ChaoticMusings

Syl wrote:

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On another note, him and Boris are supposedly good friends as well as work colleagues.
He can see that the flak is rising, it's undoing the good that this government has done so far and destroying the reputation of the PM and others.

If he had any integrity at all, even if he is unrepentant at breaking the rules and has no intention of apologising....he would resign.

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlCKV8sZwQ

Watch the above video. It is scum like that, the media, and activists, that make people like Cummings think OK fuck you! If I was him I wouldn't bother trying to explain myself to any of them ever again.

If I lived in the street I know me and others would be out there telling those scumbags to fuck off. Think of the potential virus spreading that gaggle of scumbags are creating in that street! May be some old vulnerable people walk down that street to the shops for food or to fetch medicine some days.

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 03:05:49 PM

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 03:19:13 PM

Syl wrote:

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On another note, him and Boris are supposedly good friends as well as work colleagues.
He can see that the flak is rising, it's undoing the good that this government has done so far and destroying the reputation of the PM and others.

If he had any integrity at all, even if he is unrepentant at breaking the rules and has no intention of apologising....he would resign.

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 Boris said something in yesterday's podium gathering  (not sure what they call it! ) about how he wouldn't be speaking to Dominic  at all,  as he did not act in an illegal manner.

Gove said his actions were consistent with the lockdown regulations. 

I know you have time for the Tories but this is their main failing and the reason people can't trust them.  They are dishonest and just hope for the best,  rather than treating the public with respect , being truthful and admitting their mistakes.

I consistently remember during the height of lockdown,  they said those with symptoms should not leave their homes under any circumstances. His wife was displaying severe symptoms,  she had the virus. So the lady was putting her own health at risk and risking everyone else's by taking an extensive road trip. Dominic too had  mild symptoms that got steadily worse.  He too had the virus. Road trips were disallowed for everybody!

So he did legally and ethically break the laws.  I do sympathise with him  as I assume he was not thinking clearly,  deeply concerned for his family.  But to assume he may  keep his job when others have lost so much  due to restrictions he insisted on but refused to adhere to himself is further insult to injury. 

Even Conservative members are suggesting he should consider his position. He just has to go. The mindless mob attitude needs to go  also,  jeering and throwing things is intimidation and achieves nothing.

 

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Syl wrote:

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On another note, him and Boris are supposedly good friends as well as work colleagues.
He can see that the flak is rising, it's undoing the good that this government has done so far and destroying the reputation of the PM and others.

If he had any integrity at all, even if he is unrepentant at breaking the rules and has no intention of apologising....he would resign.

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 Boris said something in yesterday's podium gathering  (not sure what they call it! ) about how he wouldn't be speaking to Dominic  at all,  as he did not act in an illegal manner.

Gove said his actions were consistent with the lockdown regulations. 

I know you have time for the Tories but this is their main failing and the reason people can't trust them.  They are dishonest and just hope for the best,  rather than treating the public with respect , being truthful and admitting their mistakes.

I consistently remember during the height of lockdown,  they said those with symptoms should not leave their homes under any circumstances. His wife was displaying severe symptoms,  she had the virus. So the lady was putting her own health at risk and risking everyone else's by taking an extensive road trip. Dominic too had  mild symptoms that got steadily worse.  He too had the virus. Road trips were disallowed for everybody!

So he did legally and ethically break the laws.  I do sympathise with him  as I assume he was not thinking clearly,  deeply concerned for his family.  But to assume he may  keep his job when others have lost so much  due to restrictions he insisted on but refused to adhere to himself is further insult to injury. 

Even Conservative members are suggesting he should consider his position. He just has to go. The mindless mob attitude needs to go  also,  jeering and throwing things is intimidation and achieves nothing.

 

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 I agree with what you say....just to add though I have never voted Tory in my life.

What I have said is I am glad it was they not Corbyn in control when this virus struck...and I do think on the whole they managed the country quite well.

Sad to see the goodwill is being eradicated now over one self entitled man who doesn't have the humility to realise he is ruining his so called friends standing with the general public.

Twizzler wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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If he had doubts about his eye sight ( and that sounds like an excuse quickly thought up to cover his bank holiday family jaunt) he shouldn't have even gotten behind the wheel of his car.
Does he have a few drinks then drive around just to see if he is sober enough?

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 Especially with his child in the car also. 

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 Exactly....he is imo a liar.

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Syl wrote:

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On another note, him and Boris are supposedly good friends as well as work colleagues.
He can see that the flak is rising, it's undoing the good that this government has done so far and destroying the reputation of the PM and others.

If he had any integrity at all, even if he is unrepentant at breaking the rules and has no intention of apologising....he would resign.

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 Boris said something in yesterday's podium gathering  (not sure what they call it! ) about how he wouldn't be speaking to Dominic  at all,  as he did not act in an illegal manner.

Gove said his actions were consistent with the lockdown regulations. 

I know you have time for the Tories but this is their main failing and the reason people can't trust them.  They are dishonest and just hope for the best,  rather than treating the public with respect , being truthful and admitting their mistakes.

