs and do what you need to do and that is ban the racist and worse rather than make stupid posts here and there. You rebuked the username, Starbold this morning and then you posted, outed him saying he posted as several posters. From what I've heard, it's only admin that has more than one name on the go as you can easily tell by their IP. You don't have the guts to ban Starbold or Dean and the other names used by the two and we all know why. Fletch was banned for nothing as was Micky. Micky did not more than usual other winning the argument. Rather than make whinging comments, you should have the authority to ban, so ban them. You gave Avon a penis just becuse he shows you up in an argument yet you won't ban nasty posters like Starbold and Co.

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Wtf are you talking about you stupid cunt? I can't ban anyone, i'm not admin, i'm a guest on there just as i'm anonymous on here. Get a fucking grip.

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The language you use gives the game away and sop lying. Btw, I won't call you a "cunt" as I'd be insulting real "cunts."  Starbold and dean are running rings around you becuse they know you are a

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You genuinely think i'm admin on that site? 

Ok then, whatever floats your boat 

Yes we can.
Sorry but some things are simply inexcusable.

I said that he was uneducated but what knowledge is there to learn about not hating people because of something they cannot change, the way they look. Such hatred is illogical and as such innate to such individuals.

I am a bit hardcore with bigots who are so  extreme but I don't understand why someone being a different colour makes them seemingly inferior in the eyes of racists.

I thought BPhee was skating on thin ice stating people of the same ethnic group are more likely to consider each other attractive or that she didn't find an entire colour physically attractive to behold. Is that not the way ethnic cleansing lies?

A multicultural society can only bring diversity into the genepool and society alike which surely can only be healthy.

You remarked, I believe, that if people grew up surrounded only by their own race that may explain BPhee's  personal preference. Not so. I grew up with only two black boys in the secondary school and one was a very handsome, if deviant😄, lad and the other plain looking. The first had no shortage of admirers, myself being one! BPhee's  opinion is hers alone, not a phenomena that could be considered.

Black people, like er, everyone(!)are individual with  unique genetic attributes. They share the same skin colour only, possibly the same hair type. But they don't all look like one person...I was genuinely baffled to hear such a view upheld. Denzel Washington does not resemble Snoop Dogg for example. One was very attractive in his youth,  the other (imo at least) never.

If someone wants to say another individual is inferior  because they are of a different skin colour that person is not uneducated but simply a nasty piece of work.

Major says he doesn't like black people. Replace the word "black "with "disabled". It then sounds as chilling as the illogical hatred of the racist truly is, without all the window dressing and flimsy fairweather excuses.

The term "people of colour" annoys me deeply too. No. They are not people of  colour, just people. Who happen to be black not "dark skinned" or any other unnecessary adjective making an issue of something where no issue needs to exist. The term might be considered politically correct but Infact it only serves to promote division.

I just find it both perplexing and tbh sickening that someone could harbour hatred for another individual due to the colour of their skin in the year  2020.

Sorry for the rant Dr, and if you found my parallel above offensive but I consider some of the views presented on Dogs currently as hate speech to put it mildly,  and it does not warrant a discussion, no matter how well meaning the intention.

Such people are being given too much respect for their blatant bigotry, and I find  it highly irregular that they are continually given a platform for their repulsive rhetoric.

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I am a bit hardcore with bigots who are so  extreme but I don't understand why someone being a different colour makes them seemingly inferior in the eyes of racists.

 

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 Your degree in psychology should have covered stuff like that.

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No one would dare say the word "unwhite" in polite company. It's the year 2020.

They would be viewed as a bigot with issues if they said it in impolite company now I consider it.

I don't know anything about this poster, the fates have kindly allowed me to avoid posting with the gentleman but his views are hopelessly woefully abhorrent .

