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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

John Lennon would be 80 years old today.

Digger · Admin

A great talent. I loved his voice.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

After the Beatles split and John was with Yoko Ona, she influenced his style of writing...sadly.
He also became involved in the peace and anti war movements, and wrote/recorded songs which reflected that.

Imagine was first on his album of the same name in 1971. He then released it as a single in 1975 where it entered into the top 10 reaching No 6 in the singles charts.
After his death the single re-entered the UK chart, reaching number one, where it remained for four weeks in January 1981.

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 9th of October 2020 12:25:02 PM

Digger · Admin

I have a friend who's husband is a dead ringer for Lennon. He could have made a fortune being a look a like.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:

After the Beatles split and John was with Yoko Ona, she influenced his style of writing...sadly.
He also became involved in the peace and anti war movements, and wrote/recorded songs which reflected that.

Imagine was first on his album of the same name in 1971. He then released it as a single in 1975 where it entered into the top 10 reaching No 6 in the singles charts.
After his death the single re-entered the UK chart, reaching number one, where it remained for four weeks in January 1981.

-- Edited by Syl on Friday 9th of October 2020 12:25:02 PM

I think the whole world wondered what on earth her hold on him was...but perhaps he just loved her for who she was, and I do think people judged her terribly for the way she looked rather than who she was inside.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.

I don't think she was to blame, but I don't think she helped keep them together either. Her voice? Like goats!!

Date: Oct 9 2:30 PM, 2020

There was no decline in the Beatles.

The problem was they had become an electronic band and most of their music was impossible to play live without a stack of reel to reel tape decks each one being controlled by an engineer.

They pioneered the use of loop based music a long time before computers arrived.

George Martin was the fifth Beatle and a very important part of the group.

As I say they didn't decline..

Revolver was the start of their venture into electronic and experimental music then we had Sgt Pepper an album that stunned the world at the time.

The pop rock folk and classical world were asking .... how the hell have they created this?

Massive seller globally.

The Let it be album .... massive seller.

Abbey Road takes it further and again stunned the world and was a massive seller.

The double white album featured avant garde rock pop hillbilly country blues ballads electronic and was a massive seller.

Those albums are still selling today and even their pop music albums are still selling today.

The Beatles never go away.

There's a professor who maybe twenty years ago studied their music and concluded the pop songs may well be sung for five hundred years .... five hundred years because they are written like children's poetry .... here we go round the mulberry bush type thing ring a ring a roses and so on.

The Beatles were no doubt unaware of this at the time.

Then there's the people who influenced them .... Chet Atkins The Shadows Chuck Berry Muddy waters Lonnie Donegan Elvis and many more but .... they don't sound anything like any of them because they went into chord progressions that were not used in rock and pop music.

Innovators of immense talent and they never ever go away.

Last year there were life size cutouts of them outside record shops might have been the year before because George Martin's son had permission off Paul and Ringo to remix each track from the original tapes.

The remixing was because originally we mostly didn't have high quality hi fi at home so pauls base had the volume slider down further than you'd have today because the old record players often mono would have buzzed and crackled with a lot of base and meade the mix sound very muddy and Ringo's drums suffered the same but remixed you get to hear what it sounded like when they were recording the tuff.

I always some Beatles tracks in the motor for the kids to sing along to and now the grandkids.

The Beatles even wrote for children purposely I don't know any other top band who ever did that.

Three year old granddaughters favourite is .... All together now ...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73lj5qJbrms

All Together Now (Remastered 2009)

Date: Oct 9 2:39 PM, 2020

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.
I don't think she was to blame, but I don't think she helped keep them together either. Her voice? Like goats!!

i FORGOT i THINK TO PUT MY ANONROLLUP on my previous post about how the Beatles didn't decline.

Yoko Ono was a very successful artist in her own right when John met her.

Here's a truly great pop tune by her and Lennon and this is the last time John played guitar .... he was murdered after recording this some say it should have been her.

There's speculation that his murder was by the CIA based on the fact that he was taking on the united fruit company because of their dreadful treatment of immigrant workers.

Lennon was so big the whole world would have listened and voiced their opinions.

The United Fruit Company had countries invaded at the start of the 20th century .... that's how powerful they were.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.

A good woman that cares about you is sort of a problem for a rock and roll band. I was reading about Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli and the problems with the band that her marriage to Eddie caused.

Women are trying to keep their men alive and sort of sober. They expect time away from the band. So many of these band members have put music, their craft and the lifestyle first for so long, that a serious relationship threatens all of that.

Yoko may have been a grounding and stabilizing force for John, which at the same time could be disruptive for the band and his music.

In any event, it's a shame we didnt get to see his life play out.

Digger · Admin

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.
A good woman that cares about you is sort of a problem for a rock and roll band. I was reading about Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli and the problems with the band that her marriage to Eddie caused.

Women are trying to keep their men alive and sort of sober. They expect time away from the band. So many of these band members have put music, their craft and the lifestyle first for so long, that a serious relationship threatens all of that.

