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"Prisons are under "huge pressure", a Government minister admitted on Thursday, following reports that judges have been told not to send some rapists and burglars to jail because they are full.

Health Secretary Steve Barclay refused to confirm or deny reports that courts would not be able to jail convicted criminals due to prisons nearing capacity."

 

He told Sky News: "It's a longstanding convention ministers don't comment on leaks. The Lord Chancellor will make a statement to Parliament on Monday."

But he said that jails are "under huge pressure", and that is the case in "many countries", adding it is due to the Government ensuring prisoners are in jail "for longer" and because of "pressures as a result of Covid".

"Those spared being put behind bars could include convicts found guilty of burglary and rape, the newspaper said.

It quoted an anonymous senior judge as saying that they had been “ordered/strongly encouraged” during a meeting not to send to jail a defendant who appears before them on bail due to concerns that cells are at capacity."

 

Minister admits prisons under ‘huge pressure’ amid reports burglars and rapists will avoid jail (msn.com)

 



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The fight for women's rights, which started with the Suffragette movement 120 years ago, seems to have gone backwards since then

We may have won the right to vote, but we can be attacked and raped with less chance of the attacker facing justice...and some would even try to erase the very state of womanhood altogether.

I fear for the youth of today....the diminishment of women won't make the men stronger, just confused.

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Disgusting imo. Rapists should be imprisoned, not on bail to strike again. Women, children will not be safe anymore. It seems to me women and children are pushed further down the line now. I'm disgusted!

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It was the same in the 70's which eventually led to the Strangeways riots.
4 to a cell a cell designed for one man to have a bad time in.
Funny thing is Holland have been closing their nicks down and making prison staff redundant.
Spain and Portugal are starting to look like they may well be following suit soon.



-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 12th of October 2023 02:25:58 PM

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Does this mean rapists can be castrated or murdered by their victims without fear of jail?

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Digger wrote:

Does this mean rapists can be castrated or murdered by their victims without fear of jail?

 Good point but if a victim fights back these days then the victim becomes the criminal!



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jackthelad wrote:
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Does this mean rapists can be castrated or murdered by their victims without fear of jail?

 Good point but if a victim fights back these days then the victim becomes the criminal!

 I'm sure most people would agree that castrating a rapist is worth doing time for.



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I would never blame anyone for taking revenge (getting justice) in cases of rape, if the judicial system failed them.
Problem is vigilante justice sometimes gets it wrong.

I suppose that will be the price society pays if serious criminals are left to roam freely.

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I suppose that will be the price society pays if serious criminals are left to roam freely.

 Which is looking more and more likely when those in positions of power and influence advise don't lock people up.

It looks to me like our modern world is beginning to crumble.

Without law and order we have nothing really.

 



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jackthelad wrote:
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I suppose that will be the price society pays if serious criminals are left to roam freely.

 Which is looking more and more likely when those in positions of power and influence advise don't lock people up.

It looks to me like our modern world is beginning to crumble.

Without law and order we have nothing really.

 

 I can understand vigilante groups tbh, I know if someone hurt someone I loved, and the law did nothing about it, I would want to do something myself.

In fact, in the past, that has been the case....and it felt right.

The problem arises when vigilantes are too gung-ho, or pick on the wrong person, or are simply stupid, which sadly, many people are.



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