ChaoticMusings

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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The media have been investigating him, the police were not involved till recently.

Without investigative journalism, a lot of criminals would not face justice.

Maybe Brand will welcome police involvment. If he is charged and it's gets to court, he will have the opportunity to clear his name in court, rather than on Rumble.

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 I don't think people are supposed to want to go to court to clear their name.

 

I sure wouldn't. The mere accusation ruins your name. You can't unring some of these bells.

 

I guarantee you, millions will always think Russell is guilty no matter what happens in court. 

 

That's why it's an abuse of power to accuse people of something and drag them into court to prove their innocence..

-- Edited by Maddog on Tuesday 26th of September 2023 04:51:47 AM

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Whether a persons  alleged crimes have been splashed all over the news or not, if  the police have taken the accusations seriously enough to open an investigation,  surely a court where justice is seen to be done, is the best outcome.

 

Incidentally....as things stand at the moment, what do you think is the way forwards?

 

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 Plenty of investigations end without charges. The police are obligated to listen to folks, not rubber stamp all accusations and let them go to court.  

 

At this point the cops are doing what they are supposed to do. Brand is presumed innocent and should be as the investigation continues. If he he is charged, then, he should be treated differently, and of course if he is convicted, punished. 

 

Seems many have gone right to punishment..

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 Alternatively, if he has raped and sexually abused women in the past, he has had many years of freedom, whilst the women have had many years of trying to live with the trauma of being sexually violated.

 

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 And there is a system to deal with that. 

Let's follow it. 

Hopefully the police will give it due consideration. If they decide there is sufficient evidence and substance to the allegation(s) to take it to court then good.  If they decide there is insufficient evidence and substance to the allegation(s) not to take it to court, then good again.   As long as they give it due consideration as in any other case.  What more can we ask for ?

jackthelad wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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I agree....hopefully the police, then CPS will find it worthy of a court appearance.

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 You sound like you've found him guilty already.

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 Personally, I think he is guilty as sin.

Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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I agree....hopefully the police, then CPS will find it worthy of a court appearance.

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 Why do you hope it's worthy of a court appearance? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if they decide there is no need for a court appearance because there were no crimes committed?  

 

You have already decided he's guilty, and it's just a matter of if he gets away with it. 

 

That's why I said earlier that it makes no difference to millions what the authorities say. They have already found him guilty. 

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 If I had been accused by so many, as he has been, in his shoes (if I was innocent) I would definitely want to publicly clear my name. The only way to do that, (bar every woman admitting they  had lied) is in a court of law.

If it did go to court, we would hear both sides in detail.

As it is now, we have heard some of the women's versions in detail, seen Brand bragging and laughing about how he has raped women and had them gagging from oral sex, and seen recent videos of him whining his innocence and looking like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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I agree....hopefully the police, then CPS will find it worthy of a court appearance.

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 Why do you hope it's worthy of a court appearance? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if they decide there is no need for a court appearance because there were no crimes committed?  

 

You have already decided he's guilty, and it's just a matter of if he gets away with it. 

 

That's why I said earlier that it makes no difference to millions what the authorities say. They have already found him guilty. 

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 If I had been accused by so many, as he has been, in his shoes (if I was innocent) I would definitely want to publicly clear my name. The only way to do that, (bar every woman admitting they  had lied) is in a court of law.

If it did go to court, we would hear both sides in detail.

As it is now, we have heard some of the women's versions in detail, seen Brand bragging and laughing about how he has raped women and had them gagging from oral sex, and seen recent videos of him whining his innocence and looking like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

 

 

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 Your name is also cleared by the authorities not seeing enough evidence for a crime to even go to court.

His won't be if that happens, but that's how it's supposed to work.

You don't like Russell and that bias is leading you to want to punish him for being a whore dog, regardless of any actual criminal activity. 

Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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I agree....hopefully the police, then CPS will find it worthy of a court appearance.

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 Why do you hope it's worthy of a court appearance? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if they decide there is no need for a court appearance because there were no crimes committed?  

 

You have already decided he's guilty, and it's just a matter of if he gets away with it. 

 

That's why I said earlier that it makes no difference to millions what the authorities say. They have already found him guilty. 

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 If I had been accused by so many, as he has been, in his shoes (if I was innocent) I would definitely want to publicly clear my name. The only way to do that, (bar every woman admitting they  had lied) is in a court of law.

If it did go to court, we would hear both sides in detail.

As it is now, we have heard some of the women's versions in detail, seen Brand bragging and laughing about how he has raped women and had them gagging from oral sex, and seen recent videos of him whining his innocence and looking like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

 

 

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 Your name is also cleared by the authorities not seeing enough evidence for a crime to even go to court.

 

His won't be if that happens, but that's how it's supposed to work.

 

You don't like Russell and that bias is leading you to want to punish him for being a whore dog, regardless of any actual criminal activity. 

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 You are right....and you are wrong.

Right that I don't like Brand, could never stand his whining voice and his pathetic attempts to shock.

Wrong that I would like to see him punished just for being a 'whore dog'. He can shag around as much as he likes, as long as the women he is shagging are agreeable.

When it comes to rape, of forcing a kid half his age to have rough oral sex, that's what I would like to see him up in court for.

Did you see the programme where all this came out, have you heard the interview the (then) 16 year old gave?

That could be your daughter....would you be championing his cause then?

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 Or it could be one of my son in laws being punished without a trial. 

I don't need to see a program to know that there is a process that needs to be followed, so that people don't rush to judgement.

I don't see why you insist on refusing to let this play out. 

Google Tawana Brawley. 

There's a reason for the process.  

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It's not my fault he has been outed.
It is what it is, see what happens from now.

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 I can't stand the man.  Apparently the BBC is doing an hour programme on Monday.  Let's see what they have to say if it's about him.

Maddog wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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It's not my fault he has been outed.
It is what it is, see what happens from now.

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 I'm not blaming you for outing him. 

 

I'm pretty sure you has nothing to do with it and hadn't paid him any mind in years. 

 

And I agree let's see what happens. 

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