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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

RE: Manchester Arena bomber's brother leaves the country.

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Syl wrote:
Hopefully, something will be found without them having to talk.
But if it isn't....deport the bastards, and that would include the Abedis parents who have also refused to help with the ongoing enquiries.
Oh but we can't do that Syl, that is against their sacred human rights...
But not theirs...

Exactly.

I am sick of our softly, softly approach to Islamic extremists.

Thank God your grandson was off that night.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Hopefully, something will be found without them having to talk.
But if it isn't....deport the bastards, and that would include the Abedis parents who have also refused to help with the ongoing enquiries.

Aren't the parents long gone?

I thought they already lived back in the Middle East?

Syria I believe

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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I dont think anyone knows for sure where he is.
Both him and his wife refused to help police after their bomber son was killed. The father reportedly fled back to Libya, the country he fled from and sought asylum in Britain.

It seems to me that the family were all complicit...plus the friend who has been questioned at the enquiry today.
He is already in prison for terrorist activity.

Terrorist friend of Manchester bomber says he has been badly treated and wasn’t ‘behind’ attack (msn.com)

-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 20th of October 2021 07:28:30 PM

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
I dont think anyone knows for sure where he is.
Both him and his wife refused to help police after their bomber son was killed. The father reportedly fled back to Libya, the country he fled from and sought asylum in Britain.

It seems to me that the family were all complicit...plus the friend who has been questioned at the enquiry today.
He is already in prison for terrorist activity.

Terrorist friend of Manchester bomber says he has been badly treated and wasn’t ‘behind’ attack (msn.com)

-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 20th of October 2021 07:28:30 PM

These terrorists tend to whine a lot about being treated 'badly' after they have deliberately slaughtered innocent people - they are very lucky not to be lynched by the victim's families.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

We are incredibly soft on these bastards.
They really should be deported as soon as they have served their prison time.
If they are deported back to their country of origin from whence they fled once....tough.

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
We are incredibly soft on these bastards.
They really should be deported as soon as they have served their prison time.
If they are deported back to their country of origin from whence they fled once....tough.

Exactly.

John Doe · Still Here!

After all we have allowed over 400 ISIS fighters to fucking swan back into the country.

They should all be in prison for life

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I dont think anyone knows for sure where he is.
Both him and his wife refused to help police after their bomber son was killed. The father reportedly fled back to Libya, the country he fled from and sought asylum in Britain.

It seems to me that the family were all complicit...plus the friend who has been questioned at the enquiry today.
He is already in prison for terrorist activity.

Terrorist friend of Manchester bomber says he has been badly treated and wasn’t ‘behind’ attack (msn.com)

-- Edited by Syl on Wednesday 20th of October 2021 07:28:30 PM

The Abedi brothers' father Ramadan and mother, both suspects over the attack, are in Libya. Neither has engaged with the inquiry

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Well hopfully they will never again be allowed to step foot into the country that gave them refuge when they were desperate.

Let them livewith the knowledge they brought their two sons up to hate and murder innocent kids and families.
One is dead, and hopefully the other will one day face justice.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Well hopfully they will never again be allowed to step foot into the country that gave them refuge when they were desperate.

Let them livewith the knowledge they brought their two sons up to hate and murder innocent kids and families.
One is dead, and hopefully the other will one day face justice.

There were 3 sons I think. One is dead, one will die in prison and one is in probably in Libya.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well hopfully they will never again be allowed to step foot into the country that gave them refuge when they were desperate.

Let them livewith the knowledge they brought their two sons up to hate and murder innocent kids and families.
One is dead, and hopefully the other will one day face justice.
There were 3 sons I think. One is dead, one will die in prison and one is in probably in Libya.

The one who should be giving evidence today is thought to be in Libya, as are the parents.

But...they would be free to come back here as and when they choose, and that is totally wrong. If they did return, the only charge the son would presently face is for not appearing in court when he was ordered to...he would probably get a light slap on the wrist for that.

You are right, the third brother eventually admitted his involvement, hopefully he will die in prison....pity we don't still have the death penalty.

I know the Murrays who lost their son in the attack. Figen Murray has campaigned for justice for her son, the dead and hundreds badly injured. She spoke out after he was sentenced last year.

-- Edited by Syl on Thursday 21st of October 2021 11:01:29 AM

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well hopfully they will never again be allowed to step foot into the country that gave them refuge when they were desperate.

Let them livewith the knowledge they brought their two sons up to hate and murder innocent kids and families.
One is dead, and hopefully the other will one day face justice.
There were 3 sons I think. One is dead, one will die in prison and one is in probably in Libya.
The one who should be giving evidence today is thought to be in Libya, as are the parents.
But...they would be free to come back here as and when they choose, and that is totally wrong. If they did return, the only charge the son would presently face is for not appearing in court when he was ordered to...he would probably get a light slap on the wrist for that.
You are right, the third brother eventually admitted his involvement, hopefully he will die in prison....pity we don't still have the death penalty.
I know the Murrays who lost their son in the attack. Figen Murray has campaigned for justice for her son, the dead and hundreds badly injured. She spoke out after he was sentenced last year.

-- Edited by Syl on Thursday 21st of October 2021 11:01:29 AM

Maybe the one in prison will implicate his surviving brother and the police will have a case to try?

Until then, there isn't much you can do to these folks.

You can investigate all you want, but without enough evidence to charge them, they are pretty much free to do what they want.

You can't deny rights without some form of due process.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I doubt the one in jail will talk about his brother.
The two friends, the one in prison and the one who helped buy the car that was used to store bomb equipment both deny having any knowledge of the planned attack.
Liars.

This is todays reporting of the inquiry.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58994349

John Doe · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
I doubt the one in jail will talk about his brother.
The two friends, the one in prison and the one who helped buy the car that was used to store bomb equipment both deny having any knowledge of the planned attack.
Liars.

This is todays reporting of the inquiry.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58994349

That is also the BBC report who whenever there is a Muslim crime or terrorist atrocity (like the rape gangs) refers to everyone as 'Asian'.

Magica · Go Outside

I really have no words anymore. Sick sick sick of this country letting them in and then treating them with kid gloves. Why wasn't he under watch until the trial, better still, in prison?

Yes calling them Asian incorporates.lots of countries who arn't muslim. Call them what they are, bloody muslims!

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I doubt the one in jail will talk about his brother.
The two friends, the one in prison and the one who helped buy the car that was used to store bomb equipment both deny having any knowledge of the planned attack.
Liars.

This is todays reporting of the inquiry.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-58994349

Virtually everyone in prison is liar. The difference between those in and out of prison is that the former was proven to be liars by the government. The latter wasn't.

That's our system. The burden of proof is high, but for a good reason. The alternative is worse.