John Doe wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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JD, you went too far, and I'm sure you have got the message.

Anons....as the message has been now 'got', no point in repeating yourselves.

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Yeah it was a bit much, I was a bit drunk so I apologise to you both.

Anons jumping on the get JD bandwagon can piss off though.

-- Edited by John Doe on Monday 14th of December 2020 07:34:13 PM

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 See, I like that. It's refreshing for a forum person to say something to the effect "after further consideration and in light of  slightly altered state, I went a bit too far"

 

Then we can all hug and sing Kum bai yah, however you spell it. 

(((group hug)))

Well, it IS the festive season. x

Syl wrote:

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Lets move on.

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 Yeah, let's stir up a hornet's nest with these comments regarding the all new and woke Anne Boleyn.

 

I'm not sure that Anne Boleyn was a woman of colour. All I know for sure is that's it's 2020 & if you read the revised history books on the Tudors, the divorce from Rome happened because the Pope refused to accept Henry's pronouns

 

Diane Abbot to play the Intelligent Queen Elizabeth 1st. Can you imagine her telling the English people that there are 10 million Spanish Galleons in the English Channel ready to invade the country? And then finding out that there are no soldiers and sailors to defend the country because she has defunded the military! Wow, I can't wait to see this epic!

 

So is Elizabeth 1st, our greatest Monarch, going to be the same colour?

Yup, and gender-fluid with a limp.

 

Cultural appropriation? If they ever make a film about Michelle Obama, I want Harry Stiles to portray her to challenge convention!

Brilliant! Next we could have Matt Lucas play Malcolm X, Jennifer Aniston in a biopic of Whoopi Goldberg, and Dame Judi Dench playing Pocahontas. Wins all round!

FFS! Next will they play a man as the queen in the next version of the crown? Genderless children, vegans killing butchers...and the list goes on...

Maybe Jackie Chan could play Henry VIII and have fight scenes with them all with the abilities of marshal arts experts? Anne Boleyn will of course escape and live her life with Christopher Columbus played by Naomi Campbell as we may as well question if he was in fact a he or even Italian.

Will she take the knee at the execution block?

Historical accuracy is paramount BUT having said that .... if they did a biopic on Neslon Manfella and he was played by one legged, overweight vertically challenged Irish tran with Tourette's I would probably watch it.

Digger wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Lets move on.

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 Yeah, let's stir up a hornet's nest with these comments regarding the all new and woke Anne Boleyn.

 

I'm not sure that Anne Boleyn was a woman of colour. All I know for sure is that's it's 2020 & if you read the revised history books on the Tudors, the divorce from Rome happened because the Pope refused to accept Henry's pronouns

 

Diane Abbot to play the Intelligent Queen Elizabeth 1st. Can you imagine her telling the English people that there are 10 million Spanish Galleons in the English Channel ready to invade the country? And then finding out that there are no soldiers and sailors to defend the country because she has defunded the military! Wow, I can't wait to see this epic!

 

So is Elizabeth 1st, our greatest Monarch, going to be the same colour?

Yup, and gender-fluid with a limp.

 

Cultural appropriation? If they ever make a film about Michelle Obama, I want Harry Stiles to portray her to challenge convention!

 

Brilliant! Next we could have Matt Lucas play Malcolm X, Jennifer Aniston in a biopic of Whoopi Goldberg, and Dame Judi Dench playing Pocahontas. Wins all round!

 

FFS! Next will they play a man as the queen in the next version of the crown? Genderless children, vegans killing butchers...and the list goes on...

 

Maybe Jackie Chan could play Henry VIII and have fight scenes with them all with the abilities of marshal arts experts? Anne Boleyn will of course escape and live her life with Christopher Columbus played by Naomi Campbell as we may as well question if he was in fact a he or even Italian.

Will she take the knee at the execution block?

 

Historical accuracy is paramount BUT having said that .... if they did a biopic on Neslon Manfella and he was played by one legged, overweight vertically challenged Irish tran with Tourette's I would probably watch it.

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 That was very good, especially that last sentence.  

John Doe wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Although to be fair, Three girls, which was a factual drama of the abuse carried out in Rochdale was a BBC programme.

 

 

Is this the most harrowing drama ever shown on the BBC? Horrified viewers are forced to switch off Rochdale child abuse series Three Girls - while others say it should be screened in SCHOOLS

• Three Girls is a three-part dramatisation of the Rochdale child abuse scandal
• The widespread grooming and assault came to light in 2012 after a social worker blew the whistle on a cover-up
• But viewers said the episode was hard to watch as girls were beaten and raped
• Some turned off, but others thought the drama should be shown in schools 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4513844/Viewers-turn-BBC-Rochdale-child-abuse-Three-Girls.html

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I presume drama and the news section are separate entities in the BBC Syl.

Otherwise why would their news reports continue to downplay what is still going on and never mention the fact that the gangs are Muslims of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origins?

Are they afraid of being accused of so called 'Islamophobia'?

It baffles me.

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 The majority of child sexual abuse gangs are made up of white men under the age of 30, an official paper has said.

The report, which covers England, Scotland and Wales and summarises a range of studies on the issue of group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE), also known as grooming gangs, said there was not enough evidence to conclude that child sexual abuse gangs were disproportionately made up of Asian offenders.

 

High-profile cases including in Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford have involved groups of men of mainly Pakistani ethnicity, fuelling a perception that it is an “Asian problem”.

As a result “Asian grooming gangs” have become a cause celebre for the far right, with a number of high-profile figures mounting campaigns across the country.

