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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anti-vaxxer musician dies from Covid aged 40, after saying he couldn't get ill because he exercised

John Doe · Still Here!

Another triumph for medical science - I wonder what the Anti-vaxxers think?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59148620

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59162930

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.

From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Another triumph for medical science - I wonder what the Anti-vaxxers think?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59148620
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59162930

Have you had your shot?

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.

And you think people should be forced to get boosters for life, simply to have some sort of normal life?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
And you think people should be forced to get boosters for life, simply to have some sort of normal life?

I don't think anyone should be forced to have any vaccination....not sure why you get that impression.

I said boosters may possibly be required till the death and infection rates drop...which hopefully they will.

Your own country is far stricter on the unvaccinated than the UK, did you not tell me months ago a young pregnant woman who worked as a waitress was sacked because she had refused the covid jab?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.

The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
And you think people should be forced to get boosters for life, simply to have some sort of normal life?
I don't think anyone should be forced to have any vaccination....not sure why you get that impression.
I said boosters may possibly be required till the death and infection rates drop...which hopefully they will.

Your own country is far stricter on the unvaccinated than the UK, did you not tell me months ago a young pregnant woman who worked as a waitress was sacked because she had refused the covid jab?

That would be a local law. New York I imagine.

But Sleepy Joe has instituted mandatory vaccines as of Jan 4, for anyone working in a company over 100 employees.

Why 100?

Beats me.

It was your use of the word "required". I read that to be some sort of mandate.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.
The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.

"Influenza, whether of the seasonal or pandemic variety, is asymptomatic in most people with serologically confirmed infection, according to a study in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine."

https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

Maddog · Go Outside

Nearly 34,000 people at Disneyland underwent testing, which ended close to midnight, long after the festivities at the park are usually finished. Ferried home on 220 special buses, all were found Monday to be negative but are still required to isolate at home for two days, and be re-tested for the coronavirus in two weeks.

The shutdown of one of Walt Disney Co.’s most lucrative parks came after a positive case in a woman who traveled to Shanghai from nearby Hangzhou over the weekend. While officials are yet to confirm whether she visited Disneyland, her infection sparked an aggressive contact tracing effort across China, which eventually ensnared the park-goers, their families and Disneyland staff.

To people in parts of the world where Covid is already endemic, the reaction may seem extreme, but it’s emblematic of China’s increasingly hardcore approach to keeping the pathogen out at any cost.

www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/locking-guests-inside-disneyland-shows-chinas-extreme-covid-tactics/ar-AAQaNOC

Sounds like Australia.

No doubt, many politicians and their sycophants would love to have the Covid fighting powers of the Chinese government. For our safety and all.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.
The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.
"Influenza, whether of the seasonal or pandemic variety, is asymptomatic in most people with serologically confirmed infection, according to a study in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine."
https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

OK.

It's surprising to me that the study found so many people with flu show no symptoms.

We live and learn.

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.
The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.
"Influenza, whether of the seasonal or pandemic variety, is asymptomatic in most people with serologically confirmed infection, according to a study in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine."
https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

OK.
It's surprising to me that the study found so many people with flu show no symptoms.
We live and learn.

As long as we don't believe in the endless of variety of Sky Fairies - and of course the Anti-vaxxers.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 5th of November 2021 12:23:04 AM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I am sick of talking about this subject.
To me it's obvious.
We are still in the middle of a deadly pandemic. There is a vaccine that offers good protection, so less chance of being infected, less chance of passing on the virus, much less chance of becoming seriously ill or dying from the virus.

Research has shown that the vaccination effects start to diminish over several months, so a booster is available to prolong protection.

It has become mandatory for carers working in care homes to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.
It will, from next April, become mandatory for front line NHS workers to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.

No one will be forced to have the vaccine, they will be free to work elsewhere, hopefully not in close contact with the old/ill/vulnerable.

That's it in a nutshell.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I am sick of talking about this subject.
To me it's obvious.
We are still in the middle of a deadly pandemic. There is a vaccine that offers good protection, so less chance of being infected, less chance of passing on the virus, much less chance of becoming seriously ill or dying from the virus.

