ChaoticMusings

Date: Sep 24 11:51 PM, 2023

RE: The end of Europe?

Date: Sep 24 11:55 PM, 2023

jackthelad wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.

Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.

However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..

Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
Don't know about forty years I'm thinking on a much shorter time frame as within the next 12 months.
I don't mean the end of Europe in 12 months but utter chaos and civil unrest.
The German economy right now is tanking.
German companies are leaving and heading to Asia... notice not America.
The power and the money and the future are not in America.
We have an energy crisis in Europe partly because of investing shit loads of money in windmills.
We have a migrant crisis in Europe.
We have a major war raging in Europe.
We have the sexualisation of our children and their education.
We have farms being forcibly closed and grabbed by governments.
We have hundreds of thousands of cattle being slaughtered not to be replaced.
At the same time as a cost of living crisis.
There is no way to avoid massive food price hikes and shortages.
It's like some kind of asylum!
There's chaos in Italy a political crisis in France Poland building up for war.
That's without any unforeseen problems appearing.
No guest it's not doom and gloom it's what's on the news everyday just now and many
commentators are saying the fabric isn't strong enough to survive this amount of stress.

-- Edited by jackthelad on Sunday 24th of September 2023 10:02:13 PM
Bumped for guest.

How is that the fault of Muslims?
No one suggested it's the fault of Muslims.

Quoting posts about Muslim immigrants tends to imply it. I've lost count of how many thought threads are going on in this topic.

Digger · Admin

Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.

Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.

However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..

Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
There are all sorts of problems out there. One of the biggest is the declining European birth rate.

Your welfare states are predicted on the number of folks working growing at the same rate as retirees.

You need more babies, fewer old people, or immigrants.

Now, I do think you are way too generous to many of your immigrants. The ability to stay in your country should be earned by hard fucking work.

In fairness to the immigrants, they are not allowed to work here if they come illegally. Most of them have been fed a false dream. The UK is not as easy a place to live as some might think because our cost of living is high, housing and rentals are unaffordable for many, and the NHS is broken. The Government won't house these people forever in 4 star hotels. Eventually, they will have to find work or get out.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Or simply disappear into the ether.
I remember decades ago Jack Straw saying the government could count how many enter, but they had trouble counting how many leave.
This was way before we had the sort of immigration problems we have now.

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Maddog wrote:
I think you'll find that 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants act much different than first generation immigrants.

Obviously, some of the current immigrants can be problematic and set in the ways of where they came from.

However, their kids, and their kids kids, want to fit in more to the society they were born into..

Americans are sorta experts on this. We no doubt have had battles over immigrants and treated some like shit, but given time we tend to melt together pretty well.
Time will tell. Judging by the state of the world and the way it's going, I'm glad I won't be here in 40 years' time.
There are all sorts of problems out there. One of the biggest is the declining European birth rate.

Your welfare states are predicted on the number of folks working growing at the same rate as retirees.

You need more babies, fewer old people, or immigrants.

Now, I do think you are way too generous to many of your immigrants. The ability to stay in your country should be earned by hard fucking work.
In fairness to the immigrants, they are not allowed to work here if they come illegally. Most of them have been fed a false dream. The UK is not as easy a place to live as some might think because our cost of living is high, housing and rentals are unaffordable for many, and the NHS is broken. The Government won't house these people forever in 4 star hotels. Eventually, they will have to find work or get out.

Many of ours can't legally work either, but they do anyway..

It is silly to allow a man to stay in a country on the tax payers dime, while preventing him from working..

Immigration is problem created largely by politicians pandering for votes..

It's one of those problems that is to be used and perpetuated, not solved

.

Digger · Admin

500 Nigerian immigrant nurses working in the UK were found to have faked their qualifications. The NHS found this out in May 2023. 500. Someone else sat their exams for them. I find that outrageous yet typical of our soft weak country and Government. How many more? I'll bet more than you can shake a fucking stick at.

-- Edited by Digger on Monday 25th of September 2023 07:45:05 PM

Digger · Admin

Does anyone really believe that all this sudden massive migration is accidental? Just one of those things?

Digger · Admin

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Magica · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
Does anyone really believe that all this sudden massive migration is accidental? Just one of those things?

Very true. I've said for ages there's an agenda, all young men. I feel a revolution or civil war could be on the cards in years to come.

Digger · Admin

There's been al lot of this all over Twitter. The other day there was video of a migrant masturbating in the street. I'm not sure if this is the UK or Germany. But wherever it is it's on the increase. It's too easy to say they've all got mental health issues. There's footage of them shitting in the streets. Imagine sitting next to this? I'm afraid I'd have had a screeching fit at him. There could have been kids on there.

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jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Magica wrote:
Digger wrote:
Does anyone really believe that all this sudden massive migration is accidental? Just one of those things?

Very true. I've said for ages there's an agenda, all young men. I feel a revolution or civil war could be on the cards in years to come.

You all keep projecting into some distant future where you won't be affected... in years to come... in forty years... how about this shit has been going on already for so long and everything is getting so intense that it is now imminent?

In years to come and forty years down the line all those young male immigrants will be old men.

The economic woes the energy crisis the current war in Europe the environmental emergency lies will all be history and would have died out without achieving anyones agendas!

Practice the word imminent folks and just around the corner and now.