Nazir Afzal, the former chief crown prosecutor in the north-west, who brought prosecutions over the Rochdale grooming gangs, welcomed the report. “It confirms that white men remain the most common offenders, which is something rarely mentioned by rightwing commentators,” he said.

“However, it is not shy in reflecting that south Asian and British Pakistani men are disproportionately found in high-profile cases.

 

Anonymous wrote:

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John Doe wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Although to be fair, Three girls, which was a factual drama of the abuse carried out in Rochdale was a BBC programme.

 

 

Is this the most harrowing drama ever shown on the BBC? Horrified viewers are forced to switch off Rochdale child abuse series Three Girls - while others say it should be screened in SCHOOLS

• Three Girls is a three-part dramatisation of the Rochdale child abuse scandal
• The widespread grooming and assault came to light in 2012 after a social worker blew the whistle on a cover-up
• But viewers said the episode was hard to watch as girls were beaten and raped
• Some turned off, but others thought the drama should be shown in schools 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4513844/Viewers-turn-BBC-Rochdale-child-abuse-Three-Girls.html

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I presume drama and the news section are separate entities in the BBC Syl.

Otherwise why would their news reports continue to downplay what is still going on and never mention the fact that the gangs are Muslims of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origins?

Are they afraid of being accused of so called 'Islamophobia'?

It baffles me.

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 The majority of child sexual abuse gangs are made up of white men under the age of 30, an official paper has said.

The report, which covers England, Scotland and Wales and summarises a range of studies on the issue of group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE), also known as grooming gangs, said there was not enough evidence to conclude that child sexual abuse gangs were disproportionately made up of Asian offenders.

 

High-profile cases including in Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford have involved groups of men of mainly Pakistani ethnicity, fuelling a perception that it is an “Asian problem”.

As a result “Asian grooming gangs” have become a cause celebre for the far right, with a number of high-profile figures mounting campaigns across the country.

Nazir Afzal, the former chief crown prosecutor in the north-west, who brought prosecutions over the Rochdale grooming gangs, welcomed the report. “It confirms that white men remain the most common offenders, which is something rarely mentioned by rightwing commentators,” he said.

“However, it is not shy in reflecting that south Asian and British Pakistani men are disproportionately found in high-profile cases.

 

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 Nazir Afzal speaks out honestly, one of the few high profile Muslims who doesn't shy away from facing facts.

Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford are just three of the many towns and cities the mostly Pakistani, Muslim gangs have operated, been charged and found guilty of grooming and raping young white girls.

This list was compiled several years ago, since then other similar gangs all around the country have been found guilty of the same. It still goes on.

SKIPTON
ROTHERHAM
SHEFFIELD
BLACKPOOL
OXFORD
HALIFAX
BRADFORD
IPSWICH
LONDON
TELFORD
PRESTON
DERBY
TORBAY
BRISTOL
BANBURY
CHESHAM
BARKING
BIRMINGHAM
BLACKBURN
ROCHDALE
LEEDS
STOCKPORT
AYLESBURY
YEOVIL
NEWCASTLE
BURTON
ACCRINGTON
ORMSKIRK
KEIGHLEY
MANCHESTER
OLDHAM
PETERBOROUGH
DEWSBURY
LITTLEHAMPTON
MIDDLESBOROUGH
SLOUGH.

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In answer to the Pakistani Muslim grooming gang defenders, who often like to point out that there are more white paedophile gangs in this  country than 'Asian'......though the blanket term Asian is very misleading in itself, 

the table below may explain why that is. 

 

Taken from the Office for National Statistics site.

Compiled in August 2018.

 

 

Table 1 Religion in Great Britain


1 No Religion 23,725,080
2 Christian (all denominations) 33,111,246
3 Budhist 263,398
4 Hindu 1,021,449
5 Jewish 336,965
6 Muslim 3,372,966
7 Sikh 404,891
8 Any Other Religion 1,028,513

Total 63,264,508
Missing 2,023,914

Total 65,288,422

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Exactly.

Trying to deflect from the facts is a tactic often seen on forums.

 

The leader of a sex gang that targeted 100 girls as young as 13 has been released from jail after serving just eight years of a 26-year sentence. 

Ahdel Ali, 32, and his brother Mubarak lead the gang of seven men, which operated in Telford, Shropshire. 

The town was a hub of abuse which saw up to 1,000 girls, some as young as 11, fall victim to sex gangs over a four-decade period.

 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9066957/amp/Leader-Telford-sex-gang-targeted-100-girls-released-jail-eight-years.html?__twitter_impression=true

John Doe wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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The leader of a sex gang that targeted 100 girls as young as 13 has been released from jail after serving just eight years of a 26-year sentence. 

Ahdel Ali, 32, and his brother Mubarak lead the gang of seven men, which operated in Telford, Shropshire. 

The town was a hub of abuse which saw up to 1,000 girls, some as young as 11, fall victim to sex gangs over a four-decade period.

 

 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9066957/amp/Leader-Telford-sex-gang-targeted-100-girls-released-jail-eight-years.html?__twitter_impression=true

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What a farce - I thought that sex offenders and child rapists had to serve at least half their sentences?

That's around 13 victims lives destroyed for every year this sick bastard served.

The parole board must have been blind, deaf and dumb to think he won't do it again if he thinks he can get away with it.

Perhaps they were frightened of being accused of Islamophobia? 

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 19th of December 2020 12:01:45 AM

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 The law was supposedly tightened up in 2015 ....which meant that only under special circumstances could a child rapist be released before half the term was served.

 

This was taken from GOV.UK website 5 years ago.