ChaoticMusings

Date: Feb 28 1:21 PM, 2025

RE: Maddog's health, fitness and longevity thread..

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:

Syl wrote:

What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.
I wouldn't bother too much with his lecturing, his is an example of an American tendency to do everything to excess. Just do what you're comfortable with and let him and Sweet Thing get on with the pumping iron routine.

I'm not lecturing. I'm providing data. We are constantly learning new things about what impacts our health and longevity.

So now exercise and not eating shit that harms your body is obsessive or excessive? Being informed is a bad trait?.

Ignorance is bliss eh??

Maddog · Go Outside

Lots of information from those obsessive Aussies that folks should ignore because it doesn't match what they have believed for 50 years. 😎

https://stories.uq.edu.au/research/2023/9-signs-you-have-inflammation-in-your-body/index.html

Maddog · Go Outside

stories.uq.edu.au/research/2023/9-signs-you-have-inflammation-in-your-body/index.html

Date: Feb 28 3:53 PM, 2025

Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Syl wrote:

What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.
I wouldn't bother too much with his lecturing, his is an example of an American tendency to do everything to excess. Just do what you're comfortable with and let him and Sweet Thing get on with the pumping iron routine.
I'm not lecturing. I'm providing data. We are constantly learning new things about what impacts our health and longevity.

So now exercise and not eating shit that harms your body is obsessive or excessive? Being informed is a bad trait?.

Ignorance is bliss eh??

You keep trying to push the idea of heavy weight lifting, when other forms of more gentle exercise are probably better for conditions like arthritis. Tai Chi for instance is effective and doesn't involve straining.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Syl if you are waiting for a hip replacement and have a painful ankle you obviously can't be as fit and active as u were b4. It's obvious you take your health seriously and sound like u still do much more than others do even with your pain to contend with. Hope you get the op as soon as possible and aren't in too much pain. x Maddog sounds a tad bonkers but I'm sure he means well!

Thanks, it's the other knee I am waiting to have replaced. x

I appreciate that apart from osteoarthritis, I am doing well, I am not in any pain that I can't cope with.

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Syl wrote:

What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.
I wouldn't bother too much with his lecturing, his is an example of an American tendency to do everything to excess. Just do what you're comfortable with and let him and Sweet Thing get on with the pumping iron routine.
I'm not lecturing. I'm providing data. We are constantly learning new things about what impacts our health and longevity.

So now exercise and not eating shit that harms your body is obsessive or excessive? Being informed is a bad trait?.

Ignorance is bliss eh??
You keep trying to push the idea of heavy weight lifting, when other forms of more gentle exercise are probably better for conditions like arthritis. Tai Chi for instance is effective and doesn't involve straining.

Yeah, me and the folks at Harvard are bonkers..🙄

Date: Mar 1 9:28 AM, 2025

From an internet search:

For people with osteoarthritis, Tai Chi generally offers more benefits than heavy weightlifting due to its low-impact nature, which puts less stress on joints, while still improving balance, flexibility, and pain relief, whereas heavy weightlifting could potentially exacerbate joint pain if not done carefully and with proper form, with the primary benefit of heavier weights being potential muscle strengthening; however, lighter resistance exercises can also be beneficial for osteoarthritis patients depending on their condition and need.

Key points about Weightlifting for Osteoarthritis:

Muscle strengthening:
Properly executed weightlifting can increase muscle strength around affected joints, potentially providing support and stability.
Potential for joint aggravation:
Heavy weights with improper form can put excessive stress on joints, worsening pain for osteoarthritis patients.
Important considerations:
Light weights: Using lighter weights with higher repetitions may be more suitable for people with osteoarthritis.

Proper form: Correct technique is crucial to avoid further joint damage.

Individualized program: Consult a physical therapist to develop a tailored weightlifting program based on your specific needs.

