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JP · Burning up the forum

If Trump refuses to accept the result of the election if he loses - then what happens?

JP · Burning up the forum

Trump must know it's over!!

When a UK PM says that it's time to shut up.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Watching the 'Save America March' with the National Guard deployed and Washington in lockdown because of possible violence.
I am just waiting for it all to kick off especially as Trump will inflame the situation even further with his speech which will be full of the usual endless lies and bullshit.
Why are so many more of the reasonable Republicans not calling him out more and telling him it's over?
They are just so gutless.
Edit - so the violence has begun, fanatical Trump supporters are like some weird and very dangerous religious cult.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 08:52:51 PM

They have.

He's not listening.

JP · Burning up the forum

And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.

John Doe · Still Here!

JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.

How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?

His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.

Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.

I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.

Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.

The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.

Edit.

The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Watching the 'Save America March' with the National Guard deployed and Washington in lockdown because of possible violence.
I am just waiting for it all to kick off especially as Trump will inflame the situation even further with his speech which will be full of the usual endless lies and bullshit.
Why are so many more of the reasonable Republicans not calling him out more and telling him it's over?
They are just so gutless.
Edit - so the violence has begun, fanatical Trump supporters are like some weird and very dangerous religious cult.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 08:52:51 PM
They have.

He's not listening.

They have now but not at the time of my post MD.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Watching the 'Save America March' with the National Guard deployed and Washington in lockdown because of possible violence.
I am just waiting for it all to kick off especially as Trump will inflame the situation even further with his speech which will be full of the usual endless lies and bullshit.
Why are so many more of the reasonable Republicans not calling him out more and telling him it's over?
They are just so gutless.
Edit - so the violence has begun, fanatical Trump supporters are like some weird and very dangerous religious cult.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 08:52:51 PM
They have.

He's not listening.
They have now but not at the time of my post MD.

They have been saying it's over since he lost. It' just that the crazy people get the most attention.

His own Attorney General said it was over several weeks ago.

JP · Burning up the forum

John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM

I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.

Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Watching the 'Save America March' with the National Guard deployed and Washington in lockdown because of possible violence.
I am just waiting for it all to kick off especially as Trump will inflame the situation even further with his speech which will be full of the usual endless lies and bullshit.
Why are so many more of the reasonable Republicans not calling him out more and telling him it's over?
They are just so gutless.
Edit - so the violence has begun, fanatical Trump supporters are like some weird and very dangerous religious cult.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 08:52:51 PM
They have.

He's not listening.
They have now but not at the time of my post MD.
They have been saying it's over since he lost. It' just that the crazy people get the most attention.

His own Attorney General said it was over several weeks ago.

What about those Republicans who were going to refuse to endorse Biden today, do you think they will back down now MD?

Whatever happens I can see more violence ahead, Trump has still been tweeting blatant lies and bullshit conspiracy theories over the last few hours so Twitter has suspended him - but only for 12 hours.

John Doe · Still Here!

Two interesting articles, one from before the election and one from just before the insurrection attempt both stating clearly that Trump is indeed a psychopath.

https://www.salon.com/2020/09/25/a-psychopath-psychologists-call-trump-the-most-psychiatrically-disordered-president-in-history_partner/

https://www.salon.com/2021/01/06/this-could-all-have-been-prevented-how-mental-health-experts-were-silenced/

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Watching the 'Save America March' with the National Guard deployed and Washington in lockdown because of possible violence.
I am just waiting for it all to kick off especially as Trump will inflame the situation even further with his speech which will be full of the usual endless lies and bullshit.
Why are so many more of the reasonable Republicans not calling him out more and telling him it's over?
They are just so gutless.
Edit - so the violence has begun, fanatical Trump supporters are like some weird and very dangerous religious cult.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 08:52:51 PM
They have.

He's not listening.
They have now but not at the time of my post MD.
They have been saying it's over since he lost. It' just that the crazy people get the most attention.

