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RE: Maddog's health, fitness and longevity thread..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

" Managing to not die" is hardly the goal of most women.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
" Managing to not die" is hardly the goal of most women.

I don't know if it's the goal, but it's very difficult to get older women to engage in activities that increases their health and life span. They will literally fight you to continue doing what they have always done, regardless of whether it's actually beneficial or possibly harmful..

I went through this with my mother. Nothing like a woman with osteoporosis sitting in a wheelchair telling you her lifestyle choices haven't impacted her quality of life. 🙄

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
" Managing to not die" is hardly the goal of most women.
I don't know if it's the goal, but it's very difficult to get older women to engage in activities that increases their health and life span. They will literally fight you to continue doing what they have always done, regardless of whether it's actually beneficial or possibly harmful..

I went through this with my mother. Nothing like a woman with osteoporosis sitting in a wheelchair telling you her lifestyle choices haven't impacted her quality of life. 🙄

I remember you talking about your mum, but not all older women are sitting in a wheelchair refusing to help themselves.

What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.

What I don't do, is go to the gym, watch everything I eat, fret about not being able To do the things I did 5 years ago....like cycle, kayak, play tennis etc.

Maddog, when you are a decade or so older, and find you can't do everything you can now,I hope you can accept that, cos stress is a killer.

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Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
" Managing to not die" is hardly the goal of most women.
I don't know if it's the goal, but it's very difficult to get older women to engage in activities that increases their health and life span. They will literally fight you to continue doing what they have always done, regardless of whether it's actually beneficial or possibly harmful..

I went through this with my mother. Nothing like a woman with osteoporosis sitting in a wheelchair telling you her lifestyle choices haven't impacted her quality of life. 🙄
I remember you talking about your mum, but not all older women are sitting in a wheelchair refusing to help themselves.
What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.
What I don't do, is go to the gym, watch everything I eat, fret about not being able To do the things I did 5 years ago....like cycle, kayak, play tennis etc.
Maddog, when you are a decade or so older, and find you can't do everything you can now,I hope you can accept that, cos stress is a killer.

I'll do what I can to make sure that doesn’t happen. If it does, it won't be because I didn't put in a little effort.

And I don't really scoff at your weights. I just present data that shows more weight would be better..

And there's no reason why you shouldn't still be able to cycle or kayak. You're not that old..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Waiting for a new knee stops me cycling, it hurts. I have had one knee replacement, that went brilliantly, one hip replacement, (not so good) and also ankle is now riddled with osteoarthritis...not sure what'll happen with that after the knee has been replaced.
Yes, I could still kayak, and I will when we next go away...we sold ours 5 years back, and also don't spend half the year next to the coast anymore...it's a bit difficult to kayak in Manchester.

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Syl wrote:
Waiting for a new knee stops me cycling, it hurts. I have had one knee replacement, that went brilliantly, one hip replacement, (not so good) and also ankle is now riddled with osteoarthritis...not sure what'll happen with that after the knee has been replaced.
Yes, I could still kayak, and I will when we next go away...we sold ours 5 years back, and also don't spend half the year next to the coast anymore...it's a bit difficult to kayak in Manchester.

You're kinda making my point for me..🤷

Date: Feb 27 10:21 PM, 2025

The needless chemicals injected for no apparent reason into American food makes it difficult for any American citizen to be truly healthy. There are 70 ingredients in an American McDonald's burger, in the UK there are 2, British beef and salt. The chocolate in the States is so superficial tasting and drowning in sweetener people from other countries find it inedible. It's not just fast food though , the FDA allows normal food to contain unnecessary sometimes dangerous chemicals.Bread is full of sweetener and has a sponge like texture. Other countries won't tolerate it and has none of this junk out in their foods.. It's like the FDA is openly using the American people as guinea pigs Obviously you can buy produce directly from farms but it seems bizarre that only America has to put up with this excessive junk deliberately injected into food, whilst doctors wonder why obesity and diabetes levels are higher there. This is the sort of thing Trump should be sorting out, it's unfair.

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I'm trying to be helpful, not an ass. Most doctors don't have time to delve deeply into this, they sorta expect those that care about their health to do this on their own.

The driving force behind most osteoarthritis is inflammation. It gets into joints and does damage. There are a lot of causes for inflammation and lifestyle is a leading one..

