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jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Is Democracy Dead or just Dying?

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

David Cameron has now been made home secretary.
A very powerful position but he's not even in government so he was made a lord to get around that little problem.
Unelected inserted prime minister.
Unelected inserted home secretary.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Rishi Sunak former Goldman Sachs banker and purposes to lead Britain into
a central bank digital currency.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

This video gives a lot to think about and obviously a lot to look into.

Digger · Admin

They seem to think they are a law unto themselves now. It's up to the people to vote them out.

Maddog · Go Outside

Sometimes I'm not sure democracy is such a good idea.

Think how dumb the average voter is. Then remember half of them are dumber than that.

That's how we democratically chose Trump and Biden as two of our 4 candidates on the ballot, and wound up with 95% of the voters choosing one or the other in the general election.

Democracy forces me to be subject to these idiots.

That being said, I still don't have a better option, except to limit the amount of influence these democratically elected idiots have in my life.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Maddog wrote:
Sometimes I'm not sure democracy is such a good idea.

Think how dumb the average voter is. Then remember half of them are dumber than that.

That's how we democratically chose Trump and Biden as two of our 4 candidates on the ballot, and wound up with 95% of the voters choosing one or the other in the general election.

Democracy forces me to be subject to these idiots.

That being said, I still don't have a better option, except to limit the amount of influence these democratically elected idiots have in my life.

I understand that.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Our saviours have arrived... not.
All this will do is split the votes meaning we're ever more likely to get another coalition government.
I just hope the Tories are no part of it.
New political party to try and ‘transform’ democracy – amid Labour disarray on Gaza

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2023/11/23/new-political-party-to-try-and-transform-democracy-amid-labour-disarray-on-gaza/

-- Edited by jackthelad on Saturday 25th of November 2023 07:40:20 PM

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2023/11/23/new-political-party-to-try-and-transform-democracy-amid-labour-disarray-on-gaza/

-- Edited by Syl on Saturday 25th of November 2023 07:43:38 PM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Sometimes I'm not sure democracy is such a good idea.

Think how dumb the average voter is. Then remember half of them are dumber than that.

That's how we democratically chose Trump and Biden as two of our 4 candidates on the ballot, and wound up with 95% of the voters choosing one or the other in the general election.

Democracy forces me to be subject to these idiots.

That being said, I still don't have a better option, except to limit the amount of influence these democratically elected idiots have in my life.

The same applies to jurors.

Some of the idiots who I know have served on a jury, cant decide what to wear in the morning.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

jackthelad wrote:
I give up.

Why David Cameron Is Unfit To Be Foreign Secretary

Date: Nov 27 12:49 AM, 2023

Maddog wrote:
Sometimes I'm not sure democracy is such a good idea.

Think how dumb the average voter is. Then remember half of them are dumber than that.

That's how we democratically chose Trump and Biden as two of our 4 candidates on the ballot, and wound up with 95% of the voters choosing one or the other in the general election.

Democracy forces me to be subject to these idiots.

That being said, I still don't have a better option, except to limit the amount of influence these democratically elected idiots have in my life.

Imagining people that vote for someone you would not choose as idiots, dumb or worse reduces them to "sub-human" in the imagination - incapable of rational thought et cetera. That is the first step to the acceptance of very nasty things being done to these people.

As an impartial observer from Britain all I noted was the absolute hysterical reporting by mainstream media when Donald Trump announced himself as candidate for the 2016 Presidential election. Then I saw in America via youtube American teachers getting their children to scream and run when someone said Donald Trump was in the building. When Donald Trump won I read opinion pieces by Academics in SOAS University of London and elsewhere saying how they couldn't teach their university students because of the absolute horror of Donald Trump being elected. And it went on and on and has gone on even in this Biden Administration.

Give the people unbiased unemotive fact based reporting focusing on policies rather than hearsay and decontextualized private chatter.

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Sometimes I'm not sure democracy is such a good idea.

Think how dumb the average voter is. Then remember half of them are dumber than that.

That's how we democratically chose Trump and Biden as two of our 4 candidates on the ballot, and wound up with 95% of the voters choosing one or the other in the general election.

Democracy forces me to be subject to these idiots.

That being said, I still don't have a better option, except to limit the amount of influence these democratically elected idiots have in my life.
Imagining people that vote for someone you would not choose as idiots, dumb or worse reduces them to "sub-human" in the imagination - incapable of rational thought et cetera. That is the first step to the acceptance of very nasty things being done to these people.
As an impartial observer from Britain all I noted was the absolute hysterical reporting by mainstream media when Donald Trump announced himself as candidate for the 2016 Presidential election. Then I saw in America via youtube American teachers getting their children to scream and run when someone said Donald Trump was in the building. When Donald Trump won I read opinion pieces by Academics in SOAS University of London and elsewhere saying how they couldn't teach their university students because of the absolute horror of Donald Trump being elected. And it went on and on and has gone on even in this Biden Administration.
Give the people unbiased unemotive fact based reporting focusing on policies rather than hearsay and decontextualized private chatter.

We have plenty of empirical data demonstrating how poorly informed the typical person is.

That doesn't make them sub human, but it does make them poor decision makers in the democracy process..

But as I said, there is no better idea out there. Leaders must be accountable to the whims of those who are being led.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Churchill said... “Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Churchill again... The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Maddog · Go Outside

jackthelad wrote:
Churchill said... “Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”

Didn't he also say its a bit like making sausage? You don't really want to see what goes into it, behind the scenes.

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Maddog wrote:
jackthelad wrote:
Churchill said... “Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”
Didn't he also say its a bit like making sausage? You don't really want to see what goes into it, behind the scenes.

I Googled it and got... Otto von Bismarck (1815-1898)

Date: Nov 28 3:51 AM, 2023

Maddog wrote:
We have plenty of empirical data demonstrating how poorly informed the typical person is.

... it make(s) them poor decision makers in the democracy process..

Would listening to CNN make the typical American well informed? What should the typical American listen to and read to make them well informed?

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
We have plenty of empirical data demonstrating how poorly informed the typical person is.

... it make(s) them poor decision makers in the democracy process..

Would listening to CNN make the typical American well informed? What should the typical American listen to and read to make them well informed?

They have to value being informed on the topic.

How do they know all about who Taylor Swift is dating, yet can't name either of their senators?

I think it's more than watching the news.

I don't watch CNN, but I'm very well informed.

I don't watch any cable news, to be honest, but I read all sorts of sources..

Maddog · Go Outside

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."

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