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John Doe · Still Here!

RE: How Dallas Elections Really Work

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories. That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.

Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories.   That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.
Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.

China has it's own reasons for wanting to reduce it's carbon footprint (renewable energy is dropping in price to produce exponentially for a start), I don't know why you keep going on about China this discussion is about the US election and how Biden will be better for the US and the world than Trump.

I have never said he could order the Chinese to do anything but his plans to reduce America's carbon footprint are very ambitious.

Europe is trying the UK is trying, better to try than do nothing at all.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories.   That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.
Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.
China has it's own reasons for wanting to reduce it's carbon footprint (renewable energy is dropping in price to produce exponentially for a start), I don't know why you keep going on about China this discussion is about the US election and how Biden will be better for the US and the world than Trump.
I have never said he could order the Chinese to do anything but his plans to reduce America's carbon footprint are very ambitious.
Europe is trying the UK is trying, better to try than do nothing at all.

Every country has there own reason for doing what they want.

How is he going to reduce US emissions?

Tax the fuck out of us?

Maddog · Go Outside

WASHINGTON — Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s $2 trillion plan to fight global warming is the most ambitious climate policy proposed by a leading presidential candidate, a political lightning rod spotlighted on Thursday night when the Democratic nominee acknowledged during a debate that it would “transition” the country “from the oil industry.”

But no one knows better than Mr. Biden, the former vice president, that it almost surely will not be enacted, even if his party secures the White House and the Senate. Thirty-six years in the Senate and the searing experience of watching the Obama administration’s less ambitious climate plan die a decade ago have taught him the art of the possible.

www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/climate/biden-climate-change.html

For starters, this will never get passed. It's just bullshit politicians babble when they are running and the naive soak it up.

Second, where does the 2 trillion come from.

Politicians talk shit knowing they have no way of paying for their programs.

-- Edited by Maddog on Sunday 8th of November 2020 08:07:54 PM

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
WASHINGTON — Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s $2 trillion plan to fight global warming is the most ambitious climate policy proposed by a leading presidential candidate, a political lightning rod spotlighted on Thursday night when the Democratic nominee acknowledged during a debate that it would “transition” the country “from the oil industry.”

But no one knows better than Mr. Biden, the former vice president, that it almost surely will not be enacted, even if his party secures the White House and the Senate. Thirty-six years in the Senate and the searing experience of watching the Obama administration’s less ambitious climate plan die a decade ago have taught him the art of the possible.

www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/climate/biden-climate-change.html

For starters, this will never get passed. It's just bullshit politicians babble when they are running and the naive soak it up.

Second, where does the 2 trillion come from.

Politicians talk shit knowing they have no way of paying for their programs.

-- Edited by Maddog on Sunday 8th of November 2020 08:07:54 PM

So it will be their fault not his.

I remember Obama in tears after yet another school massacre and he could not get any gun control laws passed either but at least he tried.

The NRA lobby is just too powerful and nothing will ever be done.

Anyway fish and chips for tea now, not sure how popular that is in Texas MD?

-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 8th of November 2020 08:15:02 PM

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
WASHINGTON — Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s $2 trillion plan to fight global warming is the most ambitious climate policy proposed by a leading presidential candidate, a political lightning rod spotlighted on Thursday night when the Democratic nominee acknowledged during a debate that it would “transition” the country “from the oil industry.”

But no one knows better than Mr. Biden, the former vice president, that it almost surely will not be enacted, even if his party secures the White House and the Senate. Thirty-six years in the Senate and the searing experience of watching the Obama administration’s less ambitious climate plan die a decade ago have taught him the art of the possible.

www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/climate/biden-climate-change.html

For starters, this will never get passed. It's just bullshit politicians babble when they are running and the naive soak it up.

Second, where does the 2 trillion come from.

Politicians talk shit knowing they have no way of paying for their programs.

-- Edited by Maddog on Sunday 8th of November 2020 08:07:54 PM
So it will be their fault not his.
I remember Obama in tears after yet another school massacre and he could not get any gun control laws passed either but at least he tried.

So it won't happen. Even though he told you it would, and you believed it.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
WASHINGTON — Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s $2 trillion plan to fight global warming is the most ambitious climate policy proposed by a leading presidential candidate, a political lightning rod spotlighted on Thursday night when the Democratic nominee acknowledged during a debate that it would “transition” the country “from the oil industry.”