How about oh shit!

Magica · Go Outside

In years to come, I'm speaking next ten yrs, maybe less. It's all building, something's got to give.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Magica wrote:
In years to come, I'm speaking next ten yrs, maybe less. It's all building, something's got to give.

I'm talking now Mags because of what's happening right now.

I give it a year at most.

Digger · Admin

jackthelad wrote:
Magica wrote:
In years to come, I'm speaking next ten yrs, maybe less. It's all building, something's got to give.
I'm talking now Mags because of what's happening right now.
I give it a year at most.

The people will rise up in rebellion maybe.

Date: Sep 25 11:15 PM, 2023

jackthelad wrote:
Magica wrote:
In years to come, I'm speaking next ten yrs, maybe less. It's all building, something's got to give.
I'm talking now Mags because of what's happening right now.
I give it a year at most.

This time next year we'll be millionaires .......

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Digger wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Magica wrote:
In years to come, I'm speaking next ten yrs, maybe less. It's all building, something's got to give.
I'm talking now Mags because of what's happening right now.
I give it a year at most.
The people will rise up in rebellion maybe.

Not a chance but civil unrest on an ever growing ever alarming scale and all engineered watch this space... 3.2.1. ....

People seem to be waiting for some kind of event some kind of defining moment one day... I think those people are missing the defining moments and the defining days that have well past and we're now just waiting for the explosion!

-- Edited by jackthelad on Monday 25th of September 2023 11:25:41 PM

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

jackthelad wrote:
Digger wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Magica wrote:
In years to come, I'm speaking next ten yrs, maybe less. It's all building, something's got to give.
I'm talking now Mags because of what's happening right now.
I give it a year at most.
The people will rise up in rebellion maybe.
Not a chance but civil unrest on an ever growing ever alarming scale and all engineered watch this space... 3.2.1. ....
People seem to be waiting for some kind of event some kind of defining moment one day... I think those people are missing the defining moments and the defining days that have well past and we're now just waiting for the explosion!

-- Edited by jackthelad on Monday 25th of September 2023 11:25:41 PM

Remember those very harrowing scenes in a crazy London

a few years ago that had gone mad with people rioting?

with buildings being burnt down businesses being destroyed that had been there for generations?

Remember how upsetting those scenes were and how angry and upset you felt?

I can't even remember what it was about

and I certainly don't remember any the day before warning signs.

All the day before signs for the coming chaos have already been taking place so I'm betting my timeline is closer

than everyone else's who want to put it off to some future distant safeness.

It's now.

Digger · Admin

Sweden - Integration failure. 28th September 2023.

STOCKHOLM (AP) — Sweden’s prime minister on Thursday said that he’s summoned the head of the military to discuss how the armed forces can help police deal with an unprecedented crime wave that has shocked the country with almost daily shootings and bombings.

Getting the military involved in crime-fighting would be a highly unusual step for Sweden, underscoring the severity of the gang violence that has claimed a dozen lives across the country this month, including teenagers and innocent bystanders.

Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson said that he would meet with the armed forces’ supreme commander and the national police commissioner on Friday to explore “how the armed forces can help police in their work against the criminal gangs.”

It wasn’t immediately clear in what capacity the military would get involved, but previous proposals have focused on soldiers taking over protection duties from police to free up more resources for crime-fighting.

“Sweden has never before seen anything like this,” Kristersson said in a televised speech to the nation. “No other country in Europe is seeing anything like this.”

Sweden has grappled with gang violence for years, but the surge in shootings and bombings in September has been exceptional. Three people were killed overnight in separate attacks with suspected links to criminal gangs, which often recruit teenagers in socially disadvantaged immigrant neighborhoods to carry out hits.

One of the victims was a woman in her 20s who died in an explosion in Uppsala, north of Stockholm. Swedish media said she was likely not the intended target of the attack.

Newspaper Dagens Nyheter said an 18-year-old rapper was killed late Wednesday in a shooting outside a sports complex on the outskirts of Stockholm.

More than 60 people died in shootings last year in Sweden, the highest figure on record. This year is on track to be the same or worse. Swedish media have linked the latest surge in violence to a feud between rival factions of a criminal gang known as the Foxtrot network.

Sweden long stood out in Europe along with Germany for having liberal immigration policies and welcoming hundreds of thousands of asylum-seekers from the Middle East and Africa. Sweden has since sharply restricted migration levels, citing rising crime levels and other social problems.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Well they aren't looking forty years down the line or ten!
In London the Turkish have long taken over the heroin trade but Afghanis and Pakistanis are trying too take it from them... how long before mayhem.
I never thought I'd be the guy saying stick millions of them on Boats and sail them off to wherever to preserve some kind of decency in the UK.

Date: Sep 29 10:50 AM, 2023

It has been said that the mass migration from certain countries is to a large extent a consequence of US-British-Western-NATO interference in various countries either militarily or through crippling trade sanctions (using the dollarized global trade system) or both.

When US-Britain-NATO bombed the bejesus out of Libya resulting in the destruction of Ghaddafi and his government, Libya was left in chaos, and fell into three regions controlled by different jihadi groups. The standard of living in Libya dropped precipitously and Libya then became a major route for trans-Saharan migration into the West - highly profitable to the jihadis. The West were happy as they had access to Libyan oil.