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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

RE: Child found dead with multiple injuries as her father flees to Pakistan.

Digger · Admin

Anonymous wrote:
And so it begins...
"The father and stepmother of 10-year-old Sara Sharif are seeking permission to appeal against their sentences for her murder.
Court officials have confirmed to the BBC that Sharif, Batool and Malik have all lodged applications for leave to appeal against their sentences at the Court of Appeal.
In the cases of Sharif and Batool, the life sentence was automatic, so the pair are to appeal against the minimum terms they would spend in prison.
A hearing date for the appeals has not yet been set." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20k50klpv3o
It was expected, really. I mean, after all, the "father" claimed he "legally punished" Sara, so it must seem unfair to him to be punished at all. Either that or he doesn't like tuna.

There'll be some grasping lawyer behind all this waiting to make a packet.

Date: Jan 17 9:57 PM, 2025

It is the type of work Keir Starmer and Sadiq Khan would have gladly taken before they were elevated to more influential roles.

Vita · Know It All

The father sentence is being reviewed as unduly lenient.

Here's hoping he gets a whole life tariff.

Magica · Go Outside

Vita wrote:
The father sentence is being reviewed as unduly lenient.
Here's hoping he gets a whole life tariff.

I totally agree!

-- Edited by Magica on Monday 20th of January 2025 04:56:21 PM

Date: Jan 21 1:18 AM, 2025

Vita wrote:
The father sentence is being reviewed as unduly lenient.
Here's hoping he gets a whole life tariff.

"The Solicitor General has decided to appeal against the sentence passed on Sara Sharif's father as "unduly lenient."

Urfan Sharif, 43, was sentenced to life in prison following a trial at the Old Bailey last year - with a minimum of 40 years behind bars before he can be considered for parole.

But the solicitor general, Lucy Rigby, has referred Sharif's sentence to the Court of Appeal.

A spokesperson for the Attorney General's office said: "It is now for the court to decide whether to increase the sentence." " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05lnpe99mno

He and his wife should have gotten whole life tariffs from the onset...no ifs, buts or maybes they were found guilty fgs - would have saved all this nonsense.

Vita · Know It All

Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
The father sentence is being reviewed as unduly lenient.
Here's hoping he gets a whole life tariff.
I totally agree!

-- Edited by Magica on Monday 20th of January 2025 04:56:21 PM

It's hard to imagine a more sadistic murder so why he didn't get a whole life tariff is baffling.

Magica · Go Outside

Vita wrote:
Magica wrote:
Vita wrote:
The father sentence is being reviewed as unduly lenient.
Here's hoping he gets a whole life tariff.
I totally agree!

-- Edited by Magica on Monday 20th of January 2025 04:56:21 PM
It's hard to imagine a more sadistic murder so why he didn't get a whole life tariff is baffling.

They will get him in prison again. Life should mean life, carried out in a body bag!

Date: Jan 24 2:01 PM, 2025

“ Three judges who oversaw family court proceedings related to the care of Sara Sharif before she was murdered will be named next week, the Court of Appeal has ruled.

Mr Justice Williams ruled in December that the media could not name the judges involved in the historical family court cases related to the 10-year-old, as well as social workers and guardians, due to a "real risk" of harm from a "virtual lynch mob".

However, several media organisations, including the BBC, have successfully appealed against the decision, previously telling a hearing that the judges should be named in the interests of transparency.” … “ Following the convictions at the Old Bailey in December last year, details from previous family court proceedings could be published relating to Sara's care before her death.

This included that Surrey County Council (SCC) repeatedly raised "significant concerns" about the children returning to Sharif, "given the history of allegations of physical abuse of the children and domestic abuse with Mr Sharif as the perpetrator….” Documents released to the media showed that SCC first had contact with Sharif and Sara's mother, Olga Sharif, in 2010 – more than two years before Sara was born – having received "referrals indicative of neglect" relating to her two older siblings. The authority began care proceedings concerning the siblings in January 2013, involving Sara within a week of her birth.

Between 2013 and 2015, several allegations of abuse were made that were never tested in court. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz0l98x7830o

Truly mind boggling. The child never stood a chance. How many other cases did these so called judges preside over that led to harm?

I hope Sharif is still looking over his shoulder.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Whenever we hear about these cases, sadly too often, in the majority of cases it has been human error by making wrong decisions, or doing sod all, by the very people who should be overseeing the care of the vulnerable.

No doubt 'lessons will have been learned'...again.

Date: Feb 1 11:14 AM, 2025

“ Now the judges can be named, we can report that Judge Alison Raeside sat on the earliest hearings involving Sara, the last one, and most of the hearings in between.”