But no one knows better than Mr. Biden, the former vice president, that it almost surely will not be enacted, even if his party secures the White House and the Senate. Thirty-six years in the Senate and the searing experience of watching the Obama administration’s less ambitious climate plan die a decade ago have taught him the art of the possible.

www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/climate/biden-climate-change.html

For starters, this will never get passed. It's just bullshit politicians babble when they are running and the naive soak it up.

Second, where does the 2 trillion come from.

Politicians talk shit knowing they have no way of paying for their programs.

-- Edited by Maddog on Sunday 8th of November 2020 08:07:54 PM
So it will be their fault not his.
I remember Obama in tears after yet another school massacre and he could not get any gun control laws passed either but at least he tried.
So it won't happen. Even though he told you it would, and you believed it.

He will at least try that's the point - he is not in willful denial like Trump (who actually knows how dire the situation is but simply does not give a shit about anyone but himself), we will see - perhaps huge parts of the country burning in record wildfires this year will open a few minds.

But probably not.

Anyway fish and chips for me now.

-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 8th of November 2020 08:20:52 PM

JP · Burning up the forum

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories.   That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.
Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.
Under Biden your covid infection and death levels will dramatically drop in a matter of days. And terrorism will never visit your shores under his watch. Racism will soon be a thing of dim and distant past as well. :D

I think some people out there really do believe all of the above.

John Doe · Still Here!

JP wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories.   That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.
Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.
Under Biden your covid infection and death levels will dramatically drop in a matter of days. And terrorism will never visit your shores under his watch. Racism will soon be a thing of dim and distant past as well. :D
I think some people out there really do believe all of the above.

I don't but at least he will take more notice of people like Fauci and not ridicule people for wearing masks or social distancing like Trump.

Or suggesting people inject themselves with bleach which some fools actually did!

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-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 8th of November 2020 09:34:46 PM

Maddog · Go Outside

JP wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories.   That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.
Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.
Under Biden your covid infection and death levels will dramatically drop in a matter of days. And terrorism will never visit your shores under his watch. Racism will soon be a thing of dim and distant past as well. :D
I think some people out there really do believe all of the above.

Yeah, the world is lucky to have Biden in charge. He's like a savior.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
JP wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
... the endless conspiracy theories you spout are getting really boring on here now.
Trump lost - deal with it.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 07:38:41 PM
I have mentioned no conspiracy theories.   That you "see" conspiracy theory in what I wrote is something to do with you and not me. That you tell me I have to "deal with it" also tells me something about you and not me. I am not American, it has no impact on me apart from gaining insight into society and people. Does it impact on you in anyway? You do seem to have become emotionally invested in all of this judging by your comments and this seems to affect you in the way you perceive others and their comments. Yet if we were talking about science or quantum mechanics or the origins of the universe I am sure your approach would switch into a different mode.
How do I know who you are or where you come from?
You are posting under anonymity and I am not psychic.
I care about the environment and Climate Change so yes it does impact me and the rest of the world for that matter who the leader of the most powerful country on the planet is.

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 7th of November 2020 11:48:39 PM
No it doesn't. The rest of the world will do whatever it wants. They might take our money, then do whatever is best for them. But make no mistake about these agreements. They are a joke. Like the useless nations and the WHO.

If people actually listened to us, there would be peace throughout the world. But they don't, and there isn't.
There will never be peace - that's the nature of the beast and the US has caused plenty of trouble in the past.
America ignoring/denying the problem of climate change will not make it go away, at least Joe will try to do something.
Sure he will. He will sternly tell China to stop burning coal. And they will of course listen to him.
Under Biden your covid infection and death levels will dramatically drop in a matter of days. And terrorism will never visit your shores under his watch. Racism will soon be a thing of dim and distant past as well. :D
I think some people out there really do believe all of the above.

Yeah, the world is lucky to have Biden in charge. He's like a savior.

No, he is not a saviour MD.

Just a helluva lot better than Trump for the world and the US regardless of what he may do over Brexit here - not that that is very hard, Lincoln would be a better POTUS right now than the orange narcissist and he has been dead for 155 years.

I expect Joe and Boris will sort things out eventually as our countries share far too much history together to be at serious loggerheads for long.

