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Vicks · Burning up the forum

RE: Looting in the USA

John Doe · Still Here!

Really observing the social distancing outside the US embassy in London I see.

Why were they not dispersed?

I hope their elderly relatives are watching.

All the effort people have made over the last three months here is being ruined now by selfish bastards partying/holding raves all over, filling the beaches like sardines and now this bandwagon jumping lot.

The Government has lost the plot as well - second wave here we come.

-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 31st of May 2020 07:17:51 PM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

The full video is on here.
Watching a man being murdered in slow motion is vey disturbing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8368305/George-Floyd-cop-knelt-neck-worked-security-Minneapolis-club.html

Vicks · Burning up the forum

Vicks · Burning up the forum

John Doe · Still Here!

Sadly this man's death may result in tens of thousands of others and I am referring here to the peaceful demonstrations, not all the violent, looting arsonist bastards.

The are the perfect example of how to spread COVID-19 and infect everyone they come into contact with afterwards.

https://www.livescience.com/george-floyd-protests-coronavirus-safety.html

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 3rd of June 2020 11:44:17 PM

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Sadly this man's death may result in tens of thousands of others and I am referring here to the peaceful demonstrations, not all the violent, looting arsonist bastards.

The are the perfect example of how to spread COVID-19 and infect everyone they come into contact with afterwards.
https://www.livescience.com/george-floyd-protests-coronavirus-safety.html

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 3rd of June 2020 11:44:17 PM

Oh don't worry.

We have stopped using the word covidiot because that was like, last weeks news.

It's all good now.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Sadly this man's death may result in tens of thousands of others and I am referring here to the peaceful demonstrations, not all the violent, looting arsonist bastards.

The are the perfect example of how to spread COVID-19 and infect everyone they come into contact with afterwards.
https://www.livescience.com/george-floyd-protests-coronavirus-safety.html

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 3rd of June 2020 11:44:17 PM
Oh don't worry.

We have stopped using the word covidiot because that was like, last weeks news.

It's all good now.

It's incredible how this story has relegated an ongoing Pandemic to a minor matter and that goes for here as well MD.

-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 4th of June 2020 01:50:19 AM

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger · Admin

Human beings can be totally disgusting. Those four cops should be tried for murder. And shame on every single person who has burned and looted their way through this. Then to cap it all...Channel 5 ran a documentary called Black Lives Matter - Rivers of Blood. Of course, black lives matter. But that whole programme felt like a match to a petrol can. There's enough hate and rage roaring around just now, without dragging the past into the future and making it more incendiary. There were plenty of white people back in Enoch Powell's time who were thoroughly disgusted with what he said. But they didn't show that.

Maddog · Go Outside

Every person alive today is responsible for 400 years of oppression and systemic racism.

That's what has been screamed at me for a week. Mostly by my white liberal friends.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
Every person alive today is responsible for 400 years of oppression and systemic racism.

That's what has been screamed at me for a week. Mostly by my white liberal friends.

Do they ever mention the African chiefs who happily sold millions of their 'brothers' into a life of slavery?

Slavery was widespread in Africa for many millennia before the Europeans ever got involved.

Do they ever mention that slavery (just look at sex trafficking) is endemic throughout the world and has been for all of human history?

What happened centuries in the past has fuck all to do with me and should be viewed in the context of the time - my and the vast majority of people's Caucasian ancestors were living in appalling poverty in disease and vermin ridden slums and forced to work for a pittance or starve.

It really pisses me off that none of this is ever mentioned.

Digger · Admin

Maddog wrote:
Every person alive today is responsible for 400 years of oppression and systemic racism.

That's what has been screamed at me for a week. Mostly by my white liberal friends.

John Doe · Still Here!

Digger wrote:
Human beings can be totally disgusting. Those four cops should be tried for murder. And shame on every single person who has burned and looted their way through this. Then to cap it all...Channel 5 ran a documentary called Black Lives Matter - Rivers of Blood. Of course, black lives matter. But that whole programme felt like a match to a petrol can. There's enough hate and rage roaring around just now, without dragging the past into the future and making it more incendiary. There were plenty of white people back in Enoch Powell's time who were thoroughly disgusted with what he said. But they didn't show that.

It seems White people are to blame for everything bad that has ever happened in the world - that's the narrative that has been hammered home time and again over the last few decades and I am fucking sick of it now.

People should read their history - but they won't.

Digger · Admin

I get pissed off when people in this country compare us to America regarding racism.

