ChaoticMusings

Date: Nov 10 7:51 PM, 2020

RE: How Dallas Elections Really Work

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?
Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.
Do you think his attitudes, cheap insults about the dead, childish bullying behaviour and endless outright lies are befitting of a grown man let alone the POTUS?
He has done such thing live on national TV many, many times or did the media force him to behave like that?
You are unbelievable.
He is a psychopathic narcissist will simply will not accept he has lost.
At one of his rallies he said you would not hear about COVID-19 after November 4th as if it was some big fraud, well half his team have fucking had it and infections and deaths continue to soar to record levels in the US.
Or did you believe him about that as well?
Maybe he should inject some bleach and do everyone a favour.

-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 07:10:25 PM

He said "ignoring Donald Trump" and you went off on a rant about Donald Trump.

It's very difficult to have a mature conversation with you on this topic.

Did some kid named Donald torment you as a child?

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Hi Maddog, have you heard of the following news: "The woman who said Trump would never be president and then went on a crusade to impeach him, Nancy Pelosi's Chief of Staff Is Chief Executive at Dominion Voting Ballet Counting Systems and Feinstein's Husband a Major Shareholder."
It is being claimed that numerous glitches in this Counting System switched votes from Republican to Democrat on mass.
The dangers of Big Tech being in control should be a worry for everybody. This is separate to the various other forms of voter fraud (throwing out ballots, filling in ballots, pre-dating post marks, ballot harvesting).

I don't know about the switching. This thread was about vote harvesting which is the only problem I am aware of.

I know Texas uses a paper ballot that is tabulated by a machine, so there there is actually paper for a recount. I think most states do the same. There is a paper trail that way and hacking the systems can be caught (assuming people want to catch the hackers).

Vote harvesting is very difficult to determine. But it's pretty small scale, but if you could organize a few hundred people, to harvest a few hundred votes in several major cities in close elections.............

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?
Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.
Do you think his attitudes, cheap insults about the dead, childish bullying behaviour and endless outright lies are befitting of a grown man let alone the POTUS?
He has done such thing live on national TV many, many times or did the media force him to behave like that?
You are unbelievable.
He is a psychopathic narcissist will simply will not accept he has lost.
At one of his rallies he said you would not hear about COVID-19 after November 4th as if it was some big fraud, well half his team have fucking had it and infections and deaths continue to soar to record levels in the US.
Or did you believe him about that as well?
Maybe he should inject some bleach and do everyone a favour.

-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 07:10:25 PM
He said "ignoring Donald Trump" and you went off on a rant about Donald Trump.

It's very difficult to have a mature conversation with you on this topic.

Did some kid named Donald torment you as a child?

Yeah a big fat orange one with tiny hands MD.

I missed the ignore bit at the beginning because I was briefly distracted and also I am tired of all anonymous posters blaming the media for blackening his name when he has done an absolutely wonderful public job of doing that himself.

As for the media and to what the other poster asked I make up my own mind about a topic regardless of what they say and always have done.

-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 11th of November 2020 01:32:41 AM

Date: Nov 11 6:35 AM, 2020

Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Hi Maddog, have you heard of the following news: "The woman who said Trump would never be president and then went on a crusade to impeach him, Nancy Pelosi's Chief of Staff Is Chief Executive at Dominion Voting Ballet Counting Systems and Feinstein's Husband a Major Shareholder."
It is being claimed that numerous glitches in this Counting System switched votes from Republican to Democrat on mass.
The dangers of Big Tech being in control should be a worry for everybody. This is separate to the various other forms of voter fraud (throwing out ballots, filling in ballots, pre-dating post marks, ballot harvesting).
I don't know about the switching. This thread was about vote harvesting which is the only problem I am aware of.

I know Texas uses a paper ballot that is tabulated by a machine, so there there is actually paper for a recount. I think most states do the same. There is a paper trail that way and hacking the systems can be caught (assuming people want to catch the hackers).

Vote harvesting is very difficult to determine. But it's pretty small scale, but if you could organize a few hundred people, to harvest a few hundred votes in several major cities in close elections.............

This was the switch caught live on CNN I did have a simpler link but only the tube ones seem to work here for me at the moment.

