ChaoticMusings

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

If you have to self isolate....

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Online shopping....what a palaver. I swear I could have got ready, drove to supermarket, browsed the isles and done a weeks shop by the time I had done my online shop.
I have a headache.

I'm sure it'll get easier with practice.

dr synne · Musing at the Chaos

A guest over on Dogs is terming this an existential crisis.

Is it? Am I missing something?

Concerning yes I can understand that. Existential crisis sounds a tad over dramatic.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

dr synne wrote:
A guest over on Dogs is terming this an existential crisis.

Is it? Am I missing something?

Concerning yes I can understand that. Existential crisis sounds a tad over dramatic.

It's certainly a life changing one...and something none of us have experienced in our lifetimes.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

I think everyone needs ration books like they had in the war.

Date: Mar 17 6:36 PM, 2020

dr synne wrote:
A guest over on Dogs is terming this an existential crisis.

Is it? Am I missing something?

Concerning yes I can understand that. Existential crisis sounds a tad over dramatic.

Yes it is. Firstly hairdressers will have to shut I predict at the weekend or thereabouts and that is a crisis beyond all reasonable thought.

Also, I do believe that everything happens for a reason. Something wiped out the dinosaurs and they were far more strong and powerful creatures than us measly humans.

We haven't treated this planet kindly and Mother Nature or maybe more philosophical still, the creator of Mother Nature, may be getting their own back. I'm not a religious individual in the traditional sense but I am a spiritual person and humans have become ever more vicious , without conscience, and oblivious both to each other and towards the planet that is their home.

I am quite aware I sound like a barking mad conspiracy theorist and it may be just a Darwin type situation where only the truly healthy will survive, no spiritual association at all. But even so that is a culling of a major proportion of the human race akin to the 1912 Spanish flu (correct me if I'm wrong about the name ) where millions perished. Every so often these fatal virus enter our planet and with grim determination terminate people's existence in large numbers. I thought swine flu was sinister but I have a feeling the fatalities will be of a far higher number with this virus when all is said and done.

We are dealing with an unknown quantity here. We don't know what we are dealing with and frankly I don't know why people aren't terrified. These are dismal times to be living in.

Either I am over estimating the virus or others are still, after all the coverage of the bleak reality we all must face for the next Goodness knows how long, woefully ignorant of the possible heartbreaking loss of life of and inevitable economic collapse.

John Doe · Still Here!

Twizzler wrote:
I think everyone needs ration books like they had in the war.

What did you do in the war Twiz?

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

John Doe wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
I think everyone needs ration books like they had in the war.
What did you do in the war Twiz?

Cheeky bugger

John Doe · Still Here!

John Doe wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
I think everyone needs ration books like they had in the war.
What did you do in the war Twiz?

Maddog · Go Outside

Not to scare y'all to death, but here is where the problem lies. Getting to a doctor won't matter if you get a serious case of this. It's getting to an ICU that matters. I know BoJo has even contacted Jaguar to make ventilators (you have around 5,000, we have around 135,000 with maybe 75,000 more locked away in the event of a Bio Weapons attack.

Below is the number of ICU beds per capita.

Date: Mar 18 12:38 AM, 2020

Dear Maddog, how is it possible that the US has more than five times the number of ICU beds than the UK? It has been inculcated within me that the US health service is the embodiment of inequality constructed by profit making bastards whilst the UK NHS and welfare state is the envy of the world because it is free.

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Dear Maddog, how is it possible that the US has more than five times the number of ICU beds than the UK? It has been inculcated within me that the US health service is the embodiment of inequality constructed by profit making bastards whilst the UK NHS and welfare state is the envy of the world because it is free.

Lol.

Our system is expensive and a little convoluted. Because much of it is set up for profit and specialist make so much money, we have a lot of shiney expensive equipment

I will admit tnere are access issues for some for basic care.

But emergency care is different. We are very good at that and we fix people first and worry about payment later. Sometimes that payment creates a financial hardship. Still beats being dead.

It's what drives wealthy Canadians south when they get tired of waiting for "elective " surgery.

Date: Mar 18 11:58 AM, 2020

I would like to say that my two earlier posts were meant to be supportive of Text and were meant for her. They should not be mixed up with imagined shenanigans from someone else. My comments stand alone and should be read literally on content and not imagined author. In the past I also posted one or two comments in support of G-X. When I post comments in support of others I try to avoid criticising the other party / parties - I don't want to get involved in the actual "squabble" itself. For me it is question of my own personal ethics as a guest / anonym.

Text · Getting Gobby

Syl wrote:
Is the NHS crumbling already?
Our local GP has now boarded it's doors and prescription boxes up, there is a notice on the door saying no one will be seen by a Dr until they have had a telephone consultation first. There is now just one telephone number to replace the three they had before.

OH has been trying to ring it for the last hour....it's unobtainable.

At this stage, I don't think it's due to the NHS being overwhelmed, it's more a question of the GP surgery staff (who are often young mums, and grandmums not wanting to catch covid & pass it on to family members.