Overall, if you have osteoarthritis, Tai Chi is generally considered a safer and more beneficial exercise option due to its low-impact nature, while lighter resistance exercises can also be incorporated with proper guidance to build muscle strength around affected joints

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I guess people are different, depending on how bad the arthritis is.
I have seen physio's both private and NHS, have various exercise programmes for knee, hip and ankle, and advice from the consultants I have seen.
I would not be lifting weights any heavier than I am right now, which is two 81b ones.
For me it's repetition and frequency that works.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I guess people are different, depending on how bad the arthritis is.
I have seen physio's both private and NHS, have various exercise programmes for knee, hip and ankle, and advice from the consultants I have seen.
I would not be lifting weights any heavier than I am right now, which is two 81b ones.
For me it's repetition and frequency that works.

Body weight exercises are more than that. Push ups would be moving more weight than that..

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
From an internet search:

For people with osteoarthritis, Tai Chi generally offers more benefits than heavy weightlifting due to its low-impact nature, which puts less stress on joints, while still improving balance, flexibility, and pain relief, whereas heavy weightlifting could potentially exacerbate joint pain if not done carefully and with proper form, with the primary benefit of heavier weights being potential muscle strengthening; however, lighter resistance exercises can also be beneficial for osteoarthritis patients depending on their condition and need.
Key points about Weightlifting for Osteoarthritis:
Muscle strengthening:
Properly executed weightlifting can increase muscle strength around affected joints, potentially providing support and stability.

Potential for joint aggravation:
Heavy weights with improper form can put excessive stress on joints, worsening pain for osteoarthritis patients.

Important considerations:
Light weights: Using lighter weights with higher repetitions may be more suitable for people with osteoarthritis.

Proper form: Correct technique is crucial to avoid further joint damage.

Individualized program: Consult a physical therapist to develop a tailored weightlifting program based on your specific needs.
Overall, if you have osteoarthritis, Tai Chi is generally considered a safer and more beneficial exercise option due to its low-impact nature, while lighter resistance exercises can also be incorporated with proper guidance to build muscle strength around affected joints

Basically lift shit properly. Throw in some Tai Chi for balance and maybe the mental aspect..

You could do yoga too. My GF is also a yogi and even teaches a chair yoga class to the people too weak for other exercises. But ideally they don't get to that stage. Delaying sarcopenia is the goal and Tai Chi isn't going to do that well..

Obviously as you age doing one rep maxes or lifting to failure is dangerous and I do neither. But I go pretty close to failure and so should anyone lifting..I guess if you want to do very light weights and all of those reps, that will work. I don't want to spend 2 hours at the gym doing sets of 65..

Maddog · Go Outside

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Interesting short about longevity in Japan..

Maddog · Go Outside

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This works for men too..

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Lois putting in the work at 90..

Date: Mar 10 9:13 AM, 2025

Maddog wrote:
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Lois putting in the work at 90..

Here we go with the heavy weightlifting again, you don't let it rest do you. I'm sure she deserves a round of applause for that, but the way she staggers away afterwards and the look on her face tells me it didn't do her much good.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
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Lois putting in the work at 90..
Here we go with the heavy weightlifting again, you don't let it rest do you. I'm sure she deserves a round of applause for that, but the way she staggers away afterwards and the look on her face tells me it didn't do her much good.

I agree, I felt quite sorry for her tbh.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
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Lois putting in the work at 90..
Here we go with the heavy weightlifting again, you don't let it rest do you. I'm sure she deserves a round of applause for that, but the way she staggers away afterwards and the look on her face tells me it didn't do her much good.
I agree, I felt quite sorry for her tbh.

You feel sorry for a strong 90 year old woman?

Of course she was challenged by the lift. That's the whole point. Do you think strength training is an unhealthy activity?

Maddog · Go Outside

www.nia.nih.gov/news/how-can-strength-training-build-healthier-bodies-we-age

Strength training is a no brainer and the absolute most effective thing someone can do to increase the quality and quantity of life..

SF · Getting Gobby

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:
www.facebook.com/share/v/1A9CNFT4rV/

Lois putting in the work at 90..
Here we go with the heavy weightlifting again, you don't let it rest do you. I'm sure she deserves a round of applause for that, but the way she staggers away afterwards and the look on her face tells me it didn't do her much good.
I agree, I felt quite sorry for her tbh.
You feel sorry for a strong 90 year old woman?

Of course she was challenged by the lift. That's the whole point. Do you think strength training is an unhealthy activity?

Yeah she does, at 90.