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Text · Getting Gobby

If you have to self isolate....

Text · Getting Gobby

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Is the NHS crumbling already?
Our local GP has now boarded it's doors and prescription boxes up, there is a notice on the door saying no one will be seen by a Dr until they have had a telephone consultation first. There is now just one telephone number to replace the three they had before.

OH has been trying to ring it for the last hour....it's unobtainable.
It's the same here.
The health centre is seeing patients by video call only..the elderly are no longer allowed admittance to the surgery in any event so they would have to video call in order to obtain medical advice. What if they are unable to video call, I don't know how to flipping do it!
It's fine in theory to ask people to look after the elderly in these diabolical circumstances but people are meant to be social distancing so how can they practically help their elderly family and friends without risking their own health?
It's also all very well advising individuals to avoid going to pubs, clubs, restaurants, theatres, coffee shops. .well basically everywhere. They won't listen. Their logic will be that they can't possibly get infected ,other people get sick. Even healthy young people will carry the germs without knowing and pass it on to parents ,friends. People don't feel a social responsibility for people beyond their own family, the crowds at the Stereophonics concert and clubs last night show people just aren't getting it.
Boris should have actually enforced the rule such as in France rather than merely suggesting it. I'm not sure how all people can work at home though, that's simply not possible in some avenues of work. The implications of social distancing is about to hit this country hard and the mental health complications of those vulnerable mentally forced to be constantly isolated will have to be considered.
This is our reality until August at the earliest. I'm very anxious about it all, I have to say.

Inevitable that this policy will be rolled out nationwide asap. Even with younger people there's restricted entry - they have to queue up outside the locked doors of the surgery, press the buzzer and speak to the staff via intercom. If considered worthy of being allowed in, they are confronted by staff in the sort of full-body astronaut-looking suits seen in this itv link. Can't blame them really.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-18/coroanvirus-nhs-doctors-asks-why-gamble-with-our-lives-as-calls-for-tests-grow/

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I don't blame staff anywhere wanting to protect themselves, it's vital. If all the front line staff get ill the rest of us will be in a worse state than we already are.

I was pretty annoyed with our GP surgery the other day not because it was boarded up, but because the one line of connection which was by telephone ...was not available to anyone.
That's very worrying for people who seriously need to speak to a GP.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anyway, this self isolating lark is not too bad. I am 2 days in so far.

Been able to get out in the garden today to prepare for spring. It's easy to order plants online....so I can have a nice summer garden without trailing round garden centres.

My weekly shop is going to be delivered next Wednesday….food shopping is always a chore so that's a bonus.

I have time to chat to mates on the phone whenever I want....if they are self isolating they are always in to chat back.

Got loads of books in...when/if I run out I will just order more.

Not going out means not spending as much money....another bonus.

I'm sure other people are taking advantage of the new way of life, someone once said "When life serves you lemons make lemonade"...good advice.

Date: Mar 20 12:37 AM, 2020

Syl wrote:
Anyway, this self isolating lark is not too bad. I am 2 days in so far.

Been able to get out in the garden today to prepare for spring. It's easy to order plants online....so I can have a nice summer garden without trailing round garden centres.

My weekly shop is going to be delivered next Wednesday….food shopping is always a chore so that's a bonus.

I have time to chat to mates on the phone whenever I want....if they are self isolating they are always in to chat back.

Got loads of books in...when/if I run out I will just order more.

Not going out means not spending as much money....another bonus.

I'm sure other people are taking advantage of the new way of life, someone once said "When life serves you lemons make lemonade"...good advice.

I'm glad you are enjoying the relaxation Syl but that's because it has only been 2 days.

Cabin fever will set in for most. In a month's time when the police and Army are enforcing lock down people will have been self isolating for about 5 weeks and will be longing for other company or just fresh air.

The homeless will certainly end up hospitalised if not worse because they will either catch the virus or due to the lack of people giving them change and cafe's kindly giving away much needed food , they simply will starve or dehydrate .