His own Attorney General said it was over several weeks ago.
What about those Republicans who were going to refuse to endorse Biden today, do you think they will back down now MD?
Whatever happens I can see more violence ahead, Trump has still been tweeting blatant lies and bullshit conspiracy theories over the last few hours so Twitter has suspended him - but only for 12 hours.

They are in the minority.

I don't know what they are going to do. In any event, it won't be successful except in tarnishing the Republican brand a little more.

John Doe · Still Here!

JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.

I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.

JP · Burning up the forum

John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.
I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.

Ok I'll take your word for it I'm the first to admit I'm not greatly up on the quite stark differences. That you say are there.

I don't need to be up on American Politics to any large degree at all, like yourself. I don't get into arguments or debate with Americans on American Politics.

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:47:08 PM

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:48:09 PM

John Doe · Still Here!

JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.
I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.
Ok I'll take your word for it I'm the first to admit I'm not greatly up on the quite stark differences. That you say are there.
I don't need to be up on American Politics to any large degree at all, like yourself. I don't get into arguments or debate with Americans on American Politics.

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:47:08 PM

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:48:09 PM

You can't deny he is a psychopath JP, currently he is apparently going to try and give himself and his family presidential pardons before he can be charged with federal offences as soon as his arse is booted out of the White House!

The clown is the most corrupt POTUS and indeed leader of a Democratic country in history.

As for Joe the more I read about him the more I like and he has surrounded himself with excellent people in all departments.

Good for him.

John Doe · Still Here!

Just seen a middle-aged male Trump supporter/thug in tears saying he is the greatest President in history!!!

JP · Burning up the forum

John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.
I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.
Ok I'll take your word for it I'm the first to admit I'm not greatly up on the quite stark differences. That you say are there.
I don't need to be up on American Politics to any large degree at all, like yourself. I don't get into arguments or debate with Americans on American Politics.

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:47:08 PM

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:48:09 PM
You can't deny he is a psychopath JP, currently he is apparently going to try and give himself and his family presidential pardons before he can be charged with federal offences as soon as his arse is booted out of the White House!
The clown is the most corrupt POTUS and indeed leader of a Democratic country in history.
As for Joe the more I read about him the more I like and he has surrounded himself with excellent people in all departments.
Good for him.

I've never praised him as such or denied such things. He is no Boris. Some have tried to compare. But it pretty much begins and ends with the hair.

JP · Burning up the forum

And Biden. Let's see how it goes. It's easy for anyone to talk a good game before actually being in power. Being that person where the buck stops.

Right now it's tougher than ever to be at the top. For obvious reasons. In Europe you can add Brexit to that obvious reason as well. Not many leaders around are having a great time. Macron is another one.

-- Edited by JP on Friday 8th of January 2021 12:00:10 AM

-- Edited by JP on Friday 8th of January 2021 12:00:23 AM

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.
I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.
Ok I'll take your word for it I'm the first to admit I'm not greatly up on the quite stark differences. That you say are there.
I don't need to be up on American Politics to any large degree at all, like yourself. I don't get into arguments or debate with Americans on American Politics.

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:47:08 PM

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:48:09 PM
You can't deny he is a psychopath JP, currently he is apparently going to try and give himself and his family presidential pardons before he can be charged with federal offences as soon as his arse is booted out of the White House!
The clown is the most corrupt POTUS and indeed leader of a Democratic country in history.
As for Joe the more I read about him the more I like and he has surrounded himself with excellent people in all departments.
Good for him.

Joe is a better a human than Trump.

As Jimmy Carter is a much better human than Nixon was.

Jimmy was a failure as a president though. He's still fine man though.

Joe isn't half the man of Jimmy though. Joe's first campaign went down in flames over plagerism (from a Brit no doubt). Joe has lied about how his wife died, and has supported all manner of things I want no part of.

You're weird obsession with Trump has you so biased that you'd support Castro over him.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.
I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.
Ok I'll take your word for it I'm the first to admit I'm not greatly up on the quite stark differences. That you say are there.
I don't need to be up on American Politics to any large degree at all, like yourself. I don't get into arguments or debate with Americans on American Politics.

