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Maddog · Go Outside

RE: The NHS.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

We Brits can be a moaning lot, especially Brits on forums.

However, when we stop moaning, according to that chart, only 8% of Brits think our health care system is "the worst, or one of the worst in the world"
Whereas 26% of Americans think there's is.

and

34% Americans think their system is the best...whilst 54% of us Brits think ours is.

So when you said "Americans are far happier on average with their Healthcare than Brits", those figures would dispute that.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
We Brits can be a moaning lot, especially Brits on forums.

However, when we stop moaning, according to that chart, only 8% of Brits think our health care system is "the worst, or one of the worst in the world"
Whereas 26% of Americans think there's is.

and

34% Americans think their system is the best...whilst 54% of us Brits think ours is.

So when you said "Americans are far happier on average with their Healthcare than Brits", those figures would dispute that.

When I say "their healthcare" I mean the care they receive.

There are a lot of Americans who think others are not getting the same care. They are subject to the same political pandering as Brits.

I'd also not put much stock in anyone on either side of the pond that thinks either system is the best or the worst in the world. They don't sound very bright.

A better question is are they satisfied with the care they are receiving from their doctors?

If so, trying to determine who has the best or worst system is a bit silly..

Maddog · Go Outside

We're weird. We think the system sucks, yet we think it provides us excellent or good care.

What we think of the system is very political.

How we are treated as an individual when we need it, is personal.

If you notice, the oldest in America (those getting the most care) are the happiest. About the way the system works..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
We Brits can be a moaning lot, especially Brits on forums.

However, when we stop moaning, according to that chart, only 8% of Brits think our health care system is "the worst, or one of the worst in the world"
Whereas 26% of Americans think there's is.

and

34% Americans think their system is the best...whilst 54% of us Brits think ours is.

So when you said "Americans are far happier on average with their Healthcare than Brits", those figures would dispute that.

When I say "their healthcare" I mean the care they receive.

There are a lot of Americans who think others are not getting the same care. They are subject to the same political pandering as Brits.

I'd also not put much stock in anyone on either side of the pond that thinks either system is the best or the worst in the world. They don't sound very bright.

A better question is are they satisfied with the care they are receiving from their doctors?

If so, trying to determine who has the best or worst system is a bit silly..

Well, you started it.

Digger · Admin

The NHS is taking a beating right now for sexual abuse in the workplace.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
We Brits can be a moaning lot, especially Brits on forums.

However, when we stop moaning, according to that chart, only 8% of Brits think our health care system is "the worst, or one of the worst in the world"
Whereas 26% of Americans think there's is.

and

34% Americans think their system is the best...whilst 54% of us Brits think ours is.

So when you said "Americans are far happier on average with their Healthcare than Brits", those figures would dispute that.

When I say "their healthcare" I mean the care they receive.

There are a lot of Americans who think others are not getting the same care. They are subject to the same political pandering as Brits.

I'd also not put much stock in anyone on either side of the pond that thinks either system is the best or the worst in the world. They don't sound very bright.

A better question is are they satisfied with the care they are receiving from their doctors?

If so, trying to determine who has the best or worst system is a bit silly..
Well, you started it.

I never said anyone was the worst or the best. No need to pick either extreme.

I imagine Afghanistan is the worst.

Some say Singapore is the best. I do know that when the systems are ranked by various criteria, neither of our countrys come out on top. Of course its difficult to rank systems anyway..

I have always said ours is faster, yet more expensive.

And it can screw over those that attempt to save a few bucks by not buying insurance..

But for most folks, it works well and it works faster than most other systems..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.

Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.

And the private hospital that got you in and out so fast.😉

Hopefully you heal quickly so you can quickly read all of my erudite posts..😎

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.
And the private hospital that got you in and out so fast.😉

Hopefully you heal quickly so you can quickly read all of my erudite posts..😎

Yep, a private hospital provided by the NHS.

Don't worry, my one clear eye (at the moment) isn't missing anything.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.
And the private hospital that got you in and out so fast.😉

Hopefully you heal quickly so you can quickly read all of my erudite posts..😎
Yep, a private hospital provided by the NHS.

Don't worry, my one clear eye (at the moment) isn't missing anything.

The private hospital would exist without the existence of the NHS.

The services provided by the hospital were paid by your insurer, which was the NHS in this case.

I'm glad it worked out well for you. I'm not remotely surprised though. 😎

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

Seems not everyone wants to be American....

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Kitty Juniper
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Australian since before the Gold Rush.Sun
Should we Americans allow Australia to be a part of the USA?
“Allow” !?

Honey, you couldn’t pay us to join that disaster.

Australians like our freedom. We like our country schools where the fences are little things an adult could step over, if there’s even a fence at all. We like sending our kids to school and knowing nobody’s going to shoot them in the classroom. We like going shopping and knowing that nobody’s going to shoot us in the shopping centre. We like eating food and knowing no corporation has added poisons and carcinogens to it to make it more shelf-stable or more addicting.

We like being able to collect the rainwater off our own roof and not being told we’re not allowed because our own roof water doesn’t belong to us. We like being allowed to put a vegetable garden in our front yard if we so choose without a HOA walking in and telling us we can’t do that on our own land.

We like owning our own bodies. Our sex education in school is pretty good and we have good access to contraceptives, but if an unwanted pregnancy is going to ruin a student’s career or if a wanted pregnancy goes wrong and looks like it might kill the mother, we don’t have to deal with politicians trying to take away our very basic human freedom to decide how our bodies will and will not be used by others.

We like our freedom to get medical care as needed. Nobody wants cancer or diabetes, nobody wants their baby to be born premature and needing a whole lot of very specialised care just to keep them alive, but being able to get the care we need when we need it really matters to us. We don’t want our employer or an insurance corporation deciding that they don’t approve of that care or they just don’t want to pay for it and thus deciding not to let us have the care we need to stay alive.

