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John Doe


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Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

"Great men are always bad men"....I wonder if that's true. Presumably they have to be ruthless, but that doesn't have to mean 'bad'.

 I think he was using great to define their status or power.  

 

I think Bob the barkeep from Bristol could be a great man, but not in the sense that Acton fella is using.  

 I  was actually meaning 'great' in the same way he meant.

Powerful leaders etc....have they all been bad? I doubt it.

I agree, for example the great stoic philosopher Marcus Aurelius (he was one of the 'Five Good Emperors' along with Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian and Antoninus Pius all excellent leaders) certainly was not a bad man but a truly magnificent one (his 'Meditations' jotted down for only himself to read in battle tents is superb and far superior to all the so called 'Holy' books we are still lumbered with).

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-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 26th of May 2021 05:52:04 PM

 I'm somewhat interested in the stoic philosophy. 

 

I didn't picture it being something up your alley.  

Oh yes MD, do you have 'Meditations'?

 Nah. I'm just trying to find a philosophies that match my own beliefs. 

 

Or explain them.

 

Like Objectivism, which isn't Stoicism, but also something I relate to at times.  

 

Maybe I'll buy it. 

 You should. up



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John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:

"Great men are always bad men"....I wonder if that's true. Presumably they have to be ruthless, but that doesn't have to mean 'bad'.

 I think he was using great to define their status or power.  

 

I think Bob the barkeep from Bristol could be a great man, but not in the sense that Acton fella is using.  

 I  was actually meaning 'great' in the same way he meant.

Powerful leaders etc....have they all been bad? I doubt it.

I agree, for example the great stoic philosopher Marcus Aurelius (he was one of the 'Five Good Emperors' along with Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian and Antoninus Pius all excellent leaders) certainly was not a bad man but a truly magnificent one (his 'Meditations' jotted down for only himself to read in battle tents is superb and far superior to all the so called 'Holy' books we are still lumbered with).

2ca4ba18a14c1d5073ab8d5388c5d304.jpg

 



-- Edited by John Doe on Wednesday 26th of May 2021 05:52:04 PM

 I like that, always better to look up at the stars than down in the gutter.



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