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Digger · Admin

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SF · Getting Gobby

Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM

It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.

Digger · Admin

SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.

Stop using a proxy. If you want to use a proxy I'll ban you and you can post as a guest.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
   Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
Emaul was supported by all of us on here and it was no problem for MG to be a mod there and here. We all joined there. The problems arose when it was discovered that MG - who was admin in the Chatcave - was reading everybody's whispers and IP sharing was going on. MG was sharing the whispers with Vass. It was MG who persistently pushed for this forum to allow all and every post through including real life stuff no matter how vile. Myself and another mod were not happy with this, so Shell changed the rules. But MG disagreed and didn't like it.
Vass created Emaul because Shell wouldn't let MG or him take a larger role in the running of this place. Also, Vass was getting increasingly jealous of Budgie with his silly 'do you do anal' talk with MG. MG asked Shell to tell Budgie that her partner had taken umbrage when in fact it was Vass. The weird thing was she and Vass had never even met, FFS!
Then, when Vass publicly announced he was going to ruin CM and things got nasty with Emaul members slagging this place off, that's when Shell saw her arse, Budgie gave us all access to the whispers to read, and Shell published them.

I understand. I don't remember what went back on tbh but I know Vass wasn't a nice bloke. Why they decided to have an affair via whispers knowing whispers could be read I have no idea!

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.

Lol! My teeth look great especially now, not that it matters. I'm not the same person I was back then, I couldn't give a flying one what a random no mark like you says. Why not actually join in and talk on threads instead of being obsessed with me?

I'm not going anywhere unless Digger says so.

SF · Getting Gobby

Fluffy wrote:
SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.
Lol! My teeth look great especially now, not that it matters. I'm not the same person I was back then, I couldn't give a flying one what a random no mark like you says. Why not actually join in and talk on threads instead of being obsessed with me?
I'm not going anywhere unless Digger says so.

Why are you getting all angry Fluffs? I simply said Shell did a nasty thing! Please calm down.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.
Lol! My teeth look great especially now, not that it matters. I'm not the same person I was back then, I couldn't give a flying one what a random no mark like you says. Why not actually join in and talk on threads instead of being obsessed with me?
I'm not going anywhere unless Digger says so.
Why are you getting all angry Fluffs? I simply said Shell did a nasty thing! Please calm down.

Are you Vam's friend SF? If so, I have no problem chatting with you but not interested in bitching about Shell or the past There's a weird troll who tried to impersonate SF (and myself) hence I was a tad annoyed as I thought it was you.

Digger · Admin

SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.
Lol! My teeth look great especially now, not that it matters. I'm not the same person I was back then, I couldn't give a flying one what a random no mark like you says. Why not actually join in and talk on threads instead of being obsessed with me?
I'm not going anywhere unless Digger says so.
Why are you getting all angry Fluffs? I simply said Shell did a nasty thing! Please calm down.

I've warned you. I don't often ban anyone but I'm that way out today and your trolling is fucking tedious.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Fluffy wrote:
SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
SF wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Vam wrote:
Digger wrote:

Vassago, the holier than thou pontificating internet hard man who was conducting an on line affair while his missus sat next to him on the couch.

MG: Thrust hard into me Vass, I'm frothing like a bottle of fairy liquid dropped into the Niagra falls
Vassago: Shit, the wife's here, need to log off, brb in 5
MG: ok
Vassago: #
MG: back
Vassago: Where were we?
MG: you were thrusting etc
Vassago: Oh, yeah Take it hard you filthy bitch!!!!!!!!! Oh shit, now the kids are pestering me. I'll brb in 5
MG: k
Vassago: wife's hovering round, can't let her see my erection
MG: oh no :(
Holy crap - that can’t be real. Please tell me that’s not for real!

This little snippet is a parody done by Budgie. But the real ones were just as funny, particularly the ones between Hobbit and Leggo.
The whispers were hilarious. Vassago and MG (metal girl) were conducting an on line romance in the whispers thinking nobody could see what was going on. He was married with three kids and she had a partner. Their code for 'all clear' was #. Budgie set up the whispers and ultimately it was him who found a way to read them. They might well have never come to light until MG, Vassago, and a good few others turned on Shell and ran over to Bitchfest to get into bed with E.dna. So she published them and the forum views went through the fucking roof!

I may well be wrong but I remember E.dna loathed Vass, MG, Tribal and the rest .She thought they got their just desserts with the whispers being made public.
I thought the whispers were published because Vass created another forum and effectively (albeit briefly) stole many of CM's members. Creating a forum and stealing her members is bad enough so it doesn't really matter.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 05:38:45 PM

-- Edited by Fluffy on Saturday 12th of July 2025 07:04:32 PM
It was a shame that Shell had such a vendetta against you as well. When she posted that montage of your goofy front teeth she really had gone too far tbh.
Lol! My teeth look great especially now, not that it matters. I'm not the same person I was back then, I couldn't give a flying one what a random no mark like you says. Why not actually join in and talk on threads instead of being obsessed with me?
I'm not going anywhere unless Digger says so.
Why are you getting all angry Fluffs? I simply said Shell did a nasty thing! Please calm down.
Are you Vam's friend SF? If so, I have no problem chatting with you but not interested in bitching about Shell or the past There's a weird troll who tried to impersonate SF (and myself) hence I was a tad annoyed as I thought it was you.

This idiot only logs in to have snide little digs, best ignored.

Digger · Admin

Banned. I just checked his details and he joined using a proxy which is not allowed on this forum. So bye bye. If he wants to rejoin using his genuine IP he can.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

I got confused because they were clearly a long term member at some point. They sent a PM I didn't read and just deleted.