We like our kids getting a decent education that doesn’t depend on whether the people in our neighbourhood are rich or poor, and isn’t hostage to the whims of a bunch of religious nutters. We like knowing that our teachers are paid an honest wage and they’re not spending their evenings tending bars or driving Uber just to be able to pay their bills. We like our kids getting a facts-based education that doesn’t pretend anyone’s religious mumbo-jumbo is somehow equal to actual empirical science.

We like going to restaurants and not being obliged to tip. Sure, if the server is really great or if we’ve somehow made extra work for them, it’s sweet to leave them a nice gift, but they’re not depending on tips to pay their bills because they’re already paid an honest wage by their employer.

Most Australians wouldn’t even travel to the US if you paid our airfare. As for letting that failed-state disaster take over our country? Not happening.
www.quora.com/

jackthelad · Musing at the Chaos

centra lAfrica..png If it comes across as anti American don't worry I have far worse anti Saudi/middle east stuff anti Russia anti China and so on.
I even have anti Europe and anti UK stuff at my fingertips.
To easy to say they're all alike they're not.
I think the middle east shitholes followed by Russia and China beat hands down all western nations in the bad guy shithole stakes.
It's one of those days.

Central Africa beats everyone!

-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 21st of March 2024 06:14:53 PM

-- Edited by jackthelad on Thursday 21st of March 2024 06:19:16 PM

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.

Just seen this Syl. Glad it all went well 🤗

I'm like you very squeamish with eyes. Well done for going through with it x

Maddog · Go Outside

jackthelad wrote:
Seems not everyone wants to be American....

Profile photo for Kitty Juniper
Kitty Juniper
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Australian since before the Gold Rush.Sun
Should we Americans allow Australia to be a part of the USA?
“Allow” !?

Honey, you couldn’t pay us to join that disaster.

Australians like our freedom. We like our country schools where the fences are little things an adult could step over, if there’s even a fence at all. We like sending our kids to school and knowing nobody’s going to shoot them in the classroom. We like going shopping and knowing that nobody’s going to shoot us in the shopping centre. We like eating food and knowing no corporation has added poisons and carcinogens to it to make it more shelf-stable or more addicting.

We like being able to collect the rainwater off our own roof and not being told we’re not allowed because our own roof water doesn’t belong to us. We like being allowed to put a vegetable garden in our front yard if we so choose without a HOA walking in and telling us we can’t do that on our own land.

We like owning our own bodies. Our sex education in school is pretty good and we have good access to contraceptives, but if an unwanted pregnancy is going to ruin a student’s career or if a wanted pregnancy goes wrong and looks like it might kill the mother, we don’t have to deal with politicians trying to take away our very basic human freedom to decide how our bodies will and will not be used by others.

We like our freedom to get medical care as needed. Nobody wants cancer or diabetes, nobody wants their baby to be born premature and needing a whole lot of very specialised care just to keep them alive, but being able to get the care we need when we need it really matters to us. We don’t want our employer or an insurance corporation deciding that they don’t approve of that care or they just don’t want to pay for it and thus deciding not to let us have the care we need to stay alive.

We like our kids getting a decent education that doesn’t depend on whether the people in our neighbourhood are rich or poor, and isn’t hostage to the whims of a bunch of religious nutters. We like knowing that our teachers are paid an honest wage and they’re not spending their evenings tending bars or driving Uber just to be able to pay their bills. We like our kids getting a facts-based education that doesn’t pretend anyone’s religious mumbo-jumbo is somehow equal to actual empirical science.

We like going to restaurants and not being obliged to tip. Sure, if the server is really great or if we’ve somehow made extra work for them, it’s sweet to leave them a nice gift, but they’re not depending on tips to pay their bills because they’re already paid an honest wage by their employer.

Most Australians wouldn’t even travel to the US if you paid our airfare. As for letting that failed-state disaster take over our country? Not happening.
www.quora.com/

You don't have to go to Australia to find someone who doesn't want to be American. Plenty around here.

Some get so fed up they emigrate.

Wonder if that happens anywhere else? 😉🤔

Maddog · Go Outside

I'm sure Kitty Juniper speaks for a lot of Australians, but not for the 100K that live here.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.

I think I'd be the same, I can't stand anything to do with eyes. How do you get on with that? Do they knock you out or what?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.
I think I'd be the same, I can't stand anything to do with eyes. How do you get on with that? Do they knock you out or what?

No, they don't sedate you either, just anaesthetise the eyeball....it was hell, and now I still cant see properly, it's driving me mad. The fog should hopefully clear in a few days.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Well, I went in yesterday, the whole procedure from checking in to checking out took two hours...so not bad going.

I am not squeamish, I have had complete hip and knee replacements whilst awake, (morphine makes me ill so I have a spinal block instead) but eyes are a different matter.....I am very squeamish when it comes to eyeballs....so I was dreading it.

However, all went well, I can't see much out of that eye yet, just very bright lights, but that should get clearer in the next few days, so I wont have to type with one eye closed.
Once more....a big thanks to our NHS.
I think I'd be the same, I can't stand anything to do with eyes. How do you get on with that? Do they knock you out or what?
No, they don't sedate you either, just anaesthetise the eyeball....it was hell, and now I still cant see properly, it's driving me mad. The fog should hopefully clear in a few days.

Have you tried drinking a few pints and going for a drive?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Don't be silly.

But to further give credit to the NHS, I just got a phone call from the clinic, asking if I am doing well and booking me in for a post op examination checkup...which would have been a month from the op, as I am away they have arranged it for 6 weeks after.