What you eat, especially if you are genetically predisposed is pretty important. So is adequate sleep..The reason doctors are so quick to treat sleep apnea isn't to make people less grouchy. The lack of sleep raises inflammation with raises the likelihood of a myriad of bad things including osteoarthritis..

It literally shortens your life. Even with lifestyle changes osteoarthritis can still be a problem, and lifting heavy and getting stronger legs helps with OA too.

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Inflammations role in OA..

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Lifestyle changes to take on inflammation..

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How to battle OA when you already have it..

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Anonymous wrote:
The needless chemicals injected for no apparent reason into American food makes it difficult for any American citizen to be truly healthy. There are 70 ingredients in an American McDonald's burger, in the UK there are 2, British beef and salt. The chocolate in the States is so superficial tasting and drowning in sweetener people from other countries find it inedible. It's not just fast food though , the FDA allows normal food to contain unnecessary sometimes dangerous chemicals.Bread is full of sweetener and has a sponge like texture. Other countries won't tolerate it and has none of this junk out in their foods.. It's like the FDA is openly using the American people as guinea pigs Obviously you can buy produce directly from farms but it seems bizarre that only America has to put up with this excessive junk deliberately injected into food, whilst doctors wonder why obesity and diabetes levels are higher there. This is the sort of thing Trump should be sorting out, it's unfair.

Google "Make America Healthy Again".

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Waiting for a new knee stops me cycling, it hurts. I have had one knee replacement, that went brilliantly, one hip replacement, (not so good) and also ankle is now riddled with osteoarthritis...not sure what'll happen with that after the knee has been replaced.
Yes, I could still kayak, and I will when we next go away...we sold ours 5 years back, and also don't spend half the year next to the coast anymore...it's a bit difficult to kayak in Manchester.
You're kinda making my point for me..🤷

How?

You also suffer from osteoarthritis don't you?

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Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Waiting for a new knee stops me cycling, it hurts. I have had one knee replacement, that went brilliantly, one hip replacement, (not so good) and also ankle is now riddled with osteoarthritis...not sure what'll happen with that after the knee has been replaced.
Yes, I could still kayak, and I will when we next go away...we sold ours 5 years back, and also don't spend half the year next to the coast anymore...it's a bit difficult to kayak in Manchester.
You're kinda making my point for me..🤷
How?
You also suffer from osteoarthritis don't you?

I have/had it in my right knee. But it's not bothering me anymore. Now that I rehabbed it and started taking better care of myself..

Osteoarthritis isn't unpreventable or untreatable.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Osteoarthritis can be hereditary, also caused by wear and tear. Many active people can suffer from it.
As do I.
Mine started early 40,s...was very active, very slim. My mum was also very slim, she suffered also, not as severe as me...she lived till 93 and never needed any joint transplants.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Osteoarthritis can be hereditary, also caused by wear and tear. Many active people can suffer from it.
As do I.
Mine started early 40,s...was very active, very slim. My mum was also very slim, she suffered also, not as severe as me...she lived till 93 and never needed any joint transplants.

Yes, it's hereditary. Wear and tear doesn't really hurt you unless it's repetitive motion like running a lot on a hard surface and running wrong. Activity is the best prevention for it. Especially if it involves strength training.

The wear and tear for most mortals is a product of inflammation and I've already laid out what causes that and how to decrease it. As for slim, that doesn't really mean fit. Thick female rugby player is probably for more fit than a super model..

If you are genetically predispositioned you need to be more vigilant or it's just going to get worse. Same as someone with type 1 diabetes. Shit genetics, but manageable.

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Date: Feb 28 10:52 AM, 2025

Syl wrote:

What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.
I wouldn't bother too much with his lecturing, his is an example of an American tendency to do everything to excess. Just do what you're comfortable with and let him and Sweet Thing get on with the pumping iron routine.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:

Syl wrote:

What I think many do, me included, is keep fit in their own way. Eat well, go out, walk, garden (in better weather)personally I also do my weights, (that you scoff at) and housework alone is a good way to keep active.
I wouldn't bother too much with his lecturing, his is an example of an American tendency to do everything to excess. Just do what you're comfortable with and let him and Sweet Thing get on with the pumping iron routine.

I do.

I get his point, that inactivity and too much unhealthy food makes for an unhealthy lifestyle. No doubt we could all do a bit more to help ourselves, but my way of thinking is, enjoy life, look after yourself without being obsessive about it, and if life throws you lemons...make lemonade.