Date: Nov 11 6:40 AM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?
Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.
Do you think his attitudes, cheap insults about the dead, childish bullying behaviour and endless outright lies are befitting of a grown man let alone the POTUS?
He has done such thing live on national TV many, many times or did the media force him to behave like that?
You are unbelievable.
He is a psychopathic narcissist will simply will not accept he has lost.
At one of his rallies he said you would not hear about COVID-19 after November 4th as if it was some big fraud, well half his team have fucking had it and infections and deaths continue to soar to record levels in the US.
Or did you believe him about that as well?
Maybe he should inject some bleach and do everyone a favour.

-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 07:10:25 PM

Typical brainwashed response. He didn't say that it was media who said he did.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Date: Nov 11 1:40 PM, 2020

Syl wrote:

Hi Syl, the title and the description: President Trump claims injecting people with disinfectant could treat coronavirus
US President Donald Trump has claimed "emerging" research suggests disinfectants and sunlight might be able to used as treatments and diminish the threat of the new coronavirus, triggering a backlash from medical experts.

gives a false impression of what President Trump said. He was contingent in what he said. He said there were a number of avenues of research that either had or hadn't been explored and that medics would be needed to explore them and that some of the things he had heard seemed promising. That is the nature of research.

Chemicals are injected into the body as forms of treatment, some of these can be described as bleaches but these are not domestic bleach formulations, they are oxidants and when targeted can be used to deactivate and kill certain bugs. So for example oxygen itself is a bleach that is deadly to many types of bugs. Similarly light is used in various forms of medical treatments.

There was absolutely nothing medically wrong with what he said. You have to take a step towards misinterpreting what he said in order to claim that what he said was irresponsible.

So what we have to do next is to consider the journalism. Is this good journalism or is it an example of narrative setting? Narrative setting is used in many contexts ranging from advertising to political propaganda. It is a technique to prime people into thinking in certain ways, a form of brainwashing for those without the knowledge or the experience to assess for themselves what is happening.

Date: Nov 11 3:41 PM, 2020

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Hi Syl, the title and the description: President Trump claims injecting people with disinfectant could treat coronavirus
US President Donald Trump has claimed "emerging" research suggests disinfectants and sunlight might be able to used as treatments and diminish the threat of the new coronavirus, triggering a backlash from medical experts.
gives a false impression of what President Trump said. He was contingent in what he said. He said there were a number of avenues of research that either had or hadn't been explored and that medics would be needed to explore them and that some of the things he had heard seemed promising. That is the nature of research.
Chemicals are injected into the body as forms of treatment, some of these can be described as bleaches but these are not domestic bleach formulations, they are oxidants and when targeted can be used to deactivate and kill certain bugs. So for example oxygen itself is a bleach that is deadly to many types of bugs. Similarly light is used in various forms of medical treatments.
There was absolutely nothing medically wrong with what he said. You have to take a step towards misinterpreting what he said in order to claim that what he said was irresponsible.
So what we have to do next is to consider the journalism. Is this good journalism or is it an example of narrative setting? Narrative setting is used in many contexts ranging from advertising to political propaganda. It is a technique to prime people into thinking in certain ways, a form of brainwashing for those without the knowledge or the experience to assess for themselves what is happening.

How many have died from the rona in America?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Hi Syl, the title and the description: President Trump claims injecting people with disinfectant could treat coronavirus
US President Donald Trump has claimed "emerging" research suggests disinfectants and sunlight might be able to used as treatments and diminish the threat of the new coronavirus, triggering a backlash from medical experts.
gives a false impression of what President Trump said. He was contingent in what he said. He said there were a number of avenues of research that either had or hadn't been explored and that medics would be needed to explore them and that some of the things he had heard seemed promising. That is the nature of research.
Chemicals are injected into the body as forms of treatment, some of these can be described as bleaches but these are not domestic bleach formulations, they are oxidants and when targeted can be used to deactivate and kill certain bugs. So for example oxygen itself is a bleach that is deadly to many types of bugs. Similarly light is used in various forms of medical treatments.
There was absolutely nothing medically wrong with what he said. You have to take a step towards misinterpreting what he said in order to claim that what he said was irresponsible.
So what we have to do next is to consider the journalism. Is this good journalism or is it an example of narrative setting? Narrative setting is used in many contexts ranging from advertising to political propaganda. It is a technique to prime people into thinking in certain ways, a form of brainwashing for those without the knowledge or the experience to assess for themselves what is happening.

