What about those poor people that could not attend their loved ones funeral and that news item about the young lads funeral where his family were not allowed to attend. Dominic drove over 250 miles away with a sick wife. What would have happened if his car broke down, what about social distancing then? He, Cummings had the cheek to tell the media people , "you are not keeping social distancing." The arrogance is a slap in the face of the NHS and public that have and are following the rules. I could understand it if it was a 10/20 mile drive but over 250 miles and then saying what he is now saying.
Interesting one. On the surface of it, it looks bad. And his Wife hiding the truth means she obviously thought the same.
If you just think about this as you hear it without delving into it any further it does sound bad and hypocritical! But going by the letter of the rules he actually hasn't done wrong. There is something in the rules that says you can in exceptional circumstances facilitate childcare for potentially vulnerable children. If it is true that he was worried that him and his wife would become so ill that they wouldn't be able to adequately look after their 5 year old. Then what he did could be judged as fair enough!
I actually recall like several weeks ago Jenny the DMO being asked a question by the media at the daily briefings on behalf of a member of the public. There we no public questions then. The question was about looking after Children if you're ill, Jenny said its an exceptional circumstance it comes under looking after the vulnerable so you can do that. Apparently the full breakdown of the rules on GOV.UK has always stated that you can do what Cummings did.
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If what is being reported is true then his behaviour has been absolutely disgusting and shows a breathtaking contempt for the general public.
Apparently he broke the Lockdown three times (the story is changing very fast).
A lot of top Tories are secretly furious as well, so it's not just a party politics matter either.
There are thousands upon thousands of people in this country who could not be with their loved ones when they passed or even attend their funerals.
DC's wife wrote in the magazine she works for that her husband was having spasms, very unwell and in bed for ten days but was seen dancing around in the garden.
The 260 mile trip takes at least 4hours and 40 minutes and with a 4 yr old in the car, did he not stop the car to go to the loo, etc and his wife and put at risk others?
Wife was ill, she could have self isolated and he could have looked after the kid and supported by online shops and chums
his sister could have come down and picked up the kid
The minsiters were very quick yesterday 5 of them coming out in support of this rule bender but the same ministers are usually in hiding along with the PM when it comes to care homes safety, PPE etc.
About Cummings being out and about - don't worry the ministers have him covered as cummings "was out at the castle after the 14 days incubation period" about the other time they are not sure and think its a lie
About the feds contacting the cummunings family - it was his day that did that.
Don't forget, people could not see their dying loved ones, go to their funeral, visit their very ill relatives, friends a few miles up the road but this arrogant man that sticks his two fingers up at you judging by his crass comments is being fully supported for his indefensible behavior by the PM and his lackeys. The whole covid thing according to politicians behavior is to make them look good and fuck the public.
Interesting one. On the surface of it, it looks bad. And his Wife hiding the truth means she obviously thought the same.
If you just think about this as you hear it without delving into it any further it does sound bad and hypocritical! But going by the letter of the rules he actually hasn't done wrong. There is something in the rules that says you can in exceptional circumstances facilitate childcare for potentially vulnerable children. If it is true that he was worried that him and his wife would become so ill that they wouldn't be able to adequately look after their 5 year old. Then what he did could be judged as fair enough!
I actually recall like several weeks ago Jenny the DMO being asked a question by the media at the daily briefings on behalf of a member of the public. There we no public questions then. The question was about looking after Children if you're ill, Jenny said its an exceptional circumstance it comes under looking after the vulnerable so you can do that. Apparently the full breakdown of the rules on GOV.UK has always stated that you can do what Cummings did.
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Boris and his stooges are going to sweep all this with cummings under the carpet.
They say it is ok that he visited with his family because they were ill, with suspected coronavirus.
Yet the rules say that you cannot visit family while (a) the country is on lockdown and (b) you may have
the virus. Boris made these rules to save the NHS.
Interesting one. On the surface of it, it looks bad. And his Wife hiding the truth means she obviously thought the same.
If you just think about this as you hear it without delving into it any further it does sound bad and hypocritical! But going by the letter of the rules he actually hasn't done wrong. There is something in the rules that says you can in exceptional circumstances facilitate childcare for potentially vulnerable children. If it is true that he was worried that him and his wife would become so ill that they wouldn't be able to adequately look after their 5 year old. Then what he did could be judged as fair enough!