I consistently remember during the height of lockdown,  they said those with symptoms should not leave their homes under any circumstances. His wife was displaying severe symptoms,  she had the virus. So the lady was putting her own health at risk and risking everyone else's by taking an extensive road trip. Dominic too had  mild symptoms that got steadily worse.  He too had the virus. Road trips were disallowed for everybody!

So he did legally and ethically break the laws.  I do sympathise with him  as I assume he was not thinking clearly,  deeply concerned for his family.  But to assume he may  keep his job when others have lost so much  due to restrictions he insisted on but refused to adhere to himself is further insult to injury. 

Even Conservative members are suggesting he should consider his position. He just has to go. The mindless mob attitude needs to go  also,  jeering and throwing things is intimidation and achieves nothing.

 

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 What do you mean Boris said he wasn't going to even speak to him. Give me exact words. But he spoke to Cumming's for 6hrs on Sunday. The press reported that. 

The crux of it is. He broke no 'law'. He made a judgement based on his specific quickly developing situation. He acted within the guidelines. What is so difficult to understand with all this?

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Syl wrote:

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JP wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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On another note, him and Boris are supposedly good friends as well as work colleagues.
He can see that the flak is rising, it's undoing the good that this government has done so far and destroying the reputation of the PM and others.

If he had any integrity at all, even if he is unrepentant at breaking the rules and has no intention of apologising....he would resign.

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlCKV8sZwQ

Watch the above video. It is scum like that, the media, and activists, that make people like Cummings think OK fuck you! If I was him I wouldn't bother trying to explain myself to any of them ever again.

If I lived in the street I know me and others would be out there telling those scumbags to fuck off. Think of the potential virus spreading that gaggle of scumbags are creating in that street! May be some old vulnerable people walk down that street to the shops for food or to fetch medicine some days.

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 03:05:49 PM

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 03:19:13 PM

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 The press that are hounding him are falling over each other. They are shouting out about him breaking the rules whilst doing it themselves.....idiots.

That doesn't detract from Cummings being the biggest hypocrite of them all though.

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 Cumming's acted within the stipulations of the guidelines. He did what he was allowed to do. No one can get away from these facts. No 'law' broken. I've yet to see anyone prove there was.

A Tory MP has just done an interview on the news saying for weeks now she has had emails from constituents asking her what can they do in very specific situations, she guided them to the guidelines on GOV-UK and gave them advice herself. Do we really think that no one across this whole Country 67 million people hasn't done anything similar to Cumming's during lockdown? I bet they have. We simply wouldn't know however.

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 04:58:00 PM

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 So you are saying he didn’t break lockdown rules (3) times?

Twizzler wrote:

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JP wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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JP wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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On another note, him and Boris are supposedly good friends as well as work colleagues.
He can see that the flak is rising, it's undoing the good that this government has done so far and destroying the reputation of the PM and others.

If he had any integrity at all, even if he is unrepentant at breaking the rules and has no intention of apologising....he would resign.

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlCKV8sZwQ

Watch the above video. It is scum like that, the media, and activists, that make people like Cummings think OK fuck you! If I was him I wouldn't bother trying to explain myself to any of them ever again.

If I lived in the street I know me and others would be out there telling those scumbags to fuck off. Think of the potential virus spreading that gaggle of scumbags are creating in that street! May be some old vulnerable people walk down that street to the shops for food or to fetch medicine some days.

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 03:05:49 PM

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 03:19:13 PM

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 The press that are hounding him are falling over each other. They are shouting out about him breaking the rules whilst doing it themselves.....idiots.

That doesn't detract from Cummings being the biggest hypocrite of them all though.

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 Cumming's acted within the stipulations of the guidelines. He did what he was allowed to do. No one can get away from these facts. No 'law' broken. I've yet to see anyone prove there was.

A Tory MP has just done an interview on the news saying for weeks now she has had emails from constituents asking her what can they do in very specific situations, she guided them to the guidelines on GOV-UK and gave them advice herself. Do we really think that no one across this whole Country 67 million people hasn't done anything similar to Cumming's during lockdown? I bet they have. We simply wouldn't know however.

-- Edited by JP on Tuesday 26th of May 2020 04:58:00 PM

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 So you are saying he didn’t break lockdown rules (3) times?

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 Yes. Several different people have read out the actual rules and the stipulations that are mentioned within those rules. Did you listen to the video I posted days back? That vid had Jenny and Matt Hancock talking about childcare issue exceptions, back on March 24th.

Hancock should have played that video in today's briefing. Some of these frigging idiots in the media were even there on that day.

I agree Matt Hancock should have spoken about how Filey can get up and running again back to its full glory!!

One more point about today's briefing. And the flouting of rules debate.

So Cumming's driving a car to place that has 2 or 3 separate buildings within it(for a fair reason imo) not meeting up with anybody else closely! That's going to make people flout the rules gather and congregate together!

What utter bollocks. If people are dumb enough to gather, congregate, without any thought for their own health or their family, so be it. Go ahead mix with people all you like. It's actually the media who are more likely to encourage people to flout rules if they keep talking about the flouting of rules, day in, day out. The way they have been taking their cameras in the last couple of weeks to Beaches for example isn't a good idea.

Why are the media seemingly never accountable for their actions? The public follow their lead as much if not more than Politicians. The media is one thing Trump is right about.