That's why I posted the actual video...no one can argue with what he said, whether he was being sarcastic, as he later claimed, is up to people to decide for themselves,

Date: Nov 11 7:02 PM, 2020

Syl wrote:

Someone posted the full video the other day. No mention of bleach or Lysol or any of the many other ridiculous things people and press claim he said

He was asking questions of the scientists, Drs or other medical personnel to the side of him. Disinfectant is used in many medical procedures but only the press and uneducated would think he meant domestic disinfectant.

When everything he says or does is twisted into something else there has to be an agenda somewhere.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Well like I said, people can watch the video, or find it themselves, and make up their own minds without any coercion from anyone else.

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
Well like I said, people can watch the video, or find it themselves, and make up their own minds without any coercion from anyone else.

The video speaks for itself, certain Trumpateers are just in severe denial about what a prick the man really is.

The cognitive dissonance is incredible.

They will blame anyone and everyone except Trump himself.

Date: Nov 11 8:02 PM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well like I said, people can watch the video, or find it themselves, and make up their own minds without any coercion from anyone else.
The video speaks for itself, certain Trumpateers are just in severe denial about what a prick the man really is.
The cognitive dissonance is incredible.
They will blame anyone and everyone except Trump himself.

Could you be friends with someone who revealed themselves to be a Trump supporter?

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well like I said, people can watch the video, or find it themselves, and make up their own minds without any coercion from anyone else.
The video speaks for itself, certain Trumpateers are just in severe denial about what a prick the man really is.
The cognitive dissonance is incredible.
They will blame anyone and everyone except Trump himself.
Could you be friends with someone who revealed themselves to be a Trump supporter?

Yes as long as they were not strident about it and kept blaming all and sundry and conspiracy theories for his own failures, many voted for him in spite of themselves because they are at heart Republican and could not vote Democrat for whatever reason although I am certain those are not the more fanatical ones on TV and in the news every day who do peddle such nonsense.

Date: Nov 12 12:09 AM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?
Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.
Do you think his attitudes, cheap insults about the dead, childish bullying behaviour and endless outright lies are befitting of a grown man let alone the POTUS?
He has done such thing live on national TV many, many times or did the media force him to behave like that?
You are unbelievable.
He is a psychopathic narcissist will simply will not accept he has lost.
At one of his rallies he said you would not hear about COVID-19 after November 4th as if it was some big fraud, well half his team have fucking had it and infections and deaths continue to soar to record levels in the US.
Or did you believe him about that as well?
Maybe he should inject some bleach and do everyone a favour.

-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 07:10:25 PM

You edit nearly every post you make. But do you actually read what you write?

Your posts are full of nothing but cheap insults.

It's like you've become fixated on Trump and some how blame him for your life problems

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
wrote:

Media hate Trump because he is exposing them and the people they favour and who is behind them.

Very interesting times.

-- Edited by Digger on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 10:11:10 AM
Don't you mean Trump hates the media because they are exposing him and the people behind him?
Ignoring Donald Trump, do you trust the media? Do you watch and read the media and say yes this is an example of descriptive and impartial reporting? Or are they always squeezing everything into a narrative.
Do you think his attitudes, cheap insults about the dead, childish bullying behaviour and endless outright lies are befitting of a grown man let alone the POTUS?
He has done such thing live on national TV many, many times or did the media force him to behave like that?
You are unbelievable.
He is a psychopathic narcissist will simply will not accept he has lost.
At one of his rallies he said you would not hear about COVID-19 after November 4th as if it was some big fraud, well half his team have fucking had it and infections and deaths continue to soar to record levels in the US.
Or did you believe him about that as well?
Maybe he should inject some bleach and do everyone a favour.

-- Edited by John Doe on Tuesday 10th of November 2020 07:10:25 PM
You edit nearly every post you make. But do you actually read what you write?
Your posts are full of nothing but cheap insults.
It's like you've become fixated on Trump and some how blame him for your life problems

He deserves to be insulted, just like he insulted Bidens's dead son and all those who lost their lives in conflicts defending America.

Do I blame Trump for whatever problems I may or not have or are you talking utter nonsense again?

On balance I think you are oh anonymous one.

-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 12th of November 2020 12:42:02 AM

John Doe · Still Here!

More facts that show Trump's ludicrous allegations to be pure fiction.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/voter-fraud-used-to-be-rampant-now-an-anomaly/

-- Edited by John Doe on Thursday 12th of November 2020 03:33:36 AM