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Maddog · Go Outside

RE: President Biden is 'angry and concerned' at Kyle Rittenhouse's not guilty verdict

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

They were being targeted and attacked because they were Korean, and the police were doing nothing to help them, so they had to defend themselves.

That's a different scenario to the one we have been talking about.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
They were being targeted and attacked because they were Korean, and the police were doing nothing to help them, so they had to defend themselves.

That's a different scenario to the one we have been talking about.

They were targeted because they had property.

They defended that property. Friends came to help them defend that property.

Are you familiar with the property damage in Kenosha from the riots there. The police were powerless to stop that damage too.

-- Edited by Maddog on Tuesday 23rd of November 2021 12:33:17 AM

Maddog · Go Outside

And it's not just white boys and Koreans who will arm themselves to protect communities.

Nobody likes people destroying their neighborhoods.

Some folks, regardless of color, will do something about it.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

No, I am not familiar with the riots in kenosha.

I am not saying that people dont always have a right to defend themselves or their property.
I am saying the two riots we were talking about are different.

There was a police presence at the first, none at the second....a particular group of people (korean) were being attacked and not protected in the 2nd riot....that makes all the difference to me.

Nothing you have posted changes my opinion about Kyle RIttenhouse's actions.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
No, I am not familiar with the riots in kenosha.

I am not saying that people dont always have a right to defend themselves or their property.
I am saying the two riots we were talking about are different.

There was a police presence at the first, none at the second....a particular group of people (korean) were being attacked and not protected in the 2nd riot....that makes all the difference to me.

Nothing you have posted changes my opinion about Kyle RIttenhouse's actions.

How were the riots different?

Property was being destroyed and the police couldn't protect it.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I have already given my reasons.

Maybe some people believe property is more important than lives. I'm not one of them.

My first comment stands, get properly insured, and if it kicks off, don't inflame a situation by turning up looking like Rambo, leave it up to the authorities to sort out.

If you live in a country where the authorities are turning a blind eye to wanton destruction that's ruining people's livelihoods....you have bigger problems than first thought.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I have already given my reasons.

Maybe some people believe property is more important than lives. I'm not one of them.

My first comment stands, get properly insured, and if it kicks off, don't inflame a situation by turning up looking like Rambo, leave it up to the authorities to sort out.

If you live in a country where the authorities are turning a blind eye to wanton destruction that's ruining people's livelihoods....you have bigger problems than first thought.

That's exactly what happens in a riot, to some degree.

Authorities hold small areas, and other areas are left to their own to burn.

The cops lose control.

Maddog · Go Outside

This clears up a lot of what was going on.

I'm not sure how many folks are that interested at this point.

Date: Nov 27 7:46 AM, 2021

John Doe wrote:
The thing is unlike in the US none of us blokes us are professionally armed or trained so poncing about without weapons like knuckledusters to try to stop a lethal riot would do fuck all.
That is why we pay our taxes in the UK so the police and the army do their job.
Of course if they failed then that is a different matter - but touch wood since the early 20th century they have not.
Unlike the US.

-- Edited by John Doe on Monday 22nd of November 2021 01:04:44 AM

Where were they when the London riots were going on? Nowhere. Like all our riots here those rioting are left to it, to loot and destroy peoples businesses.

You cannot debate with our unarmed mentality with a country that allows arms.

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
John Doe wrote:
The thing is unlike in the US none of us blokes us are professionally armed or trained so poncing about without weapons like knuckledusters to try to stop a lethal riot would do fuck all.
That is why we pay our taxes in the UK so the police and the army do their job.
Of course if they failed then that is a different matter - but touch wood since the early 20th century they have not.
Unlike the US.

-- Edited by John Doe on Monday 22nd of November 2021 01:04:44 AM
Where were they when the London riots were going on? Nowhere. Like all our riots here those rioting are left to it, to loot and destroy peoples businesses.

You cannot debate with our unarmed mentality with a country that allows arms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

Maddog · Go Outside

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots