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JP · Burning up the forum

So who is supposed to ensure masks are worn in shops from this Friday?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I think one problem in the UK is we were told for months that masks can cause more problems than they solve, and the complete about turn has rankled some people.

I dont know about how many people will refuse to wear them in shops, but I do know in the greater Manchester area quite a few bus drivers have been shouted at, abused and spat at when they have confronted none mask wearers.

Maddog · Go Outside

JP wrote:
Maddog wrote:
We have had mandatory mask laws in Texas for a few weeks. I see 99% compliance as I'm out and about. Law enforcement isn't really enforcing them either. Its sort like wearing a shirt. It's just not socially acceptable to go grocery shopping without one.
Everywhere? Specific places? Public transport and every person entering a Hospital a few weeks ago. From today shops.
As I've said before I guess its a case of every little thing might help now. Even if masks don't have a large affect on the spread.

-- Edited by JP on Friday 24th of July 2020 03:18:10 PM

Everywhere inside that the public would go.

Even in a restaurant. Everyone wears them until their drinks are served.

I saw one guy try to enter a Pho restaurant I was at without one they made him stay outside.

JP · Burning up the forum

Syl wrote:
I think one problem in the UK is we were told for months that masks can cause more problems than they solve, and the complete about turn has rankled some people.

I dont know about how many people will refuse to wear them in shops, but I do know in the greater Manchester area quite a few bus drivers have been shouted at, abused and spat at when they have confronted none mask wearers.

Advice from scientists around the World in fact, has changed a bit of late. Expected with a new virus. As you learn more you know what the best tactics are. Its not difficult for people to understand. They now think mask wearing ca help impede the spread of the virus.

UK Government really can't win much of the time. If they follow the UK expert advice and indeed advice about masks from elsewhere in the World. They are still wrong in some people's eyes. Also if they had made mask wearing mandatory a month or more ago, some people would say, why?? The science isn't clear masks do fuck all! No win situation.

Unfortunately arseholes will act like arseholes no matter what.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

True re the arsehole comment, it's just one more reason for trouble causers to find trouble.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I think one problem in the UK is we were told for months that masks can cause more problems than they solve, and the complete about turn has rankled some people.

I dont know about how many people will refuse to wear them in shops, but I do know in the greater Manchester area quite a few bus drivers have been shouted at, abused and spat at when they have confronted none mask wearers.

We were told the same thing.

Our politicians have the advantage of a second wave. People are more inclined to listen when hospitalizations are going up.

In a weird twist, it appears that the heat may be causing the increase. People in hot states stay indoors during the day a lot. Like colder states do in the winter.

Outside appears to be very safe. Indoors, not so much. We are nowhere near the numbers the northern states have had, but we have rising numbers. Hence the mask orders and closing of all the bars.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I personally feel a lot safer outdoors than being inside with people, I don't know whether the actual heat has any effect on the virus, like you say it may be the way people act in extreme temps that affects the figures....that's something I needn't worry about anyway.

JP · Burning up the forum

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think one problem in the UK is we were told for months that masks can cause more problems than they solve, and the complete about turn has rankled some people.

I dont know about how many people will refuse to wear them in shops, but I do know in the greater Manchester area quite a few bus drivers have been shouted at, abused and spat at when they have confronted none mask wearers.
We were told the same thing.

Our politicians have the advantage of a second wave. People are more inclined to listen when hospitalizations are going up.

In a weird twist, it appears that the heat may be causing the increase. People in hot states stay indoors during the day a lot. Like colder states do in the winter.

Outside appears to be very safe. Indoors, not so much. We are nowhere near the numbers the northern states have had, but we have rising numbers. Hence the mask orders and closing of all the bars.

This is interesting. Look at the map. There is pretty much a pattern. Almost all of the dark red is around the bottom area and up the right hand side.

Interesting those collection of 4 places with the lightest colour. Wyoming etc

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-u-s-map-where-virus-has-been-confirmed-across-n1124546

Maddog · Go Outside

JP wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I think one problem in the UK is we were told for months that masks can cause more problems than they solve, and the complete about turn has rankled some people.

I dont know about how many people will refuse to wear them in shops, but I do know in the greater Manchester area quite a few bus drivers have been shouted at, abused and spat at when they have confronted none mask wearers.
We were told the same thing.

Our politicians have the advantage of a second wave. People are more inclined to listen when hospitalizations are going up.

In a weird twist, it appears that the heat may be causing the increase. People in hot states stay indoors during the day a lot. Like colder states do in the winter.

Outside appears to be very safe. Indoors, not so much. We are nowhere near the numbers the northern states have had, but we have rising numbers. Hence the mask orders and closing of all the bars.
This is interesting. Look at the map. There is pretty much a pattern. Almost all of the dark red is around the bottom area and up the right hand side.
Interesting those collection of 4 places with the lightest colour. Wyoming etc
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-u-s-map-where-virus-has-been-confirmed-across-n1124546

That sorta follows the population numbers though. Wyoming has fewer people than the county I live in, and Texas has 254 counties.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I personally feel a lot safer outdoors than being inside with people, I don't know whether the actual heat has any effect on the virus, like you say it may be the way people act in extreme temps that affects the figures....that's something I needn't worry about anyway.

Yeah, it's why people get sick so much in the winter. It's not the temperatures, it's all the proximity to other people. It's why flu season is in the winter. It's not because viruses like cooler weather.

It's also pretty common to hear people talk about "summer colds" in Texas. I've never had one, but they seem prevalent around here.

But I don't stay inside as much as most people.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I bet you would stay inside more if you lived in Manchester.

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Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I bet you would stay inside more if you lived in Manchester.

That's why my ancestors left.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I really dont blame them. Yet another July day too chilly to relax outdoors.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I really dont blame them. Yet another July day too chilly to relax outdoors.

Cold front moved in here too. Only 94 here today.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I really dont blame them. Yet another July day too chilly to relax outdoors.
Cold front moved in here too. Only 94 here today.

Twizzler · Burning up the forum

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I really dont blame them. Yet another July day too chilly to relax outdoors.
Cold front moved in here too. Only 94 here today.

That is hot for us brits, MD.

Its been about 64 here, Arctic for you!

JP · Burning up the forum

Twizzler wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I really dont blame them. Yet another July day too chilly to relax outdoors.
Cold front moved in here too. Only 94 here today.
That is hot for us brits, MD.
Its been about 64 here, Arctic for you!

It sounded a bit chilly for him like he needed to put something on his arms.

Maddog · Go Outside

JP wrote:
Twizzler wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I really dont blame them. Yet another July day too chilly to relax outdoors.
Cold front moved in here too. Only 94 here today.
That is hot for us brits, MD.
Its been about 64 here, Arctic for you!
It sounded a bit chilly for him like he needed to put something on his arms.

At 64, I'm probably wearing a light jacket.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

64f is OK if it's not accompanied by a cold wind or rain.
If it's sunny it can be very pleasant. Sadly the sun has been in short supply here this summer.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
64f is OK if it's not accompanied by a cold wind or rain.
If it's sunny it can be very pleasant. Sadly the sun has been in short supply here this summer.

Yeah, that's a summer day in many parts of Colorado. But if you throw in rain, that makes it miserable.

I despise rain and dont have to deal with it like y'all do.