Back when America was lynching slaves, Britain was a place of black political organisation. Central to this were campaigns for the abolition of the slave trade. A determining element of that movement was the involvement of African men and women living in Britain who offered first-person testimony to the horrors of slavery, and formed lobby groups like the Sons of Africa which counted the writers and formerly enslaved Olaudah Equiano and Ottobah Cugoano among its members.

The last black man to be lynched in the States was 1981 !

Racism will always exist. Just like sexism and homophobia. I don't think there's any hope it never will...simply because it always has. There'll always be hate raging on this planet. It's been there since we first started forming tribes and building egos.

Digger · Admin

John Doe wrote:
Digger wrote:
Human beings can be totally disgusting. Those four cops should be tried for murder. And shame on every single person who has burned and looted their way through this. Then to cap it all...Channel 5 ran a documentary called Black Lives Matter - Rivers of Blood. Of course, black lives matter. But that whole programme felt like a match to a petrol can. There's enough hate and rage roaring around just now, without dragging the past into the future and making it more incendiary. There were plenty of white people back in Enoch Powell's time who were thoroughly disgusted with what he said. But they didn't show that.
It seems White people are to blame for everything bad that has ever happened in the world - that's the narrative that has been hammered home time and again over the last few decades and I am fucking sick of it now.
People should read their history - but they won't.

It's not convenient to go back as far as Roman times or the Ottoman empire. I wonder how many Germans still have to suffer from what happened in WW2?

You know, Scientology is banned in Germany. The Germans have the sense to see it for what it is, and after what happened with Hitler there's no way they were going allow a cult to become a power force on their doorstep.

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
I get pissed off when people in this country compare us to America regarding racism.
Back when America was lynching slaves, Britain was a place of black political organisation. Central to this were campaigns for the abolition of the slave trade. A determining element of that movement was the involvement of African men and women living in Britain who offered first-person testimony to the horrors of slavery, and formed lobby groups like the Sons of Africa which counted the writers and formerly enslaved Olaudah Equiano and Ottobah Cugoano among its members.
The last black man to be lynched in the States was 1981 !
Racism will always exist. Just like sexism and homophobia. I don't think there's any hope it never will...simply because it always has. There'll always be hate raging on this planet. It's been there since we first started forming tribes and building egos.

The Black folk here will remind you that you brought many of them here, and your slave trade and slavery in your colonies didn't end much before our civil war.

And lets not forget Africa and your colonies there.

Sorry, your people are guilty....

FOREVER!!!!!!

John Doe · Still Here!

Digger wrote:
I get pissed off when people in this country compare us to America regarding racism.
Back when America was lynching slaves, Britain was a place of black political organisation. Central to this were campaigns for the abolition of the slave trade. A determining element of that movement was the involvement of African men and women living in Britain who offered first-person testimony to the horrors of slavery, and formed lobby groups like the Sons of Africa which counted the writers and formerly enslaved Olaudah Equiano and Ottobah Cugoano among its members.
The last black man to be lynched in the States was 1981 !
Racism will always exist. Just like sexism and homophobia. I don't think there's any hope it never will...simply because it always has. There'll always be hate raging on this planet. It's been there since we first started forming tribes and building egos.

I was going to make that very point Digs but you have done it far more eloquently than I ever could.

We are one of the most tolerant and inclusive nations on earth and in the context of the time always have been.

This is the attitude from some over there (and here)- Bernard Hopkins, was a great fighter but is a huge arsehole, hypocrite and known racist thanks to his disgusting remarks to Joe Calzaghe before their fight.

From the Ring Magazine online today -

"You can’t have the yin without the yang. They are protesting through looting."

What a prick.

-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 4th of June 2020 02:28:07 AM

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
I get pissed off when people in this country compare us to America regarding racism.
Back when America was lynching slaves, Britain was a place of black political organisation. Central to this were campaigns for the abolition of the slave trade. A determining element of that movement was the involvement of African men and women living in Britain who offered first-person testimony to the horrors of slavery, and formed lobby groups like the Sons of Africa which counted the writers and formerly enslaved Olaudah Equiano and Ottobah Cugoano among its members.
The last black man to be lynched in the States was 1981 !
Racism will always exist. Just like sexism and homophobia. I don't think there's any hope it never will...simply because it always has. There'll always be hate raging on this planet. It's been there since we first started forming tribes and building egos.

But you're right about racism. I've told people here that there is racism in the UK and probably racist cops.

But they don't fucking kill 1000 people a year there.

More like one. Granted, we have guns thrown in so our cops can't fuck around with armed people. But we kill too many people that are just being assholes or are crazy. Y'all throw'em down, cuff them, drag them to jail and get back to work. You don't sit on them for 10 minutes or shoot them 85 times.