ChaoticMusings

Date: Mar 9 4:49 PM, 2023

Simply incredible.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

"A Home Office spokesperson said: 'The number of people arriving in the UK who require accommodation has reached record levels and has put our asylum system under incredible strain."

The illegal immigrants coming here seeking asylum, the majority being fit and male, a good proportion coming from safe countries for economic reasons, should be turned round and sent back from whence they came.

Putting hundreds in hotels, in semi rural areas, where they can't work or earn money...even if they wanted to, is a bad idea.

We have no idea if they have criminal records, or what their intentions are. These illegals are getting the care, including all NHS services, that people who have paid into the system for decades are deprived of.

You ask if it's fair...is it hell.

Maddog · Go Outside

Here I thought this thread was about me.

On a more serious note, Biden, like Trump, will put folks on planes and fly them back home.

We will accept some refugees, but we get to decide if they are refugees.

Maddog · Go Outside

apnews.com/article/politics-mexico-immigration-af0643a4fb8f45388fe247e44c9b2c5e

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Our PM is in France today trying to get some agreement with France's PM in regard to the overwhelming number of illegals who come over here in small boats from France.
We already pay millions for their border control to stop them. According to the Times newspaper, Mr Sunak is set to agree to demands for payments that could total hundreds of millions of pounds.

A French representative has said the French people object to their taxes being spent on manning the French border to stop the people leaving.
They seem happy to pass the problem on to us, where we are paying untold amounts housing and caring for them.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-news-latest-rishi-sunak-in-france-to-press-emmanuel-macron-on-small-boat-crossings-as-prospect-of-returns-agreement-played-down-12593360

Maddog · Go Outside

I don't understand why folks can't be returned.

Afghans could be problematic, but other countries shouldn't be.

It's almost like much of Europe is paralyzed. These folks can be kicked out to another European country, but they can't be sent home?

I'm all for immigration, but it has to have some rules. Mad dashes across large bodies of water shouldn't guarantee anyone's right to live anywhere.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
I don't understand why folks can't be returned.

Afghans could be problematic, but other countries shouldn't be.

It's almost like much of Europe is paralyzed. These folks can be kicked out to another European country, but they can't be sent home?

I'm all for immigration, but it has to have some rules. Mad dashes across large bodies of water shouldn't guarantee anyone's right to live anywhere.

"The rights of asylum-seekers are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights."

The UK government this week introduced proposed legislation, its latest attempt to put a stop to migrant boats crossing the English Channel from France.

The problem is, the proposed legislation may not comply with international law.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I don't understand why folks can't be returned.

Afghans could be problematic, but other countries shouldn't be.

It's almost like much of Europe is paralyzed. These folks can be kicked out to another European country, but they can't be sent home?

I'm all for immigration, but it has to have some rules. Mad dashes across large bodies of water shouldn't guarantee anyone's right to live anywhere.
"The rights of asylum-seekers are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights."

The UK government this week introduced proposed legislation, its latest attempt to put a stop to migrant boats crossing the English Channel from France.
The problem is, the proposed legislation may not comply with international law.

Ah, this is why I'm not a fan of these multi national agreements that tie the hands of sovereign nations.

The US violates UN mandates all of the time (so does pretty much every country on the planet).

There comes a time when leaders of nations have to look out for their own people, in spite of international agreements signed in the past.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Our government is crap. Labour, will be worse when they get in. Too many bleeding hearts, but not for the people who are already living here and are struggling.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Whenever there is suffering or injustice...there are always others making a fortune from it.

"Private firms are making increased profits as the government pays millions of pounds a day to put up asylum seekers in the UK, the BBC has learned.

BBC News has been told 395 hotels are being used to house asylum seekers, as arrivals to the UK rose last year.

At the same time, documents show one booking agency, which finds hotels for the Home Office, trebled its pre-tax profits from £2.1m to £6.3m.

The Home Office says the asylum system is under "incredible strain".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64991234

Date: Mar 20 9:12 AM, 2023

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I don't understand why folks can't be returned.

Afghans could be problematic, but other countries shouldn't be.

It's almost like much of Europe is paralyzed. These folks can be kicked out to another European country, but they can't be sent home?

I'm all for immigration, but it has to have some rules. Mad dashes across large bodies of water shouldn't guarantee anyone's right to live anywhere.
"The rights of asylum-seekers are protected by the European Convention on Human Rights."

The UK government this week introduced proposed legislation, its latest attempt to put a stop to migrant boats crossing the English Channel from France.
The problem is, the proposed legislation may not comply with international law.

Ah, this is why I'm not a fan of these multi national agreements that tie the hands of sovereign nations.

The US violates UN mandates all of the time (so does pretty much every country on the planet).

There comes a time when leaders of nations have to look out for their own people, in spite of international agreements signed in the past.

The woke mob don't allow us to have leaders!

Date: Mar 25 11:41 AM, 2023

Maddog wrote:
Ah, this is why I'm not a fan of these multi national agreements that tie the hands of sovereign nations.

The US violates UN mandates all of the time (so does pretty much every country on the planet).

There comes a time when leaders of nations have to look out for their own people, in spite of international agreements signed in the past.

Have you heard of Andrew Napolitano. He is said to be a superior court judge among other things but he also claims to be linked with the Libertarian party and is hoping to help grow it.

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Ah, this is why I'm not a fan of these multi national agreements that tie the hands of sovereign nations.

The US violates UN mandates all of the time (so does pretty much every country on the planet).

There comes a time when leaders of nations have to look out for their own people, in spite of international agreements signed in the past.

Have you heard of Andrew Napolitano. He is said to be a superior court judge among other things but he also claims to be linked with the Libertarian party and is hoping to help grow it.

Sure I've heard of him.

He has libertarian beliefs, but I've never seen him at a libertarian function. He doesn't appear to have any role in the party.