 

 

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It makes me laugh that both you and the author of this thread are outraged by Starbold's use of the word "unwhite". If you see some of the similar bigoted descriptions he uses for black and mixed raced people and gays and gypsies, you'd be speechless. He also uses vicious terms for women who have  babies with darker men, even if it's within marriage he calls them sluts & slags. Good job he has never heard of the kardashians - he'd have a series of strokes, 

Here is a selection of the terms he uses: >

"swabs, pongos, chogies, frisbees
turd burglar, shirtlifter, ponthook, limpo, carpet muncher,chinks, muziz, wogs, nignogs, coons, pakis,
liquorice all sorts, half-breeds, ********,  picaninnies, gyppos, ghettowallahs."

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Georgia x wrote:

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Yes we can.
Sorry but some things are simply inexcusable.

I said that he was uneducated but what knowledge is there to learn about not hating people because of something they cannot change, the way they look. Such hatred is illogical and as such innate to such individuals.

I am a bit hardcore with bigots who are so  extreme but I don't understand why someone being a different colour makes them seemingly inferior in the eyes of racists.

I thought BPhee was skating on thin ice stating people of the same ethnic group are more likely to consider each other attractive or that she didn't find an entire colour physically attractive to behold. Is that not the way ethnic cleansing lies?

A multicultural society can only bring diversity into the genepool and society alike which surely can only be healthy.

You remarked, I believe, that if people grew up surrounded only by their own race that may explain BPhee's  personal preference. Not so. I grew up with only two black boys in the secondary school and one was a very handsome, if deviant😄, lad and the other plain looking. The first had no shortage of admirers, myself being one! BPhee's  opinion is hers alone, not a phenomena that could be considered.

Black people, like er, everyone(!)are individual with  unique genetic attributes. They share the same skin colour only, possibly the same hair type. But they don't all look like one person...I was genuinely baffled to hear such a view upheld. Denzel Washington does not resemble Snoop Dogg for example. One was very attractive in his youth,  the other (imo at least) never.

If someone wants to say another individual is inferior  because they are of a different skin colour that person is not uneducated but simply a nasty piece of work.

Major says he doesn't like black people. Replace the word "black "with "disabled". It then sounds as chilling as the illogical hatred of the racist truly is, without all the window dressing and flimsy fairweather excuses.

The term "people of colour" annoys me deeply too. No. They are not people of  colour, just people. Who happen to be black not "dark skinned" or any other unnecessary adjective making an issue of something where no issue needs to exist. The term might be considered politically correct but Infact it only serves to promote division.

I just find it both perplexing and tbh sickening that someone could harbour hatred for another individual due to the colour of their skin in the year  2020.

Sorry for the rant Dr, and if you found my parallel above offensive but I consider some of the views presented on Dogs currently as hate speech to put it mildly,  and it does not warrant a discussion, no matter how well meaning the intention.

Such people are being given too much respect for their blatant bigotry, and I find  it highly irregular that they are continually given a platform for their repulsive rhetoric.

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 One.... it's not for you to be annoyed or not at what people of colour want to call themselves.  Its nothing to do with you.  

Two... bib isn't that what backgammon said and you jump on him for a number of pages over it? 

 

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 One...I agree with you completely. If a black person wishes to call themselves the term "a person of colour" as I see Avon did in the OP, that's completely up to him.  When white people use  the term sadly it sounds prissy and again, promotes division, highlighting the difference in colour when it needn't even be an issue.

Just as black people have chosen to adopt the N word and use it ,which I think they are perfectly entitled to do. Alot of white people heartily disagree,  they believe  it is a racist term therefore nobody should be permitted to say it, black folk included.  I disagree.

Black people have taken away it's power by claiming it as their own as a term of endearment for each other. It is their right to do that if they so wish. They have turned the tables on white people as it were by adopting the word. 

White people can never use it however due to it's connotations and historical meaning when white people used it in generations gone by. They simply cannot. And it's tough I'm afraid.

As to your second rather trivial  point..no it's not what I said to BackGammon.