I actually recall like several weeks ago Jenny the DMO being asked a question by the media at the daily briefings on behalf of a member of the public. There we no public questions then. The question was about looking after Children if you're ill, Jenny said its an exceptional circumstance it comes under looking after the vulnerable so you can do that. Apparently the full breakdown of the rules on GOV.UK has always stated that you can do what Cummings did.
-- Edited by JP on Saturday 23rd of May 2020 03:40:56 PM
Boris and his stooges are going to sweep all this with cummings under the carpet.
They say it is ok that he visited with his family because they were ill, with suspected coronavirus.
Yet the rules say that you cannot visit family while (a) the country is on lockdown and (b) you may have
the virus. Boris made these rules to save the NHS.
There's always been caveats within the rules Twiz. Regarding facilitating arrangements to look after the vulnerable. Jenny the DMO mentioned that yesterday as well. His 4 year old Child could have arguably become vulnerable.
IF the story remains solely as it was told as of yesterday afternoon. Then I personally don't have a problem with it. I can understand it and think ok fair enough. May be you could say he just panicked too early. But with your own Child that's obviously understandable.
However, if these other new allegations are found to be true, then I would have a problem with those.
-- Edited by JP on Sunday 24th of May 2020 03:53:29 PM
Cummings must have such dirt on all of them. One minute watching Boris just now was enough, he’s sticking by him. Right now I predict a riot as the song goes.
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Cummings must have such dirt on all of them. One minute watching Boris just now was enough, he’s sticking by him. Right now I predict a riot as the song goes.
I think you’re correct there BG. People now are basically gonna say ‘ Fuck this I am gonna see my family ‘ . BoJo has certainly lost face over DC.
Cummings must have such dirt on all of them. One minute watching Boris just now was enough, he’s sticking by him. Right now I predict a riot as the song goes.
I think you’re correct there BG. People now are basically gonna say ‘ Fuck this I am gonna see my family ‘ . BoJo has certainly lost face over DC.
All ready happening. Been happening all along in some cases. I've seen people visit family all throughout the crisis. Someone around here has done just that I've seen their Grand Children visit them all along within the confides of their Garden.
The fact is people should think of themselves and their family. If you want to protect yourself and your family the best you can carry on doing so, carry on social distancing etc Don't think about what others are doing. No one makes me say 'fuck it' I'll go visit my Nan then. I will do that when I think its safe as possible, no one else will influence that decision.
-- Edited by JP on Sunday 24th of May 2020 06:15:14 PM
Cummings must have such dirt on all of them. One minute watching Boris just now was enough, he’s sticking by him. Right now I predict a riot as the song goes.
I think you’re correct there BG. People now are basically gonna say ‘ Fuck this I am gonna see my family ‘ . BoJo has certainly lost face over DC.
Big mistake defending Cummings - all smoke and mirrors in the press conference today.
Initially I was very impressed with Boris and the government's response to COVID-19 but now almost 37,000 deaths later it's all beginning to unravel and I expect a second wave is far more likely because of Penfold's actions, there have been enough selfish bastards already and now others who have actually observed the rules will think fuck it and they can now do what they like.
-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 24th of May 2020 06:17:08 PM
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Cummings must have such dirt on all of them. One minute watching Boris just now was enough, he’s sticking by him. Right now I predict a riot as the song goes.
When the resignation did not come by 4pm, I said that to my partner. He was not in a life or death situation where he, his wife, 4 yr old had to drive 260 miles plus in a very, very confined space. If some does recall seeing him his family at a service station they won't have proof now as its weeks after the even.
Boris evaded every question. Cummings said he could not care less what others though as he really believes he has done nothing wrong when millions of people wanted to go and see their uncle, aunt, grandparents, parents, children who may have been suffering medically, met. This new rule about holidays and 14 days stuck in your home, flat, etc - you could use your instinct as the PM put it and feel to are going to go made if you stayed in any longer and go out - there are many ways to interperate anyhting and the cream being "gut instinct" as that of that scruffy man.