A week ago, I was walking past my GP surgery and noticed a queue in the STREET outside it, and its door was closed. It looked like a long snaking queue at sainsbury's checkout!! Apparently the people waiting had to ring the doorbell, and a receptionist dressed in protective gear like an astraunaut would come to the door every so often and growl "can I help you" … in an ironically unhelpful,impatient tone of voice.

Oh my days. you gotta laugh, really. If you didn't you'd probably weep, at the way things are going.

dr synne · Musing at the Chaos

Anonymous wrote:
dr synne wrote:
A guest over on Dogs is terming this an existential crisis.

Is it? Am I missing something?

Concerning yes I can understand that. Existential crisis sounds a tad over dramatic.
Yes it is. Firstly hairdressers will have to shut I predict at the weekend or thereabouts and that is a crisis beyond all reasonable thought.
Also, I do believe that everything happens for a reason. Something wiped out the dinosaurs and they were far more strong and powerful creatures than us measly humans.
We haven't treated this planet kindly and Mother Nature or maybe more philosophical still, the creator of Mother Nature, may be getting their own back. I'm not a religious individual in the traditional sense but I am a spiritual person and humans have become ever more vicious , without conscience, and oblivious both to each other and towards the planet that is their home.
I am quite aware I sound like a barking mad conspiracy theorist and it may be just a Darwin type situation where only the truly healthy will survive, no spiritual association at all. But even so that is a culling of a major proportion of the human race akin to the 1912 Spanish flu (correct me if I'm wrong about the name ) where millions perished. Every so often these fatal virus enter our planet and with grim determination terminate people's existence in large numbers. I thought swine flu was sinister but I have a feeling the fatalities will be of a far higher number with this virus when all is said and done.
We are dealing with an unknown quantity here. We don't know what we are dealing with and frankly I don't know why people aren't terrified. These are dismal times to be living in.
Either I am over estimating the virus or others are still, after all the coverage of the bleak reality we all must face for the next Goodness knows how long, woefully ignorant of the possible heartbreaking loss of life of and inevitable economic collapse.

I don't know if it's nature or Gods way of rebalancing things out or not. At the moment over or under estimating it is a guessing game. We're not going to be any wiser to this until it's done and dusted. That's the nature of viral outbreaks, they're not all that easy to predict. At the moment though we seem to have some grip on the fatality rate and the fact that for the majority, this is not a fatal disease.

How that impacts society, and how much of that will be fear of the virus rather than the actual virus also remains to be seen.

I remember being a young gay man growing up during the AIDS crisis in the eighties, some of the predictions and forcasts were bone chilling. They never happened though.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

dr synne wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
dr synne wrote:
A guest over on Dogs is terming this an existential crisis.

Is it? Am I missing something?

Concerning yes I can understand that. Existential crisis sounds a tad over dramatic.
Yes it is. Firstly hairdressers will have to shut I predict at the weekend or thereabouts and that is a crisis beyond all reasonable thought.
Also, I do believe that everything happens for a reason. Something wiped out the dinosaurs and they were far more strong and powerful creatures than us measly humans.
We haven't treated this planet kindly and Mother Nature or maybe more philosophical still, the creator of Mother Nature, may be getting their own back. I'm not a religious individual in the traditional sense but I am a spiritual person and humans have become ever more vicious , without conscience, and oblivious both to each other and towards the planet that is their home.
I am quite aware I sound like a barking mad conspiracy theorist and it may be just a Darwin type situation where only the truly healthy will survive, no spiritual association at all. But even so that is a culling of a major proportion of the human race akin to the 1912 Spanish flu (correct me if I'm wrong about the name ) where millions perished. Every so often these fatal virus enter our planet and with grim determination terminate people's existence in large numbers. I thought swine flu was sinister but I have a feeling the fatalities will be of a far higher number with this virus when all is said and done.
We are dealing with an unknown quantity here. We don't know what we are dealing with and frankly I don't know why people aren't terrified. These are dismal times to be living in.
Either I am over estimating the virus or others are still, after all the coverage of the bleak reality we all must face for the next Goodness knows how long, woefully ignorant of the possible heartbreaking loss of life of and inevitable economic collapse.

I don't know if it's nature or Gods way of rebalancing things out or not. At the moment over or under estimating it is a guessing game. We're not going to be any wiser to this until it's done and dusted. That's the nature of viral outbreaks, they're not all that easy to predict. At the moment though we seem to have some grip on the fatality rate and the fact that for the majority, this is not a fatal disease.
How that impacts society, and how much of that will be fear of the virus rather than the actual virus also remains to be seen.
I remember being a young gay man growing up during the AIDS crisis in the eighties, some of the predictions and forcasts were bone chilling. They never happened though.

Good point about the AIDS crisis. Everyone who had ever had sex was being told they could die from this new disease that was predicted to kill us all in the most horrible way.

