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RE: Climate Change yes or no?

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Two minutes... The reality of battery-electric trucks. Not little pickups but big long haul trucks.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Another two minute video explaining why you can't change the American truck fleet to electric.
The batteries weigh around the same as eight cars leaving not a lot of wiggle room to haul any goods.
Plus there is then the wear and tear and damage to infrastructure of roads and bridges to think about.
This guy explains trying to get permission to build a truck stop where maybe fifty trucks can sit for ten hours drawing power isn't possible.

Maddog · Go Outside

jackthelad wrote:
Another two minute video explaining why you can't change the American truck fleet to electric.
The batteries weigh around the same as eight cars leaving not a lot of wiggle room to haul any goods.
Plus there is then the wear and tear and damage to infrastructure of roads and bridges to think about.
This guy explains trying to get permission to build a truck stop where maybe fifty trucks can sit for ten hours drawing power isn't possible.

Yeah, e vehicles have to be very light outside of the batteries. There's no capacity left for carrying goods.

That's why the delivery boy running dogs won't ever be driving an e vehicle for work.

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

Michael Shellenberger: ‘CNN must now retract its garbage article & apologize for its central role in giving millions of children climate anxiety’ – ‘Al Gore should apologize for lying to billions of people about the Maldives’
www.climatedepot.com/2024/07/01/michael-shellenberger-cnn-must-now-retract-its-garbage-article-apologize-for-its-central-role-in-giving-millions-of-children-climate-anxiety-al-gore-should-apologize-for-lying-to-billions-o/

Date: Jul 3 1:46 AM, 2024

Electric batteries for scooters, bicycles, cars are becoming a major cause of fires in homes and container ships.

Date: Jul 3 1:57 AM, 2024

I wonder when people will be allowed to question m-RNA injections as a method to combat viral infections. Lots of healthy athletes keeling over and dying of heart failure. The narrative in the following article is a criticism of the Chinese for being too slow in getting paramedics to the athlete in time. It is not considered as part of the rise of "sudden death syndrome" in the otherwise healthy and young following the mandated m-RNA injections of the healthy and young.

ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd19xnxdvlko

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

Anonymous wrote:
I wonder when people will be allowed to question m-RNA injections as a method to combat viral infections. Lots of healthy athletes keeling over and dying of heart failure. The narrative in the following article is a criticism of the Chinese for being too slow in getting paramedics to the athlete in time. It is not considered as part of the rise of "sudden death syndrome" in the otherwise healthy and young following the mandated m-RNA injections of the healthy and young.
ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd19xnxdvlko

Not sure if I'm up to date with this but trying to get the unexplained sudden death syndrome debated in parliament as an urgent medical problem has been refused time and again.

Date: Jul 3 3:06 PM, 2024

Yes or no? Can’t definitively answer that, because I’m still on the fence as to whether it’s a cyclical phenomenon or whether it’s we humans who are decimating the world we inhabit.

I can only reply anecdotally, really. But I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, the climate certainly has radically changed in my part of the world. In all the years I’ve lived here, I’ve never seen such cold winters as those of the last 5 years. Temperatures plummet around the first week of October Alarmingly, winters are MUCH drier and can last right into early to mid-May - not UK cold, tbf, but still cold!! And when the wind blows out here, it can knock you sideways

Date: Jul 3 9:35 PM, 2024

I didn't know there was a twister emoji.

The problem is that once a subject becomes politicized it remains politicized. Climate Change has become politicized meaning it is no longer a "science" it is now a branch of politics. There has been so much nonsense written about "Climate Change" that it is difficult to know where to begin except to note it has been politicized.

In the past when there were hot periods people would talk about El Nino and changes in the jet stream. Nowadays they talk about Climate Change and the need to "stop oil", "stop meat eating" etc.

The BBC has been one of the biggest movers in pushing the stop oil / stop eating meat agenda - and yet every day they are also push international travel to exotic locations, not too crowded, great local delicacies - travel that appeals to the wealthy, the middle classes and the aspirational BBC employee.

Date: Jul 4 7:41 AM, 2024

Vam wrote:
Yes or no? Can’t definitively answer that, because I’m still on the fence as to whether it’s a cyclical phenomenon or whether it’s we humans who are decimating the world we inhabit.

The partial destruction of the ozone layer linked to CFC emissions was a good example of that.

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

"Science died in the 1980s... and now we have dogma."
twitter.com/ABridgen/status/1813889177962115195%3D%3D&refsrc=email

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

Brilliant speech.

Konstantin Kisin talking to the Woke about Climate Change

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

Electricity can't be stored, so when I turn on a light, the power station must immediately produce some extra electricity. How is this possible? From an engineering perspective, how are power stations designed to handle continually varying loads?

Electricity can of course be stored in batteries but there are few of the worlds largest batteries that can hold more than enough power to supply energy to a very very small village for more than three days.

First of all, the electricity you use in your house doesn’t “Come from a power station”.

It comes from a transformer located maybe 300 feet from your house. Either up on a pole, or sitting on a pad.

The power that transformer gets doesn’t come from a power station either.

It comes from a substation.

And maybe that substation gets it from a power station, and maybe not. It MIGHT get it from a larger substation miles and miles away that gets it from the power station.

The voltage you use in your house is MUCH too small to be useful for travelling long distances.