-- Edited by John Doe on Monday 9th of November 2020 12:09:50 AM

Date: Nov 9 4:48 AM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
I don't but at least he will take more notice of people like Fauci and not ridicule people for wearing masks or social distancing like Trump.
Or suggesting people inject themselves with bleach which some fools actually did!

-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 8th of November 2020 09:34:46 PM

This is quite interesting it's how Trump and the Dems have handled the pandemic.

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
I don't but at least he will take more notice of people like Fauci and not ridicule people for wearing masks or social distancing like Trump.
Or suggesting people inject themselves with bleach which some fools actually did!

-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 8th of November 2020 09:34:46 PM

This is quite interesting it's how Trump and the Dems have handled the pandemic.

I may have to watch that later. Watched a few minutes. From what I saw, it points out a lot of hypocrisy.

I'm not interested in what people say, as much as I am with results. I dont look to leaders to make me feel good.

In the end, Covid results are pretty similar whether your leader's last name is Trump, Johnson or Macron.

JP · Burning up the forum

Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
I don't but at least he will take more notice of people like Fauci and not ridicule people for wearing masks or social distancing like Trump.
Or suggesting people inject themselves with bleach which some fools actually did!

-- Edited by John Doe on Sunday 8th of November 2020 09:34:46 PM

This is quite interesting it's how Trump and the Dems have handled the pandemic.

I may have to watch that later. Watched a few minutes. From what I saw, it points out a lot of hypocrisy.

I'm not interested in what people say, as much as I am with results. I dont look to leaders to make me feel good.

In the end, Covid results are pretty similar whether your leader's last name is Trump, Johnson or Macron.

IF we are to proportion blame for covid deaths pretty much directly towards a leader. The Spanish leader would be another rung up on the terrible leader list ladder compared to those that you mention. Spain's death per capita figure there is now quite a gap between Spain and the Countries you mentioned. They are up at 840.

A lot of this really is down to the people in given Countries, in given areas. A press conference has happened here today. One member of the press pointed out that London figures are dropping. The full national lockdown is only a few days old so obviously they were dropping before the full national lockdown came into play. Boris said North East figures has been dropping, they must also have been dropping already anyway also. Good effort by the people in areas brings good results.

A prime example is local to me. A local area here that a week or two back had a figure of 170 per 100,000. Now it's down to just over 60. Everyone collectively should look at themselves and what they do, or in some cases don't do. How they behave. And concentrate most of their effort right there. That's how you really improve things.

Date: Nov 10 4:59 AM, 2020

Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I may have to watch that later. Watched a few minutes. From what I saw, it points out a lot of hypocrisy.

I'm not interested in what people say, as much as I am with results. I dont look to leaders to make me feel good.

In the end, Covid results are pretty similar whether your leader's last name is Trump, Johnson or Macron.

He has a few Trump V Biden Racism, military, mocking the disabled. all of it twisted beyond recognition by the media

I'm not sure why the world looks at Trump's results and points it out as a failure ( even more so considering most is down to the governors and mayors than him) it's a huge country and most of the deaths were in democratic states.

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM

Date: Nov 10 11:14 AM, 2020

wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM

Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?

Date: Nov 10 5:04 PM, 2020

Hi Maddog, have you heard of the following news: "The woman who said Trump would never be president and then went on a crusade to impeach him, Nancy Pelosi's Chief of Staff Is Chief Executive at Dominion Voting Ballet Counting Systems and Feinstein's Husband a Major Shareholder."

It is being claimed that numerous glitches in this Counting System switched votes from Republican to Democrat on mass.

The dangers of Big Tech being in control should be a worry for everybody. This is separate to the various other forms of voter fraud (throwing out ballots, filling in ballots, pre-dating post marks, ballot harvesting).

Date: Nov 10 5:15 PM, 2020

Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?

Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?
Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.

Do you think his attitudes, cheap insults about the dead, childish bullying behaviour and endless outright lies are befitting of a grown man let alone the POTUS?

He has done such thing live on national TV many, many times or did the media force him to behave like that?

You are unbelievable.

He is a psychopathic narcissist will simply will not accept he has lost.

At one of his rallies he said you would not hear about COVID-19 after November 4th as if it was some big fraud, well half his team have fucking had it and infections and deaths continue to soar to record levels in the US.

Or did you believe him about that as well?

Maybe he should inject some bleach and do everyone a favour.

-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 07:10:25 PM