* Full article on BBC site…detailing dates, abuse etc *

In a judgment Mr Justice Williams said: "In this case the evidence suggests that social workers, guardians, lawyers and judiciary acted within the parameters that law and social work practice set for them.

"Certainly to my reasonably well-trained eye there is nothing (save the benefit of hindsight) which indicates that the decisions reached in 2013, 2015 or 2019 were unusual or unexpected."

"Based on what was known at the time and applying the law at the time I don't see the judge or anyone else having any real alternative option.” " https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd9qzn70nn8o

It also says “ On Friday, the highest ranking judge in England and Wales announced the formation of a "security task force" to assess how to better protect the safety of judges.

In a letter seen by the PA news agency, Chief Justice Baroness Carr said that incidents were "becoming all too common", and she was "increasingly concerned" about threats made to judges on social media.“

Quite rightly everyone deserves to do their jobs and stay safe however, reading case after case of judges getting it so wrong with abusers, particularly when it comes to kids, I can appreciate how angry some of the public get. I don’t condone violence but there are times when I can see why it happens. I just wish there was an effective “task force” safeguarding vulnerable people/kids because too many of these abusers are slipping the net with these agencies. Just look at the record of abuse this arsehole inflicted yet it was decided kids should still be left in his care.

Date: Mar 13 2:13 PM, 2025

"The father of Sara Sharif should have been given a whole life order for his daughter's murder, the Court of Appeal has been told.

Urfan Sharif, 43, and Beinash Batool, 30, were jailed for life in December, with minimum terms of 40 and 33 years respectively, after being found guilty of the 10-year-old's murder.

Sara's uncle, Faisal Malik, 29, was found guilty of causing or allowing her death and was jailed for 16 years. All three are seeking leave to appeal their sentences, but the Solicitor General wants Sharif's sentence increased.

At a hearing to consider all aspects of the sentences, Tom Little KC, for the Solicitor General, said Sara's murder was a rare case of such "exceptionally high seriousness" that it warranted a whole life order for Sharif.

Someone handed a life sentence can be released from prison on licence after serving a minimum term, but a whole life order means a person can never be released, except in exceptional compassionate circumstances.

Judges at the Court of Appeal are hearing the application on behalf of Lucy Rigby KC MP, who said Sharif's sentence of a minimum of 40 years was "unduly lenient". " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y03409me0o

"At the same hearing, Sharif, Batool and Malik appeared separately via video-link from prison.

Applicants must get permission or "leave" from a judge before an appeal against a sentence can be made.

Naeem Mian KC, for Sharif, argued that his client's existing life sentence with a minimum term of 40 years was "plainly manifestly excessive".

Mr Mian KC told the court that there could be little argument that this was a case that warranted a 30-year starting point, but that the course of conduct by Sharif after Sara's death did not warrant the sentence rising to 40 years.

For Batool, Caroline Carberry KC told the court her client's sentence was "not a just and proportionate sentence".

Ms Carberry KC said Batool's culpability was "significantly lower" than her husband's, and that the trial judge did not give significant weight to her "secondary role".

Michael Ivers KC, for Malik, suggested his sentence did not properly reflect the factual findings of the sentencing judge.

He said the judge sentenced Malik on the basis that he did not cause Sara's death, but rather failed to take reasonable steps to prevent it.

The hearing continues. "

Date: Mar 13 3:33 PM, 2025

APPEALS UPDATE https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq9ezl9kxqo

Just in...The murderers' appeals have been denied by the Court of Appeals.

That's made my day.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
APPEALS UPDATE https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq9ezl9kxqo
Just in...The murderers' appeals have been denied by the Court of Appeals.
That's made my day.

God knows how they imagined they could have any grounds to appeal.

Hopefully the two of them will die in prison.

Magica · Go Outside

I watched it yesterday, the judge went through all the injuries the poor girl had. I felt sick!

Knew they were not getting the appeal. Hope they rot!!!

Date: Mar 14 6:45 PM, 2025

Magica wrote:
I watched it yesterday, the judge went through all the injuries the poor girl had. I felt sick!

Knew they were not getting the appeal. Hope they rot!!!

Nice to have it official. i did hold a sliver of hope for a whole life order being imposed so was disappointed with that.

A bit more of jailhouse justice wouldn’t go amiss.

Magica · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Magica wrote:
I watched it yesterday, the judge went through all the injuries the poor girl had. I felt sick!

Knew they were not getting the appeal. Hope they rot!!!
Nice to have it official. i did hold a sliver of hope for a whole life order being imposed so was disappointed with that.
A bit more of jailhouse justice wouldn’t go amiss.

Yes I was.hoping she would give a whole life order too. A lot can happen in 40 yrs hopefully. 😈

No guarantee he will get out. I reckon they both will be in for life.