To send a standard 120/240-volt power supply several miles, you’ have to have an insanely large conductor and shove an insanely large amperage through it to overcome conductor resistance.

So power companies get around this by cranking up the voltages to insane levels.

The higher the voltage, the lower the amperage needed.

Double the voltage, cut the amperage in half. Which also reduces the conductor size required.

Electricity is generated at the power plant, then the voltage is cranked way up for long-distance transmission, using special high-voltage transformers. And that’s as far as the electricity generated at the power plant goes. It goes from the generator, to buck/boost transformers at the transmission station, and back to the power plant.

The electricity in the transformers from the power plant induces an electrical current on the other side of the transformer, and is sent out on the transmission lines.

Near the customer, it goes to a substation where the voltage is decreased to a manageable level, usually arounds 13,000 volts.

Once again, the high-voltage transmission current does not go past the local substation transformers. it induces and electric current, that travels through distribution lines to the transformer near your house.

The 13,000 volts on the “High-voltage” side of the transformer near your house induces a voltage on the low voltage side of 120/240 volts.

And that’s what goes to your house. It just makes a loop from the transformer to your house, and back to the transformer.

The additional load on your transformer when you turn on a light is so negligible, a meter put on the high-voltage side of the transformer would not be able to measure that added load.

It might put an additional 1/100th of an amp load on the transformer.

A whole city turning lights and stoves and TV’s on at night DOES put a significant additional load on the grid.

But power companies know this, and put additional generators online in anticipation of this additional load.

Coal has now been abandoned in the uk for energy production so how do we turn up supply to meet intermittent demand>

You can't turn up the wind or the sunshine so what we now have to do is ration electricity... is this what was advertised for the 21st century?

But power companies know this, and put additional generators online in anticipation of this additional load.

Any of you who think a modern industrial society can survive and even thrive on wind and sunshine must believe in unicorns!

Date: Oct 23 9:48 AM, 2024

jackb wrote:
Electricity can't be stored, so when I turn on a light, the power station must immediately produce some extra electricity...
...
Any of you who think a modern industrial society can survive and even thrive on wind and sunshine must believe in unicorns!

Bit in black - not so, energy can be stored, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_energy_storage_system

Last bit - there are additional fossil-free sources that can be used to produce reserve power if the frequency on the grid drops, including

hydrogen

renewable natural gas

nuclear

hydro-electric

the previously mentioned battery storage

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

Anonymous wrote:
jackb wrote:
Electricity can't be stored, so when I turn on a light, the power station must immediately produce some extra electricity...
...
Any of you who think a modern industrial society can survive and even thrive on wind and sunshine must believe in unicorns!
Bit in black - not so, energy can be stored, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_energy_storage_system

Last bit - there are additional fossil-free sources that can be used to produce reserve power if the frequency on the grid drops, including
hydrogen
renewable natural gas
nuclear
hydro-electric
the previously mentioned battery storage

Yes we have electric mountain here in N Wales.

Unfortunately we don't have enough back up which is why the power companies have been telling us for some time now that electricity will now and in the future be rationed.

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

The age of energy rationing is looming for Britain
UK warned of blackout risk as nuclear power shrivels and Ed Miliband races towards net zero

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/13/why-age-of-energy-rationing-is-looming-for-britain/

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Back to the 70's, power cuts and rationing....we seem to be going backwards not forwards.

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

All these wind generators and solar panels and not very much electricity
generated the last couple of weeks.
Very little sunshine up until today and virtually no wind for a couple of weeks.
This is a very intermittent supply.
People think generating electricity is the important part but it isn't.
Controlling the energy created is the key to it all.
Power consumption drops you turn down or off a furnace or two at a coal fired plant... energy demand about to rise fire up more furnaces!
You can't do that with sunshine and the breeze.
So there's a loss of control over the most important part of power generation.
The last couple of weeks wind power has been running at around 3% of what it can produce.
The UK can't possibly compete with a coal fired Asia.
We need to accept nuclear is the way to go but we don't have the money to build it!

Date: Nov 8 5:29 AM, 2024

jackb wrote:
All these wind generators and solar panels and not very much electricity
generated the last couple of weeks.
Very little sunshine up until today and virtually no wind for a couple of weeks.
This is a very intermittent supply.
People think generating electricity is the important part but it isn't.
Controlling the energy created is the key to it all.
Power consumption drops you turn down or off a furnace or two at a coal fired plant... energy demand about to rise fire up more furnaces!
You can't do that with sunshine and the breeze.
So there's a loss of control over the most important part of power generation.
The last couple of weeks wind power has been running at around 3% of what it can produce.
The UK can't possibly compete with a coal fired Asia.
We need to accept nuclear is the way to go but we don't have the money to build it!

There are some interesting plans afoot for an extra supply of power when demand outstrips generation - there's a massive amount of power held in the nation's EV batteries which can be sold back to the Grid. A typical EV battery holds enough energy to provide the needs of an average home for two days.

Mind you - as someone who constantly bangs on as you do with your anti-renewable energy, anti-EV, climate change denial, pro-fossil fuel etc agenda, I'm sure you won't be impressed. Meanwhile keep burning your coal!

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/families-could-use-electric-vehicle-batteries-to-power-homes-and-save-on-bills-as-government-backs-new-charging-technologies

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Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Konstantin Kisin talking to the Woke about Climate Change

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.

Machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time. But now that it's the opposite it's twice upon a time.