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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Video of police at Manchester airport kicking and stamping on a mans head goes viral.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Yep, I agree the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

What happened before is crucial in deciding how this should be handled. The man on the floor could have had a weapon and be lay on it.
We have no idea whether he broke the female cops nose, or was he just someone at the airport with his Auntie, who got caught up in whatever was going down?

It's all speculation as to why the cop acted in such a brutal manner, which he definitely did.
The real concerns here are where do you draw the line with enforcement? The police get castigated for being too soft so when something like this happens it all explodes and they're demonised. Take that copper that shot that man in the car who had a gun. He got the sack. Then his colleagues all walked out because why are they going to be given guns to enforce the law only to be sacked if they use them? What are they to do? Wait until someone or one of them dies before taking action?

I think the real concern is WHY the cop acted in this way.

We haven't seen what led up to this, was the man who was kicked and stamped on the same man who broke the cops nose?

Was this happening the same time three police officers were on the floor injured, or were the police in the video the same ones who were injured and they were dealing with their attackers?

Till people are told how, what and why the cop kicked and stamped on a mans head, a man who appeared to be defenceless on the floor, no one can condemn or condone what's happened here.

-- Edited by Syl on Thursday 25th of July 2024 07:14:08 PM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

It's telling that, even though there is video of what happened prior to these cops appearing to dish out very heavy-handed treatment, it doesn't seem to be available for the public to see..
It seems like the Muslims who are videoing and can be heard shouting at the police, don't want video of the same men attacking the police to be made available.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
It's telling that, even though there is video of what happened prior to these cops appearing to dish out very heavy-handed treatment, it doesn't seem to be available for the public to see..
It seems like the Muslims who are videoing and can be heard shouting at the police, don't want video of the same men attacking the police to be made available.

And this is how propaganda works.

Be it Manchester or Gaza..

Magica · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
It's telling that, even though there is video of what happened prior to these cops appearing to dish out very heavy-handed treatment, it doesn't seem to be available for the public to see..
It seems like the Muslims who are videoing and can be heard shouting at the police, don't want video of the same men attacking the police to be made available.

Exactly!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Manchester airport is full of CCTV, even at ground level, so no doubt in due time people won't have to rely on bystanders mobile phone footage to get a fuller picture of what happened.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Manchester airport is full of CCTV, even at ground level, so no doubt in due time people won't have to rely on bystanders mobile phone footage to get a fuller picture of what happened.

By then it won't matter. People will have seen this on TikTok and they will never see legitimate news stories that display what actually happened.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Manchester airport is full of CCTV, even at ground level, so no doubt in due time people won't have to rely on bystanders mobile phone footage to get a fuller picture of what happened.
By then it won't matter. People will have seen this on TikTok and they will never see legitimate news stories that display what actually happened.

People who like to see both sides of a story will wait to make their minds up.

Not everyone will be easily manipulated by social media.

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

I am as disgusted with this video as I am with the video from Manchester Airport. But why did this not get the same media attention.
twitter.com/Briscout1959/status/1816529328911581552%3D%3D&refsrc=email

He's got head protection no doubt a stab vest and probably pepper and he just lies there... bit sad.

These guys need a spell in prison.

-- Edited by jackb on Friday 26th of July 2024 01:00:01 AM

jackb · 1000 Posts!?

Looking at that again there's nothing to suggest he was a cop.

Could have been a deserving target for a kicking.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Manchester airport is full of CCTV, even at ground level, so no doubt in due time people won't have to rely on bystanders mobile phone footage to get a fuller picture of what happened.
By then it won't matter. People will have seen this on TikTok and they will never see legitimate news stories that display what actually happened.
People who like to see both sides of a story will wait to make their minds up.
Not everyone will be easily manipulated by social media.

No doubt. They won't be the ones burning cars and looting either.

Syl, you're not part of the ignorant masses destroying things for the rest of us.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
The Cop in the US who shot and killed that woman with no justification, his previous record seems to indicate he should not have been allowed to carry on enforcing the law.

I wonder if the cop at Manchester Airport on Tuesday night had any previous record of losing it.
Presumably that will all be looked into and made public.

