Digger wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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I can't imagine anyone choosing to die in a fire.

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 He chose not to leave his son...I can understand that.

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 Can you imagine the dilemma?    I think I couldn't live with myself if I left a loved one alone to die.   I would rather die with them.

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 I'm terrified of fires, but I would never leave my child.  Brave man, good dad.

Digger wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Probably going to sound heartless here...there is no way I would risk my life like some have to save my home. Granted memories/keepsakes etc are irreplaceable however what good are those if you're dead?

What will a domestic hosepipe do if firefighters cannot control and extinguish the fires? - I've just read that a couple of people were found (dead) with hosepipes. I suppose panic and fear take hold, a fight or flight scenario.

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 Apparently, a few people did save their homes with hosepipes.

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 Thanks for that. I've since read about some saving their homes.

Vita wrote:

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Some Scumbags are looting, they should be shot on site.

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 Hope they get long prison sentences.  Lower than a snakes belly!

"If Lubeley and the others try to leave, they risk being unable to return. On Monday, one of Lubeley’s friends, Janely Sandoval, delivered essentials. The real-estate broker drove her white Mercedes SUV up to the neighborhood checkpoint and stacked supplies for Lubeley and others at the makeshift border: water, bagels, bananas, grain-free tortilla chips and other staples.

“Can you guys hurry up?” one officer told Sandoval as she finished. “We just got an order not to allow any supplies through.” "



www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed-homeowners-hunt-looters-a40de302



The police there aren't much more effective than the FD..

Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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"If Lubeley and the others try to leave, they risk being unable to return. On Monday, one of Lubeley’s friends, Janely Sandoval, delivered essentials. The real-estate broker drove her white Mercedes SUV up to the neighborhood checkpoint and stacked supplies for Lubeley and others at the makeshift border: water, bagels, bananas, grain-free tortilla chips and other staples.

“Can you guys hurry up?” one officer told Sandoval as she finished. “We just got an order not to allow any supplies through.” "



www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed-homeowners-hunt-looters-a40de302



The police there aren't much more effective than the FD..

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 I can't read that link.

If Police are stopping supplies through, how come the looters are getting through?

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 Must be endless ways in and out of such aa massive area.

jackb wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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"If Lubeley and the others try to leave, they risk being unable to return. On Monday, one of Lubeley’s friends, Janely Sandoval, delivered essentials. The real-estate broker drove her white Mercedes SUV up to the neighborhood checkpoint and stacked supplies for Lubeley and others at the makeshift border: water, bagels, bananas, grain-free tortilla chips and other staples.

“Can you guys hurry up?” one officer told Sandoval as she finished. “We just got an order not to allow any supplies through.” "



www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed-homeowners-hunt-looters-a40de302



The police there aren't much more effective than the FD..

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 I can't read that link.

If Police are stopping supplies through, how come the looters are getting through?

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 Must be endless ways in and out of such aa massive area.

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 Exactly.  The folks bringing supplies are going to checkpoints. 

 

The looters are going where there aren't any..

Maddog wrote:

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jackb wrote:

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 California is getting so fucked up, that actors are leaving.

 

It's no longer the epicenter for anything.  

 

Watch Yellowstone.

 

Watch Landman. 

 

No filming in Cali. 

 

The number one podcast and several more in the top 50 come out of Austin..

 

The leaders of California look incompetent and clueless. They want to be spiritual leaders for their people, not hands on managers providing basic services..

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 Is it a land grab?

Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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jackb wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Maddog wrote:

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"If Lubeley and the others try to leave, they risk being unable to return. On Monday, one of Lubeley’s friends, Janely Sandoval, delivered essentials. The real-estate broker drove her white Mercedes SUV up to the neighborhood checkpoint and stacked supplies for Lubeley and others at the makeshift border: water, bagels, bananas, grain-free tortilla chips and other staples.

“Can you guys hurry up?” one officer told Sandoval as she finished. “We just got an order not to allow any supplies through.” "



www.wsj.com/us-news/fires-armed-homeowners-hunt-looters-a40de302



The police there aren't much more effective than the FD..

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 I can't read that link.

If Police are stopping supplies through, how come the looters are getting through?

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 Must be endless ways in and out of such aa massive area.

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 Exactly.  The folks bringing supplies are going to checkpoints. 

 

The looters are going where there aren't any..

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 Ahhh, so the looters are going in by foot presumably.

 

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 Hope they get long sentences.   😡

I know he is controversial, but his theories may hold water (no pun)

It seems very odd that the fire chief was so clueless about the lack of water...surely it's up to the fire department to check these things, especially as the fires had been expected.