People with underlying mental health issues will literally worry themselves to death, ocd sufferers who need to do things a certain way will just flaunt isolation recommendations in order to remain mentally healthy. Depression will get worse as will anxiety, those with serious mental health concerns without insight i.e schizophrenia may take their own lives.

Mental clarity for those forced to self isolate alone without any family or friends to speak of will decrease steadily.

I really hope the self imposed isolation lasts as little as it has to. A week or so might seem fun, different to the daily grind. But soon fears and anxieties will become more prevalent as time goes on and more cases and deaths are confirmed . A visible police presence to keep people prisoners in their own home will be seen as the enemy not a comfort. People will make weak excuses to go outside.

In London the situation is incredibly grim, Westminster is considered to be full of confirmed diagnosed cases, why are they continuing to go to work and appear on television? Does social isolation not include daytime tele presenters and MP's? They will all be spreading the virus even if they display very little symptoms.

I'm just glad I don't live in London atm. But I am frightened.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I think everyone is frightened tbh, the death toll is rising and many experts think the virus hasn't even taken hold properly yet.
Saying we, the UK are just a couple of weeks behind Italy is enough to scare anyone.

I know I am only 3 days in now, which is nothing, but I just think we have to change our mindset if we want to get through this (or are lucky enough to get through this) without getting depressed, so if anyone does have any tips on what they may do to fill their time …share it with the rest of us.

The people who live alone, are unwell, have no one to help them, I truly feel for. We have no neighbours that are in that position....but please, if others do, try to help them in some way.
Many older people wont be able to order shopping online, but even if they can and that's what they decide to do, many supermarkets are not taking new online customers now because they cant cope with the sudden surge, it's a real dilemma to get food for many.

I have seen a couple of pics of really elderly people in supermarkets, they stand there with empty baskets looking at shelves stripped of everything.
If you are hoarding....that is the result of your actions.
Well done.

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 20th of March 2020 04:33:06 PM

Date: Mar 20 5:02 PM, 2020

Syl wrote:
I think everyone is frightened tbh, the death toll is rising and many experts think the virus hasn't even taken hold properly yet.
Saying we, the UK are just a couple of weeks behind Italy is enough to scare anyone.

I know I am only 3 days in now, which is nothing, but I just think we have to change our mindset if we want to get through this (or are lucky enough to get through this) without getting depressed, so if anyone does have any tips on what they may do to fill their time …share it with the rest of us.

The people who live alone, are unwell, have no one to help them, I truly feel for. We have no neighbours that are in that position....but please, if others do, try to help them in some way.
Many older people wont be able to order shopping online, but even if they can and that's what they decide to do, many supermarkets are not taking new online customers now because they cant cope with the sudden surge, it's a real dilemma to get food for many.

I have seen a couple of pics of really elderly people in supermarkets, they stand there with empty baskets looking at shelves stripped of everything.
If you are hoarding....that is the result of your actions.
Well done.

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 20th of March 2020 04:33:06 PM

Don’t shop in supermarkets, use your local small stores.

Date: Mar 20 6:38 PM, 2020

Once you have had it and recovered from it then you can join the herd and go back to work and socialize.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think everyone is frightened tbh, the death toll is rising and many experts think the virus hasn't even taken hold properly yet.
Saying we, the UK are just a couple of weeks behind Italy is enough to scare anyone.

I know I am only 3 days in now, which is nothing, but I just think we have to change our mindset if we want to get through this (or are lucky enough to get through this) without getting depressed, so if anyone does have any tips on what they may do to fill their time …share it with the rest of us.

The people who live alone, are unwell, have no one to help them, I truly feel for. We have no neighbours that are in that position....but please, if others do, try to help them in some way.
Many older people wont be able to order shopping online, but even if they can and that's what they decide to do, many supermarkets are not taking new online customers now because they cant cope with the sudden surge, it's a real dilemma to get food for many.

I have seen a couple of pics of really elderly people in supermarkets, they stand there with empty baskets looking at shelves stripped of everything.
If you are hoarding....that is the result of your actions.
Well done.