Research has shown that the vaccination effects start to diminish over several months, so a booster is available to prolong protection.

It has become mandatory for carers working in care homes to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.
It will, from next April, become mandatory for front line NHS workers to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.

No one will be forced to have the vaccine, they will be free to work elsewhere, hopefully not in close contact with the old/ill/vulnerable.

That's it in a nutshell.

The vaccine does provide some protection. About the same as natural immunity. If you want that additional protection, by all means get it.

If you don't, your choice will have almost zero impact on others so make your own health decisions and stop worrying about the decisions of others.

Handle your own affairs and stay out of the affairs of others.

That's it in a nutshell.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.
The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.
"Influenza, whether of the seasonal or pandemic variety, is asymptomatic in most people with serologically confirmed infection, according to a study in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine."
https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

OK.
It's surprising to me that the study found so many people with flu show no symptoms.
We live and learn.
As long as we don't believe in the endless of variety of Sky Fairies - and of course the Anti-vaxxers.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 5th of November 2021 12:23:04 AM

Why do you care? What the fuck is wrong with you?

People that have zero impact on your life are always in your thoughts and comments.

Did you get beat up by the girls at a catholic school when you were little?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I am sick of talking about this subject.
To me it's obvious.
We are still in the middle of a deadly pandemic. There is a vaccine that offers good protection, so less chance of being infected, less chance of passing on the virus, much less chance of becoming seriously ill or dying from the virus.

Research has shown that the vaccination effects start to diminish over several months, so a booster is available to prolong protection.

It has become mandatory for carers working in care homes to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.
It will, from next April, become mandatory for front line NHS workers to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.

No one will be forced to have the vaccine, they will be free to work elsewhere, hopefully not in close contact with the old/ill/vulnerable.

That's it in a nutshell.

The vaccine does provide some protection. About the same as natural immunity. If you want that additional protection, by all means get it.

If you don't, your choice will have almost zero impact on others so make your own health decisions and stop worrying about the decisions of others.

Handle your own affairs and stay out of the affairs of others.

That's it in a nutshell.

The problem is, to attain natural immunity, (which is thought to last only marginally longer than the vaccination) one has to first catch Covid, and unfortunately, as well over 5,000,000 people have already died from it, it's a risky way of gaining short term immunity in my opinion.

Of course I worry about the health of others...if I lived on a desert island I would give toss all, as it is, I live in a society, and some decisions have to include other people...it's called not being a self serving, selfish, idiot.

John Doe · Still Here!

Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.
The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.
"Influenza, whether of the seasonal or pandemic variety, is asymptomatic in most people with serologically confirmed infection, according to a study in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine."
https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

OK.
It's surprising to me that the study found so many people with flu show no symptoms.
We live and learn.
As long as we don't believe in the endless of variety of Sky Fairies - and of course the Anti-vaxxers.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 5th of November 2021 12:23:04 AM
Why do you care? What the fuck is wrong with you?

People that have zero impact on your life are always in your thoughts and comments.

Did you get beat up by the girls at a catholic school when you were little?

Nothing wrong with me, you seem to think that unless something has a direct impact on you it does not matter at all.

You also seem to think if the US did away with the most of the government and law enforcement agencies everything would be wonderful - well no it would not it would be brutal anarchy.

Oh and why the primary school insult?

At least I don't have to carry around more lethal weapons than The Terminator to feel normal and safe like most of Texas and the Southern US does.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 5th of November 2021 03:40:39 PM

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I am sick of talking about this subject.
To me it's obvious.
We are still in the middle of a deadly pandemic. There is a vaccine that offers good protection, so less chance of being infected, less chance of passing on the virus, much less chance of becoming seriously ill or dying from the virus.

Research has shown that the vaccination effects start to diminish over several months, so a booster is available to prolong protection.

It has become mandatory for carers working in care homes to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.
It will, from next April, become mandatory for front line NHS workers to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.

No one will be forced to have the vaccine, they will be free to work elsewhere, hopefully not in close contact with the old/ill/vulnerable.

That's it in a nutshell.

