ChaoticMusings

John Doe · Still Here!

Words fail me.

Magica · Go Outside

I'm sick of this too JD. We protect the scumbags that want to harm us, it doesn't make sense.

John Doe · Still Here!

Magica wrote:
I'm sick of this too JD. We protect the scumbags that want to harm us, it doesn't make sense.

It just baffles me and many others I suspect.

The softly softly approach just does not work with these people - they are laughing at us.

Magica · Go Outside

They are and they have solicitors lining up to defend them, who we pay for. This country doesn't protect us, just these scumbags who want to kill us!

Date: Nov 26 9:12 PM, 2020

He has served his time and therefore deserves his freedom. He is paralysed from the waist down from fighting in Libya against the forces of Gaddafi and therefore should be treated as a war hero given Britain's overseas action to overthrow Gaddafi in bombing Libya.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

He may have served his time, the problem is the sentence very often doesn't fit the crime.

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
He may have served his time, the problem is the sentence very often doesn't fit the crime.

Exactly and he is still a threat paralysed or not. They should be deported.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
He has served his time and therefore deserves his freedom. He is paralysed from the waist down from fighting in Libya against the forces of Gaddafi and therefore should be treated as a war hero given Britain's overseas action to overthrow Gaddafi in bombing Libya.

A war hero?

You are obviously on a wind up.

He refused to co-operate over an atrocity which slaughtered innocent children.

Hero my arse.

Date: Nov 28 3:41 AM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He has served his time and therefore deserves his freedom. He is paralysed from the waist down from fighting in Libya against the forces of Gaddafi and therefore should be treated as a war hero given Britain's overseas action to overthrow Gaddafi in bombing Libya.
A war hero?
You are obviously on a wind up.
He refused to co-operate over an atrocity which slaughtered innocent children.
Hero my arse.

He is being released and you don't like it yet British law and British judges are releasing him based on information that they have that you don't have. All you have are your opinions and your prejudices. Try taking your complaint to the judge.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He has served his time and therefore deserves his freedom. He is paralysed from the waist down from fighting in Libya against the forces of Gaddafi and therefore should be treated as a war hero given Britain's overseas action to overthrow Gaddafi in bombing Libya.
A war hero?
You are obviously on a wind up.
He refused to co-operate over an atrocity which slaughtered innocent children.
Hero my arse.
He is being released and you don't like it yet British law and British judges are releasing him based on information that they have that you don't have. All you have are your opinions and your prejudices. Try taking your complaint to the judge.

You seem very fond of terrorists - I find that disturbing.

Oh and some judges have frequently shown to be out of touch and incompetent.

You are defending the indefensible.

Why?

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 28th of November 2020 04:50:53 PM

Date: Nov 29 2:28 AM, 2020

John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He is being released and you don't like it yet British law and British judges are releasing him based on information that they have that you don't have. All you have are your opinions and your prejudices. Try taking your complaint to the judge.
You seem very fond of terrorists - I find that disturbing.
Oh and some judges have frequently shown to be out of touch and incompetent.
You are defending the indefensible.
Why?

-- Edited by John Doe on Saturday 28th of November 2020 04:50:53 PM

So British Law and the British Judge are indefensible? What is the solution - mob justice? Everybody seems to be in favor of mob justice these days.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

The only person who has mentioned mob justice is you.

Obviously sometimes sentences are too short and parole too lenient, and only an idiot could defend some judges rulings on the cases that come before them.

This from the opening post may be an indication that many offenders are released too early....

"It follows two terrorist attacks in London, where the extremists involved had only recently been released from prison and were still on licence."

Date: Nov 29 1:15 PM, 2020

The issue is because I have stated my support for the british justice system in this instance i am being accused of supporting or loving terrorism. This tells me that there is no real discussion going on but rather a form of sociological interaction that attempts to impose conformity of thought. The result is nothing is ever achieved. All we have are certain individuals attacking others for not accepting uncritically their opinions or statements. Everything is personalised. Individual commentators attack each other. There is no passing go. Maybe the majority of people on social media are only interested in the psychologically warmth that comes from the affirmation of others and when that affirmation doesn't arrive they react emotionally and begin to project things onto those that fail to affirm them. The result is that most people end up in a social bubble, an echo chamber. Divided and ruled over.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

That's forums for you.

Everyone who has an opposing view sometimes get's called out for it, you can always argue your points if you feel strongly about something.

Unfortunately for you, you are are a none member, and the only place available to you to debate a topic is in Whine....and Whine is not really known for polite interchanges.

Magica · Go Outside

I don't know why anyone would back a terrorist. Let's hope anon or family doesn't become a victim.

dr synne · Musing at the Chaos

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
He has served his time and therefore deserves his freedom. He is paralysed from the waist down from fighting in Libya against the forces of Gaddafi and therefore should be treated as a war hero given Britain's overseas action to overthrow Gaddafi in bombing Libya.
A war hero?
You are obviously on a wind up.
He refused to co-operate over an atrocity which slaughtered innocent children.
Hero my arse.
He is being released and you don't like it yet British law and British judges are releasing him based on information that they have that you don't have. All you have are your opinions and your prejudices. Try taking your complaint to the judge.

Well if the problem is ignorance perhaps they should share the information that led to their decision so we can understand it, or challenge it.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

British judges don't make the decision to release prisoners early, a parole board does, and they don't have to make their findings of why, in their opinion a person should be released early public.

dr synne · Musing at the Chaos

Anonymous wrote:
The issue is because I have stated my support for the british justice system in this instance i am being accused of supporting or loving terrorism. This tells me that there is no real discussion going on but rather a form of sociological interaction that attempts to impose conformity of thought. The result is nothing is ever achieved. All we have are certain individuals attacking others for not accepting uncritically their opinions or statements. Everything is personalised. Individual commentators attack each other. There is no passing go. Maybe the majority of people on social media are only interested in the psychologically warmth that comes from the affirmation of others and when that affirmation doesn't arrive they react emotionally and begin to project things onto those that fail to affirm them. The result is that most people end up in a social bubble, an echo chamber. Divided and ruled over.

You've also attacked others over their 'ignorance'. If you think psychological herd mentality is only a manifestation of one particular group or opinion then you're sadly mistaken.

John Doe · Still Here!

Anonymous wrote:
The issue is because I have stated my support for the british justice system in this instance i am being accused of supporting or loving terrorism. This tells me that there is no real discussion going on but rather a form of sociological interaction that attempts to impose conformity of thought. The result is nothing is ever achieved. All we have are certain individuals attacking others for not accepting uncritically their opinions or statements. Everything is personalised. Individual commentators attack each other. There is no passing go. Maybe the majority of people on social media are only interested in the psychologically warmth that comes from the affirmation of others and when that affirmation doesn't arrive they react emotionally and begin to project things onto those that fail to affirm them. The result is that most people end up in a social bubble, an echo chamber. Divided and ruled over.

The above is a classic example of your passive aggressive posts (whoever you are).

If you want an depth discussion that adheres to your lofty high standards then why not join and post in the News thread here?

I will ask again why on earth would you call such a dangerous individual and convicted extremist who refused to co-operate over the Manchester atrocity a 'war hero'?

John Doe · Still Here!

Another baffling decision by a British parole board, less than 18 months served for each child she helped to burn alive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55121137