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 20th of March 2020 04:33:06 PM
Don’t shop in supermarkets, use your local small stores.

Good advice....I hear smaller shops are not getting ransacked in the same way.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Once you have had it and recovered from it then you can join the herd and go back to work and socialize.

That's likely but according to the scientists not definite.

It must be a great position to be in though being almost sure that the potential deadly bug cant get to you again.....not this time round anyway.

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Once you have had it and recovered from it then you can join the herd and go back to work and socialize.
That's likely but according to the scientists not definite.
It must be a great position to be in though being almost sure that the potential deadly bug cant get to you again.....not this time round anyway.

Not so apparently.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/484942-japan-confirms-first-case-of-person-reinfected

JP · Burning up the forum

BackGammon wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Once you have had it and recovered from it then you can join the herd and go back to work and socialize.
That's likely but according to the scientists not definite.
It must be a great position to be in though being almost sure that the potential deadly bug cant get to you again.....not this time round anyway.
Not so apparently.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/484942-japan-confirms-first-case-of-person-reinfected

Possible case of it happening it says. Looks like other experts around the world dispute it further down in the article. It's way too early to know for sure if someone can get it twice or not.

-- Edited by JP on Saturday 21st of March 2020 12:10:48 PM

Digger · Admin

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think everyone is frightened tbh, the death toll is rising and many experts think the virus hasn't even taken hold properly yet.
Saying we, the UK are just a couple of weeks behind Italy is enough to scare anyone.

I know I am only 3 days in now, which is nothing, but I just think we have to change our mindset if we want to get through this (or are lucky enough to get through this) without getting depressed, so if anyone does have any tips on what they may do to fill their time …share it with the rest of us.

The people who live alone, are unwell, have no one to help them, I truly feel for. We have no neighbours that are in that position....but please, if others do, try to help them in some way.
Many older people wont be able to order shopping online, but even if they can and that's what they decide to do, many supermarkets are not taking new online customers now because they cant cope with the sudden surge, it's a real dilemma to get food for many.

I have seen a couple of pics of really elderly people in supermarkets, they stand there with empty baskets looking at shelves stripped of everything.
If you are hoarding....that is the result of your actions.
Well done.

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 20th of March 2020 04:33:06 PM
Don’t shop in supermarkets, use your local small stores.

The ones charging £25 for bog roll? I think not.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Not everyone is out to rip others off.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
Not everyone is out to rip others off.

one would hope so

John Doe · Still Here!

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Not everyone is out to rip others off.
one would hope so

Then again you have evil bastards like this scumbag - I hope the judge gives him the maximum possible sentence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51991245

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

Anyone suffering from a pre existing respiratory disease like copd

or asthma can get a rescue pack from the doctors, which

will have a 5 days supply of antibiotics and corticosteroids.

If you start having trouble breathing, you will have the medication there to take.

-- Edited by Twizzler on Sunday 22nd of March 2020 11:52:33 AM

-- Edited by Twizzler on Sunday 22nd of March 2020 11:52:51 AM

Magica · Go Outside

Very good Twiz.

My hubs had a heart attack but not up there with the 1.5million who need help. I don't get why not tbh.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Well I am now a week in...staying in.
I have avoided all social contact with everyone but OH...not been shopping, mixing, banking, anything really.
Mothers day was so different, son came to the back and passed his card and pressie through the open patio door.
We have missed a planned birthday party and a planned meal out, life at the moment is very surreal for all of us.

So far though it's not too bad, hopefully no one is going hungry, though some of the photo's of the aged staring at empty shelves with empty baskets in their hands has been heart breaking....please help if you know anyone who is alone and may be struggling, I wish I could.

I don't think we are too far away from a lockdown, no one allowed out unless it's for work or important errands.

Magica · Go Outside

Well after talking to my friend recently, I'm going to isolate with my hub. We just go and sort the garden, needs fences painting etc ready for summer. Sure we won't get bored.