The vaccine does provide some protection. About the same as natural immunity. If you want that additional protection, by all means get it.

If you don't, your choice will have almost zero impact on others so make your own health decisions and stop worrying about the decisions of others.

Handle your own affairs and stay out of the affairs of others.

That's it in a nutshell.
The problem is, to attain natural immunity, (which is thought to last only marginally longer than the vaccination) one has to first catch Covid, and unfortunately, as well over 5,000,000 people have already died from it, it's a risky way of gaining short term immunity in my opinion.
Of course I worry about the health of others...if I lived on a desert island I would give toss all, as it is, I live in a society, and some decisions have to include other people...it's called not being a self serving, selfish, idiot.

This.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I am sick of talking about this subject.
To me it's obvious.
We are still in the middle of a deadly pandemic. There is a vaccine that offers good protection, so less chance of being infected, less chance of passing on the virus, much less chance of becoming seriously ill or dying from the virus.

Research has shown that the vaccination effects start to diminish over several months, so a booster is available to prolong protection.

It has become mandatory for carers working in care homes to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.
It will, from next April, become mandatory for front line NHS workers to be vaccinated to protect the vulnerable.

No one will be forced to have the vaccine, they will be free to work elsewhere, hopefully not in close contact with the old/ill/vulnerable.

That's it in a nutshell.

The vaccine does provide some protection. About the same as natural immunity. If you want that additional protection, by all means get it.

If you don't, your choice will have almost zero impact on others so make your own health decisions and stop worrying about the decisions of others.

Handle your own affairs and stay out of the affairs of others.

That's it in a nutshell.
The problem is, to attain natural immunity, (which is thought to last only marginally longer than the vaccination) one has to first catch Covid, and unfortunately, as well over 5,000,000 people have already died from it, it's a risky way of gaining short term immunity in my opinion.
Of course I worry about the health of others...if I lived on a desert island I would give toss all, as it is, I live in a society, and some decisions have to include other people...it's called not being a self serving, selfish, idiot.

The idiots aren't impacting you. Your vaccine status will.

Maddog · Go Outside

John Doe wrote:
Maddog wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I imagine boosters may be required until the death and infection rates go right down, which unless a strain comes along that gets round the vaccine, they will.

Flu is slightly different, for a start it doesn't kill nearly as many people as Covid 19 has, and usually people know they have the flu, and take time off work.

Personally I think it would benefit everyone if NHS workers and carers did have the flu jab too as a matter of course.
From what I'm hearing, you will get your wish in regards to the flu vaccine.

I think people know when they have the flu, about as well as they know when they have Covid.
The flu has obvious side effects, it's horrendous, I am talking of the real flu not man flu.

Two out of three people have no symptoms at all when they have Covid, possibly one of the reasons it's managed to spread so drastically.
"Influenza, whether of the seasonal or pandemic variety, is asymptomatic in most people with serologically confirmed infection, according to a study in the Lancet Respiratory Medicine."
https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

OK.
It's surprising to me that the study found so many people with flu show no symptoms.
We live and learn.
As long as we don't believe in the endless of variety of Sky Fairies - and of course the Anti-vaxxers.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 5th of November 2021 12:23:04 AM
Why do you care? What the fuck is wrong with you?

People that have zero impact on your life are always in your thoughts and comments.

Did you get beat up by the girls at a catholic school when you were little?
Nothing wrong with me, you seem to think that unless something has a direct impact on you it does not matter at all.
You also seem to think if the US did away with the most of the government and law enforcement agencies everything would be wonderful - well no it would not it would be brutal anarchy.
Oh and why the primary school insult?
At least I don't have to carry around more lethal weapons than The Terminator to feel normal and safe like most of Texas and the Southern US does.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 5th of November 2021 03:40:39 PM

Everything matters.

Doesn't mean I have to obsess about what other people do.

Live and let live. Believe in no gods or 100. Get every shot known to man, or get none.

Focus on your problems, and that will make the world a better place than focusing on what you perceive to be the problems of others.

I'm not even going to comment on the rest of your blathering nonsense. It's just more of you talking shit.