Friend of mine got stopped by the airport police just outside the airport as she was driving towards the M56. Part of her licence plate was damaged. She said there were three of them and the main one was really antagonistic and reached for his gun. She was so shaken up about it because she's a lone woman and thought she was going to be shot!

-- Edited by Digger on Friday 26th of July 2024 10:42:01 AM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
The Cop in the US who shot and killed that woman with no justification, his previous record seems to indicate he should not have been allowed to carry on enforcing the law.

I wonder if the cop at Manchester Airport on Tuesday night had any previous record of losing it.
Presumably that will all be looked into and made public.
Friend of mine got stopped by the airport police just outside the airport as she was driving towards the M56. Part of her licence plate was damaged. She said there were three of them and the main one was really antagonistic and reached for his gun. She was so shaken up about it because she's a lone woman and thought she was going to be shot!

-- Edited by Digger on Friday 26th of July 2024 10:42:01 AM

GMP don't fare well when it comes to how they treat women.

The UK police force where officers gave girls 'unjustified strip searches' | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Baird Inquiry: Andy Burnham comments on report from inquiry into treatment of women in custody | UK News | Sky News

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Manchester airport is full of CCTV, even at ground level, so no doubt in due time people won't have to rely on bystanders mobile phone footage to get a fuller picture of what happened.
By then it won't matter. People will have seen this on TikTok and they will never see legitimate news stories that display what actually happened.
People who like to see both sides of a story will wait to make their minds up.
Not everyone will be easily manipulated by social media.
No doubt. They won't be the ones burning cars and looting either.

Syl, you're not part of the ignorant masses destroying things for the rest of us.

I know, but I believe neither are the mass majority.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

It's now said that trouble started on an incoming flight from Pakistan. The elderly mother of some of the men involved, was insulted by a man on board, words were exchanged in the baggage area, where the man used racist language towards the mother.
She told her sons, and it seems trouble started from there.

No info on who this man was, no camera footage of row on plane, no camera footage of what happened prior to the video shown around the world millions of times.
Oddly, GMP have given no updates on the three police officers, who prior to the incident shown, were injured and taken to hospital....apart from saying the female officer had a broken nose.

There has been a second night of protests in Greater Manchester. God knows why they are now targetting Andy Burnham, he is one who has publicly stated he finds the video disturbing, it's right the cop was immediately suspended, and vital the police hold a thorough investigation.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Manchester airport is full of CCTV, even at ground level, so no doubt in due time people won't have to rely on bystanders mobile phone footage to get a fuller picture of what happened.
By then it won't matter. People will have seen this on TikTok and they will never see legitimate news stories that display what actually happened.
People who like to see both sides of a story will wait to make their minds up.
Not everyone will be easily manipulated by social media.
No doubt. They won't be the ones burning cars and looting either.

Syl, you're not part of the ignorant masses destroying things for the rest of us.

I know, but I believe neither are the mass majority.

Doesn't take a majority. Just a significant number of misinformed people acting like fools..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Andy Burnham has, after visiting Rochdale and spoken to the Muslim community, appealed for calm.
The suspended cop who kicked and stamped on the mans head is now under police investigation.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
Andy Burnham has, after visiting Rochdale and spoken to the Muslim community, appealed for calm.
The suspended cop who kicked and stamped on the mans head is now under police investigation.

here's the footage on X that shows what really happened

https://x.com/Ex_arv_sgt/status/1817244261466681851

-- Edited by Digger on Saturday 27th of July 2024 07:11:33 PM

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Andy Burnham has, after visiting Rochdale and spoken to the Muslim community, appealed for calm.
The suspended cop who kicked and stamped on the mans head is now under police investigation.
here's the footage on X that shows what really happened
https://x.com/Ex_arv_sgt/status/1817244261466681851

-- Edited by Digger on Saturday 27th of July 2024 07:11:33 PM

They wanted a brawl, they got a brawl.

When you have multiple assailants, and you get one down, you may have to keep him down.

I have no problem with any of this..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

It's about time someone released a video of what happened prior to the one circulated a few days ago.

Kid who got kicked and stamped on was a thug. Whilst I don't think it's right to stamp on someones head whilst they are lay on the floor, equally I don't think it's right to attack the police in the way he did.

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