Those that had never had sex thought they could catch it by drinking from the same cup or touching someone who had...gay or straight, many people were paranoid thanks to a mix of over the top government info and paranoia.

I do think this is different though....it's proven by the already many cases that this is a hidden disease that anyone could catch anywhere.

I heard a Dr answering questions on the news yesterday. One question was could the virus also be caught from objects not people. The answer was obviously yes, and the virus could live for 2 or 3 days on anything an infected person had touched....so don't touch your face and when you get home wash your shopping in soapy water.

dr synne · Musing at the Chaos

Syl wrote:
dr synne wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
dr synne wrote:
A guest over on Dogs is terming this an existential crisis.

Is it? Am I missing something?

Concerning yes I can understand that. Existential crisis sounds a tad over dramatic.
Yes it is. Firstly hairdressers will have to shut I predict at the weekend or thereabouts and that is a crisis beyond all reasonable thought.
Also, I do believe that everything happens for a reason. Something wiped out the dinosaurs and they were far more strong and powerful creatures than us measly humans.
We haven't treated this planet kindly and Mother Nature or maybe more philosophical still, the creator of Mother Nature, may be getting their own back. I'm not a religious individual in the traditional sense but I am a spiritual person and humans have become ever more vicious , without conscience, and oblivious both to each other and towards the planet that is their home.
I am quite aware I sound like a barking mad conspiracy theorist and it may be just a Darwin type situation where only the truly healthy will survive, no spiritual association at all. But even so that is a culling of a major proportion of the human race akin to the 1912 Spanish flu (correct me if I'm wrong about the name ) where millions perished. Every so often these fatal virus enter our planet and with grim determination terminate people's existence in large numbers. I thought swine flu was sinister but I have a feeling the fatalities will be of a far higher number with this virus when all is said and done.
We are dealing with an unknown quantity here. We don't know what we are dealing with and frankly I don't know why people aren't terrified. These are dismal times to be living in.
Either I am over estimating the virus or others are still, after all the coverage of the bleak reality we all must face for the next Goodness knows how long, woefully ignorant of the possible heartbreaking loss of life of and inevitable economic collapse.

I don't know if it's nature or Gods way of rebalancing things out or not. At the moment over or under estimating it is a guessing game. We're not going to be any wiser to this until it's done and dusted. That's the nature of viral outbreaks, they're not all that easy to predict. At the moment though we seem to have some grip on the fatality rate and the fact that for the majority, this is not a fatal disease.
How that impacts society, and how much of that will be fear of the virus rather than the actual virus also remains to be seen.
I remember being a young gay man growing up during the AIDS crisis in the eighties, some of the predictions and forcasts were bone chilling. They never happened though.
Good point about the AIDS crisis. Everyone who had ever had sex was being told they could die from this new disease that was predicted to kill us all in the most horrible way.
Those that had never had sex thought they could catch it by drinking from the same cup or touching someone who had...gay or straight, many people were paranoid thanks to a mix of over the top government info and paranoia.
I do think this is different though....it's proven by the already many cases that this is a hidden disease that anyone could catch anywhere.
I heard a Dr answering questions on the news yesterday. One question was could the virus also be caught from objects not people. The answer was obviously yes, and the virus could live for 2 or 3 days on anything an infected person had touched....so don't touch your face and when you get home wash your shopping in soapy water.

The AIDS thing was mad. People believing anything despite the scientific evidence of how it spread etc. So yes this is different. But when it gets into the realms of speculation I think it's always good to take it with a grain of salt.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Depends how you take it with a pinch of salt.

Some people will be following government advice ...which is extreme and will affect every single person in the way they live their lives for the foreseeable future.

Others will carry on regardless and no doubt wait till they are forced to follow orders, there is no medium ground.

dr synne · Musing at the Chaos

Syl wrote:
Depends how you take it with a pinch of salt.

Some people will be following government advice ...which is extreme and will affect every single person in the way they live their lives for the foreseeable future.
Others will carry on regardless and no doubt wait till they are forced to follow orders, there is no medium ground.

Ah but advice based on what we know is sensible to follow I think.

But I'm hearing about people getting terrified by every internet rumour or conspiricy theory out there. And then they over react panic buy etc.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

dr synne wrote:
Syl wrote:
Depends how you take it with a pinch of salt.

Some people will be following government advice ...which is extreme and will affect every single person in the way they live their lives for the foreseeable future.
Others will carry on regardless and no doubt wait till they are forced to follow orders, there is no medium ground.
Ah but advice based on what we know is sensible to follow I think.

But I'm hearing about people getting terrified by every internet rumour or conspiricy theory out there. And then they over react panic buy etc.

Yeah, some people panic and make it 10 times worse for everyone else.

It's a bad idea to heed the armchair experts who always seem to know more than the scientists, no need really, what the scientists are saying is worrying enough.

It's nice to hear that as well a the selfish ones clearing the shelves and ignoring all the government guidelines, there are others who are doing their best to help people who may not be as able a they are.

Community spirit isn't quite dead yet.