ChaoticMusings

Syl wrote:

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Sliding doors?

I dont think I believe in fate.
If someone is running late, misses their train, it crashes, everyone aboard dies, so that person has had a lucky escape...is that fate?

If so, is fate now waiting to claim back the life it should have taken and didn't?

It sounds like a sequel to 'Final Destination' to me.

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 I've related the story on here of how I missed one of the Manchester bombings by minutes because I decided to wash my hair before I went to work.  I'm still here 35 years later.

John Doe wrote:

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There is no such thing as fate as far as I am concerned.

If there was what have the starving women/children being laughingly dismembered alive in African hellholes by well fed soldiers, the starving, the children dying of cancer, the victims of torture and death by serial killers, natural disasters etc done to deserve their 'fate'?

Why do the most ruthless and evil people do so very well?

Life is ultimately meaningless, it's a demolition derby. I have no children so my line will come to an end after 4 billion years of evolution.

Dawkins said it well in his classic nearly 50 years ago about being mere gene replication machines.

"Was there to be any end to the gradual improvement in the techniques and artifices used by the replicators to ensure their own continuation in the world? There would be plenty of time for improvement. What weird engines of self-preservation would the millennia bring forth? Four thousand million years on, what was to be the fate of the ancient replicators?

They did not die out, for they are past masters of the survival arts. But do not look for them floating loose in the sea; they gave up that cavalier freedom long ago. Now they swarm in huge colonies, safe inside gigantic lumbering robots, sealed off from the outside world, communicating with it by tortuous indirect routes, manipulating it by remote control.

They are in you and in me; they created us, body and mind; and their preservation is the ultimate rationale for our existence. They have come a long way, those replicators. Now they go by the name of genes, and we are their survival machines."

Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene.

-- Edited by John Doe on Friday 14th of January 2022 03:37:49 PM

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 How many times have you wished some dreadful death or punishment on a murdering paedophile?   Don't you wish, if it were possible, that they might come back in another life and experience the same fate?  

 

I believe in fate. I remember back in the 70s, I was running for a bus to go to a pub. The bus drive off I was so angry. A short while later the IRA threw a bomb into the pub I would have been in if I hadn't missed the bus!

Digger wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Sliding doors?

I dont think I believe in fate.
If someone is running late, misses their train, it crashes, everyone aboard dies, so that person has had a lucky escape...is that fate?

If so, is fate now waiting to claim back the life it should have taken and didn't?

It sounds like a sequel to 'Final Destination' to me.

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 I've related the story on here of how I missed one of the Manchester bombings by minutes because I decided to wash my hair before I went to work.  I'm still here 35 years later.

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 Exactly, which proves that you can cheat death without fate hanging round to get you, like the grim reaper.

Syl wrote:

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Magica wrote:

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I believe in fate. I remember back in the 70s, I was running for a bus to go to a pub. The bus drive off I was so angry. A short while later the IRA threw a bomb into the pub I would have been in if I hadn't missed the bus!

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 You had a lucky escape, but what of the people who were in the pub?

I dont believe it was fate they were injured or died that day, they were just, sadly, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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 Maybe it was their fate, I don't know.

What about this?

The poor bastard he stabbed lived a life of misery until his death.

Hardly seems fair does it?

Fate?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60010155

I really believe things happen for a reason. Not always known, but eventually comes to light.

Magica wrote:

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I believe in fate. I remember back in the 70s, I was running for a bus to go to a pub. The bus drive off I was so angry. A short while later the IRA threw a bomb into the pub I would have been in if I hadn't missed the bus!

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 Johnny Rotten missed the Lockerbie flight because his wife had spent so long packing her suitcase.

They caught a later flight instead.

 

Vita wrote:

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 I would speak to the groom and tell him I know what he is doing, if he does this again, I will tell my friend. It would be a bluff. I would also tell the bridesmaid the same.

 I wouldn't tell her because she wouldn't thank me and I don't want to ruin her big day or her life. Once a cheat always a cheat.   All I can do is be there for her if she finds out.