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John Doe · Still Here!

2020....The most miserable summer ever.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
The COVID death rate without a vaccine is lower than flu deaths with a vaccine. Did we shut the world down for that? Its BS

No what you have just said is bullshit - total and utter bullshit.

Try reading a few medical journals, science sites or anything else instead of taking notice of some conspiracy nut in his pants spouting bollocks online.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
The COVID death rate without a vaccine is lower than flu deaths with a vaccine. Did we shut the world down for that? Its BS

I have quoted some official figures that say different.

Where do you get your info from?

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
I think it's a real shame how those who have the luxury of not having to make the choice of food or bills today feel it's ok to call others who need to make those choices selfish. People are dying, people's business are going down all because of COVID and not because they have COVID. they are saying more people have died because of COVID than who have had it, But the relatives of those people are told to be quiet don't you know there is a pandemic going on, people are dying from COVID shut the fuck up.
As someone else on this board asked if you turned your TV off and didn't read the papers etc would you know there was a pandemic? No, I would not, but I would know we are going into a recession due to all the boarded-up stores and businesses.

I'm going to say this out loud, this is BS. something strange is going on and it's not about a virus

I believe it's very real, but that the people least affected are often the most vocal about how others should handle this problem.

JP · Burning up the forum

It's all getting a bit annoying now.

People do need to realise the Government can't hold the hands of 67 million people. They can't hold everyone's hands babying them every step of the way.

IF everyone does not do the right things. Keep distance, wear face coverings, wash hands regular. The facts are that this virus will once again spread and rise like wildfire! It takes huge numbers of people doing the right things to keep this thing at bay. It takes fairly small numbers of people doing the wrong things to make this thing kick off big time again. That's the precarious position we are all in.

It doesn't take a genius to know those above things. I'm fed up with people's stupidity. It isn't complicated. What your average everyday Joe needs to do everyday is not complicated.

The bullshit and bickering fired at the Government from the media, Labour and whoever regarding messaging is in my view making things worse for the people. STFU. Its not helping.

The basics are as simple as ABC to follow. Distance, masks, wash hands regular. Basically everyone has to do it for it to be truly effective. That's the crux of it. The authorities cannot hold the hands of 67 million people.

The authorities are working with an ever changing very fluid situation. People cannot be told every detail straight away and they cannot always have plenty of notice before any change is announced. It is just obvious.

Good job I'm not PM or any high profile Minister. I'd be saying how many more times do I have to repeat the same things, and in how many ways do I have to repeat them before you get these what are in fact very basic principles into your thick skulls!!

-- Edited by JP on Friday 31st of July 2020 04:59:34 PM

JP · Burning up the forum

Syl wrote:
It depends which figures you believe.
Globally flu kills between 250 to 500,000 people annually. In 6 months Corona virus has killed 673,000.

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-compare-influenza/

"Public Health England estimates that on average 17,000 people have died from the flu in England annually between 2014/15 and 2018/19. However, the yearly deaths vary widely from a high of 28,330 in 2014/15 to a low of 1,692 in 2018/19. Public Health England does not publish a mortality rate for the flu."
Deaths from Coronavirus are....

England cases
Updated 31 Jul at 12:17 local
Deaths
41,398

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United Kingdom cases
Updated 31 Jul at 12:17 local
Confirmed
Deaths
45,999

-

Global cases
Updated 31 Jul at 12:17 local
Confirmed
Deaths
673,223

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Coronavirus&FORM=covwpt&tf=U2VydmljZT1HZW5lcmljQW5zd2VycyBTY2VuYXJpbz1Db3JvbmFWaXJ1c01MIFBvc2l0aW9uPVRPUCBSYW5raW5nRGF0YT1UcnVlIEZvcmNlUGxhY2U9VHJ1ZSBQYWlycz1pbnRlbnQ6Q2hlY2tDb3JvbmFHZW5lcmFsO2Fib3ZlbmV3czp0cnVlOyB8&hs=Ldqf8eveoQKVBvtoFdAPnL1zomPtuKTOz57eMYnFGfc%3d

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 31st of July 2020 12:54:59 PM

Depends what year you look at with flu. There's been a few extremely bad years over the decades. Very high numbers of deaths. Generally yeah flu isn't worse than covid19.

The only point I would say is that I hope the authorities and media realise one day they will have to stop reporting covid19 daily deaths. Because unfortunately someone will probably die of covid19 forever vaccine or not.

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

Syl wrote:
Well it's farther away than Filey.

At least you don't need the International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis to go to Filey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Yes I think it's going to be with us for a very long time, just as flu is....just as the common cold is, some viruses will never be eradicated, trying to control it is the best people can do.

Like you said, till a vaccine is found it's up to each individual to look after themselves and that way they will be looking after everyone else.
That isn't happening, I see it myself in my vicinity, which I imagine is just an average road filled with average people.
Some are doing the right thing, some think they are above it all.....hence the spike.

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

Syl wrote:
You cant force people to have vaccinations

Ever heard of yellow fever????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

BackGammon · Burning up the forum

Jobless Oddball wrote:
Syl wrote:
You cant force people to have vaccinations
Ever heard of yellow fever????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

And Cholera. Depending on where you live cholera jabs are every 6 months.

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

BackGammon wrote:
And Cholera. Depending on where you live cholera jabs are every 6 months.

Are you saying that Sylvia is talking nonsense??????????????????????????????????????

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

We were talking about compulsory vaccinations for Coronavirus when one is made available.

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

Syl wrote:
We were talking about compulsory vaccinations for Coronavirus when one is made available.

You said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Syl wrote:
You cant force people to have vaccinations
And I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jobless Oddball wrote:
You can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Read the above very carefully and slowly then it might sink in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Troll off bore.

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

Syl wrote:
Troll off bore.

The old Northern debating team aint up to much these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Jobless Oddball wrote:
Syl wrote:
Troll off bore.
The old Northern debating team aint up to much these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your idea of debating is swapping puerile insults with blubberboy....which sadly for you, joyously for everyone else, you cant do anymore on here.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anyway...back to the miserable summer.
We have had one nice day in the last few weeks, that was Friday (I think, all the days get jumbled) temp was 31c in the afternoon, glorious. It lasted one day, back to wet and cloudy now.

Obviously not only the weather has made this summer the most miserable one I can remember. Latest research shows that Covid19 could possibly also have a lasting effect on hearing. Some who have recovered from the virus are now reporting hearing loss. and tinnitus.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200731/another-side-effect-of-covid-19----lasting-hearing-problems

-- Edited by Syl on Sunday 2nd of August 2020 11:42:34 AM

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

Syl wrote:
puerile insults

Syl wrote:
blubberboy

I see Covid has eradicated irony up in your neck of the woods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Jobless Oddball wrote:
Syl wrote:
puerile insults

Syl wrote:
blubberboy
I see Covid has eradicated irony up in your neck of the woods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hardly puerile if it's factual.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Weatherwise....we (Manchester) have had a glorious day. Some cloud around, but at last the sun keeps managing to break through, temp 27c with a breeze.
Beautiful. :sunny: