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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

RE: Adolescence

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
What is the 'learning curve' though?

That boy had anger issues, he was 13 and unsupervised out alone at night....surely it's just good parenting to know where your kids are at night, and to notice uncontrolled anger issues.

I don't doubt it's incredibly hard to police what a 13 year old watches online, even if there is parental guidance on what they use at home, stuff gets circulated around outside the home.
When porn is so readily available, when you hear of young schoolgirls sending nude pics to boys, which then gets passed around, is it any wonder, prompted by the likes of Andrew Tate who has millions of young followers being corrupted by his misogynistic tirades, that some young kids have distorted views of how decent relationships are built.
The learning curve, if you disregard this work of fiction with its socio-political agenda is that parents should have more control over their kids.
I think it went a bit deeper than that.

it should have but it actually didn't enough. Hence the many negative reviews it got.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I haven't read any negative reviews, I read this thread, mostly positive, and also read it was to be shown in schools.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
I haven't read any negative reviews, I read this thread, mostly positive, and also read it was to be shown in schools.

Nobody has criticised the acting etc, just the dramatic content and plot holes. Do you think for one moment this being shown in schools will change anything? What has to change is too much now, we are too far gone.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
I haven't read any negative reviews, I read this thread, mostly positive, and also read it was to be shown in schools.
Nobody has criticised the acting etc, just the dramatic content and plot holes. Do you think for one moment this being shown in schools will change anything? What has to change is too much now, we are too far gone.

I think showing it in schools is a start.

This sort of misogyny shown in 'Adolescence' is centuries old. I was listening to a debate about the Penny Dreadful publications in the 1860's...they were aimed mainly at young, working class men and boys.

"Nineteenth-century penny dreadfuls were full of male violence and women’s violation; they were often so violent that many questioned whether or not the penny dreadfuls encouraged such violence in their readers."

Now, with the internet, that audience of young men has multiplied millions of times over, plus women have far more power, I think that has warped many male minds now...which is why we hear the term incel so often. I had never heard that term a few years ago.

Red Okktober · Getting Gobby

Syl wrote:

Like I said Mags, parents have the power to limit what their kids look at online in the home...not so much out of it.
I agree that the Internet, brilliant though it is, has cause so many problems for kids...and adults too. There are always like-minded weirdos who can 'meet' online and make the abnormal seem normal.
Whoever coined the phrase 80% of women are only interested in 20% of men, has bred a lot of hatred against women...especially if you feel you are in the 80% of men who women shun.
When kids who are just beginning to feel interest in the opposite sex hear that, along with the false images they see of girls and women...it can obviously affect a minority.

It's a massive downside of the internet that it's given all the freaks and oddballs, who were previously isolated from one another, a collective voice to express and spread their warped views of the world.

These people would have been harmless in pre-internet days, but now they absorb each others craziness and have morphed into dangerous groups.

If someone said to me in the 90s that in 30 years time we will have a PM who doesn't know what a woman is, and it will take a Supreme Court ruling to define one, and that men in drag will be considered by many to be actual real women. All due to a new invention called 'The Internet' - I would have said that we must stop this invention from ever taking off at any any cost as it sounds like some kind of brainwashing device.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
I haven't read any negative reviews, I read this thread, mostly positive, and also read it was to be shown in schools.
Nobody has criticised the acting etc, just the dramatic content and plot holes. Do you think for one moment this being shown in schools will change anything? What has to change is too much now, we are too far gone.
I think showing it in schools is a start.
This sort of misogyny shown in 'Adolescence' is centuries old. I was listening to a debate about the Penny Dreadful publications in the 1860's...they were aimed mainly at young, working class men and boys.
"Nineteenth-century penny dreadfuls were full of male violence and women’s violation; they were often so violent that many questioned whether or not the penny dreadfuls encouraged such violence in their readers."
Now, with the internet, that audience of young men has multiplied millions of times over, plus women have far more power, I think that has warped many male minds now...which is why we hear the term incel so often. I had never heard that term a few years ago.

it's been around since men got up on two legs. I remember reading a James Bond novel years ago. It was cram packed with misogyny. And it won't change. We'll always have racists and homophobes and other people who hate. Always. If showing kids a TV series as a means to educate then you'd have to stop them all watching TV, going on the internet and phones and completely cloister them. It ain't gonna happen.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
I haven't read any negative reviews, I read this thread, mostly positive, and also read it was to be shown in schools.
Nobody has criticised the acting etc, just the dramatic content and plot holes. Do you think for one moment this being shown in schools will change anything? What has to change is too much now, we are too far gone.
I think showing it in schools is a start.
This sort of misogyny shown in 'Adolescence' is centuries old. I was listening to a debate about the Penny Dreadful publications in the 1860's...they were aimed mainly at young, working class men and boys.
"Nineteenth-century penny dreadfuls were full of male violence and women’s violation; they were often so violent that many questioned whether or not the penny dreadfuls encouraged such violence in their readers."
Now, with the internet, that audience of young men has multiplied millions of times over, plus women have far more power, I think that has warped many male minds now...which is why we hear the term incel so often. I had never heard that term a few years ago.

it's been around since men got up on two legs. I remember reading a James Bond novel years ago. It was cram packed with misogyny. And it won't change. We'll always have racists and homophobes and other people who hate. Always. If showing kids a TV series as a means to educate then you'd have to stop them all watching TV, going on the internet and phones and completely cloister them. It ain't gonna happen.

I know it's been around forever, but like Red and myself are saying, the internet has made it seem normal.

It seems in some young peoples minds, it's more male v female...with females holding the cards of who they swipe left or right on....it's a totally alien way of 'courtship', and unless young people are educated it'll just get worse, and it's young women who will be suffering in the long run...again.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Interesting article. It doesn't tell us anything we don't already know, but it is trying to do something about it.

https://communityjustice.scot/blogs/new-research-could-help-prevent-young-men-being-radicalised-by-online-misogyny/