Yoko may have been a grounding and stabilizing force for John, which at the same time could be disruptive for the band and his music.
In any event, it's a shame we didnt get to see his life play out.

I read he was a cheating ratbag and in the end she had to supply women for him. Also, the way he treated his first wife and child was abysmal. He could be a right shit.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.
A good woman that cares about you is sort of a problem for a rock and roll band. I was reading about Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli and the problems with the band that her marriage to Eddie caused.

Women are trying to keep their men alive and sort of sober. They expect time away from the band. So many of these band members have put music, their craft and the lifestyle first for so long, that a serious relationship threatens all of that.

Yoko may have been a grounding and stabilizing force for John, which at the same time could be disruptive for the band and his music.
In any event, it's a shame we didnt get to see his life play out.

It is a shame, he was so talented and had so much more to give.

Times were different back then, for a start no pop star could come out as openly gay, they even denied having girlfriends much less wives.

I think Cynthia Lennon and her child to John was shoved in the background for years so John could be thought of as young and single...so still available.

Date: Oct 9 6:21 PM, 2020

He produced some haunting stuff of which this is one

Date: Oct 9 6:32 PM, 2020

Anonymousrollup wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.
I don't think she was to blame, but I don't think she helped keep them together either. Her voice? Like goats!!

i FORGOT i THINK TO PUT MY ANONROLLUP on my previous post about how the Beatles didn't decline.
Yoko Ono was a very successful artist in her own right when John met her.
Here's a truly great pop tune by her and Lennon and this is the last time John played guitar .... he was murdered after recording this some say it should have been her.
There's speculation that his murder was by the CIA based on the fact that he was taking on the united fruit company because of their dreadful treatment of immigrant workers.
Lennon was so big the whole world would have listened and voiced their opinions.
The United Fruit Company had countries invaded at the start of the 20th century .... that's how powerful they were.

John Lennon's last day.

John Doe · Still Here!

Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.
A good woman that cares about you is sort of a problem for a rock and roll band. I was reading about Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli and the problems with the band that her marriage to Eddie caused.

Women are trying to keep their men alive and sort of sober. They expect time away from the band. So many of these band members have put music, their craft and the lifestyle first for so long, that a serious relationship threatens all of that.

Yoko may have been a grounding and stabilizing force for John, which at the same time could be disruptive for the band and his music.
In any event, it's a shame we didnt get to see his life play out.
I read he was a cheating ratbag and in the end she had to supply women for him. Also, the way he treated his first wife and child was abysmal. He could be a right shit.

From what I have read of him he was an utter bastard, a real scumbag but like many huge talents I suppose you have to separate what that were as a person and what they contributed as an artist.

George was the nicest bloke and the Traveling Wilburys were great.

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

I think they also judged her for the decline of the Beatles....plus her appalling singing voice that she insisted inflicting on us when she was in his band.
A good woman that cares about you is sort of a problem for a rock and roll band. I was reading about Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli and the problems with the band that her marriage to Eddie caused.

Women are trying to keep their men alive and sort of sober. They expect time away from the band. So many of these band members have put music, their craft and the lifestyle first for so long, that a serious relationship threatens all of that.

Yoko may have been a grounding and stabilizing force for John, which at the same time could be disruptive for the band and his music.
In any event, it's a shame we didnt get to see his life play out.
I read he was a cheating ratbag and in the end she had to supply women for him. Also, the way he treated his first wife and child was abysmal. He could be a right shit.

Maybe she needed more time to whip him into shape?

I'll be honest, I was never enough into the Beatles to know much about their personal lives.

But it seems like Ringo was the only one I would want to have a few beers with.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Ringo was everyones least favourite Beatle, but he married a Bond girl, branched out into acting, narrating and writing, carried on singing, and at 80 is still working.
Not bad for a sickly little kid from Liverpool who many dubbed the luckiest man in the UK.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Ringo was everyones least favourite Beatle, but he married a Bond girl, branched out into acting, narrating and writing, carried on singing, and at 80 is still working.
Not bad for a sickly little kid from Liverpool who many dubbed the luckiest man in the UK.

That's why he was my favorite. He didn't take himself seriously and had fun.

He even comes to Texas and plays a little.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Ringo was everyones least favourite Beatle, but he married a Bond girl, branched out into acting, narrating and writing, carried on singing, and at 80 is still working.
Not bad for a sickly little kid from Liverpool who many dubbed the luckiest man in the UK.

That's why he was my favorite. He didn't take himself seriously and had fun.

He even comes to Texas and plays a little.

I like him a lot as well, him and George were/are good blokes - Paul strikes me as a very cold person and it did not take him very long to find other women after the 'love of his life' passed away in pain to share his bed did it?

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 10th of October 2020 04:01:32 AM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Paul doesn't strike me as a cold person. He has done a lot for various charities but like George Micheal, he doesn't go on about it publicly all the time.
He waited 4 years after Lynda died before he married Mills, did you expect him to become a monk?

I'm sure like in any loving marriage, the partner who dies wants happiness for the one left behind, after a glitch with Heather Mulls, he seems to have found love again.