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:47:08 PM

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:48:09 PM
You can't deny he is a psychopath JP, currently he is apparently going to try and give himself and his family presidential pardons before he can be charged with federal offences as soon as his arse is booted out of the White House!
The clown is the most corrupt POTUS and indeed leader of a Democratic country in history.
As for Joe the more I read about him the more I like and he has surrounded himself with excellent people in all departments.
Good for him.
Joe is a better a human than Trump.

As Jimmy Carter is a much better human than Nixon was.

Jimmy was a failure as a president though. He's still fine man though.

Joe isn't half the man of Jimmy though. Joe's first campaign went down in flames over plagerism (from a Brit no doubt). Joe has lied about how his wife died, and has supported all manner of things I want no part of.

You're weird obsession with Trump has you so biased that you'd support Castro over him.

So you say MD but from all of his previous colleagues both US and abroad on the news I have never heard a bad word said about Biden.

I don't expect you to like anyone much in the White House though as you are a Libertarian who likes neither of the main parties.

I am not obsessed by Trump but I simply cannot believe so many intelligent Americans voted him in and millions still believe he is their Messiah it's like a weird religious cult, perhaps you don't realise what a joke/hate figure the corrupt buffoon is seen outside of the US which is rather an insular country in certain areas?

He has the nuclear codes - as far as I know a functioning psychopath has never been in the White House before plus the damage he has done to environmental protections and wildlife cannot be overstated.

America's reputation has been trashed by the both him and his many enablers (many of whom are finally deserting him to save their own skins).

We have had some highly divisive figures as PM like Thatcher but none of them were literally insane and we have never stormed the Houses of Parliament to try and get an election overturned by armed violence.

As POTUS (often called the powerful position in the world) he also dominates the news over here, I just can't wait for him to be arrested on federal charges when his fat arse is booted out on the 20th.

John Doe · Still Here!

JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
John Doe wrote:
JP wrote:
And Biden I don't like him. I feel going from Trump to Biden is like going from one extreme to another. But what can the voters do, they can obviously only vote for what the choices are.

I think one extreme or another actually quite sums up general life in the World nowadays. Not much goes on in the middle-ground.
How on earth is Joe as 'extreme' as Trump?
His spoke with both calm authority and dignify tonight.
Contrast that with the bastard stoking the flames of violence even after everything that has happened.
I know you are a conservative JP but the difference between Biden and that ludicrous, orange psychopath is like light and day.
Russia and China will be absolutely delighted and Putin will be downing vodka right now laughing his head off.
The Republicans will take decades to recover from Trump and they bloody deserve it because so many went along with the scumbag.
Edit.
The person shot there has now died.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 6th of January 2021 11:05:35 PM
I'm all the good parts of a "conservative". You don't have to embody everything every part of what a specific "label" is supposed to stand for.
Going by what I've read he was generally a moderate. Or at least portraying to be one. And then after winning nomination he's showed signs of shifting more and more to the left.

But the left in America is like middle ground/conservative here.
I agree about labels being too simplistic, I am generally left but not in certain areas.
Ok I'll take your word for it I'm the first to admit I'm not greatly up on the quite stark differences. That you say are there.
I don't need to be up on American Politics to any large degree at all, like yourself. I don't get into arguments or debate with Americans on American Politics.

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:47:08 PM

-- Edited by JP on Thursday 7th of January 2021 08:48:09 PM
You can't deny he is a psychopath JP, currently he is apparently going to try and give himself and his family presidential pardons before he can be charged with federal offences as soon as his arse is booted out of the White House!
The clown is the most corrupt POTUS and indeed leader of a Democratic country in history.
As for Joe the more I read about him the more I like and he has surrounded himself with excellent people in all departments.
Good for him.
I've never praised him as such or denied such things. He is no Boris. Some have tried to compare. But it pretty much begins and ends with the hair.

Boris has plenty of faults but bloody hell in no way is he anything like Trump - no other Western leader is!