I don't understand why all they want to do is troll, it doesn't work and it's boring! It's weird they refuse not to use a proxy though, it means they don't want anyone knowing anything about them. Why the concern?

Vam · Musing at the Chaos

Fluffy wrote:
Are you Vam's friend SF? If so, I have no problem chatting with you but not interested in bitching about Shell or the past There's a weird troll who tried to impersonate SF (and myself) hence I was a tad annoyed as I thought it was you.

Definitely not! Not even close.

The real SF has the best words, and a subtle but lethal wit that made me learn to never eat/drink anything while reading his posts 😂

This sad skeez, though? Bullshit splatterchatter - that‘s all it has to offer.

Digger · Admin

Fluffy wrote:
I got confused because they were clearly a long term member at some point. They sent a PM I didn't read and just deleted.
I don't understand why all they want to do is troll, it doesn't work and it's boring! It's weird they refuse not to use a proxy though, it means they don't want anyone knowing anything about them. Why the concern?

Either an ex Dogger or Bitchfest probably

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Vam wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Are you Vam's friend SF? If so, I have no problem chatting with you but not interested in bitching about Shell or the past There's a weird troll who tried to impersonate SF (and myself) hence I was a tad annoyed as I thought it was you.
Definitely not! Not even close.
The real SF has the best words, and a subtle but lethal wit that made me learn to never eat/drink anything while reading his posts 😂
This sad skeez, though? Bullshit splatterchatter - that‘s all it has to offer.

I didn't think they were your type of person tbh ! But when I noted they were a full time member with a high post count I thought it was best to be on the safe side.

SF sounds great, when I eventually got myself booted off all the forums that existed on the net I stopped reading for 5 years and that just of been when he posted.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
I got confused because they were clearly a long term member at some point. They sent a PM I didn't read and just deleted.
I don't understand why all they want to do is troll, it doesn't work and it's boring! It's weird they refuse not to use a proxy though, it means they don't want anyone knowing anything about them. Why the concern?

Either an ex Dogger or Bitchfest probably

I know them of old. They don't like me knowing they were Jeanette on BF (purple Barney avi) but they spoke exactly the same, three kisses and all. At that time they were trolling Claire and when I looked at their history here they started a thread about her too.

Then they were Goggle in chat and would troll me or anyone else who was being posted about at the time. What I find genuinely sad is they haven't changed at all and so much time has passed. They dropped the persona once and said I looked nice when I dropped the OTT make up and fake look. I guess they were right there. There is a person there but they don't like to show it which is a shame.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Sunday 13th of July 2025 03:43:27 PM

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
I got confused because they were clearly a long term member at some point. They sent a PM I didn't read and just deleted.
I don't understand why all they want to do is troll, it doesn't work and it's boring! It's weird they refuse not to use a proxy though, it means they don't want anyone knowing anything about them. Why the concern?

Either an ex Dogger or Bitchfest probably
I know them of old. They don't like me knowing they were Jeanette on BF (purple Barney avi) but they spoke exactly the same, three kisses and all. At that time they were trolling Claire and when I looked at their history here they started a thread about her too.
Then they were Goggle in chat and would troll me or anyone else who was being posted about at the time. What I find genuinely sad is they haven't changed at all and so much time has passed. They dropped the persona once and said I looked nice when I dropped the OTT make up and fake look. I guess they were right there. There is a person there but they don't like to show it which is a shame.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Sunday 13th of July 2025 03:43:27 PM

Thankfully, all in the past, and best left there.

I'm sure the fake SF will be thrilled to know, thanks to him, all the past crap is being regurgitated.

Best not to give him the satisfaction.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Syl wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
I got confused because they were clearly a long term member at some point. They sent a PM I didn't read and just deleted.
I don't understand why all they want to do is troll, it doesn't work and it's boring! It's weird they refuse not to use a proxy though, it means they don't want anyone knowing anything about them. Why the concern?

Either an ex Dogger or Bitchfest probably
I know them of old. They don't like me knowing they were Jeanette on BF (purple Barney avi) but they spoke exactly the same, three kisses and all. At that time they were trolling Claire and when I looked at their history here they started a thread about her too.
Then they were Goggle in chat and would troll me or anyone else who was being posted about at the time. What I find genuinely sad is they haven't changed at all and so much time has passed. They dropped the persona once and said I looked nice when I dropped the OTT make up and fake look. I guess they were right there. There is a person there but they don't like to show it which is a shame.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Sunday 13th of July 2025 03:43:27 PM
Thankfully, all in the past, and best left there.
I'm sure the fake SF will be thrilled to know, thanks to him, all the past crap is being regurgitated.
Best not to give him the satisfaction.

You're right x

Date: Jul 14 11:22 AM, 2025

Fluffy wrote:
Digger wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
I got confused because they were clearly a long term member at some point. They sent a PM I didn't read and just deleted.
I don't understand why all they want to do is troll, it doesn't work and it's boring! It's weird they refuse not to use a proxy though, it means they don't want anyone knowing anything about them. Why the concern?

Either an ex Dogger or Bitchfest probably
I know them of old. They don't like me knowing they were Jeanette on BF (purple Barney avi) but they spoke exactly the same, three kisses and all. At that time they were trolling Claire and when I looked at their history here they started a thread about her too.
Then they were Goggle in chat and would troll me or anyone else who was being posted about at the time. What I find genuinely sad is they haven't changed at all and so much time has passed. They dropped the persona once and said I looked nice when I dropped the OTT make up and fake look. I guess they were right there. There is a person there but they don't like to show it which is a shame.

-- Edited by Fluffy on Sunday 13th of July 2025 03:43:27 PM

If it really is JEANETTE then they were a nasty piece of work and everyone knew it. I really hope they have not popped up here now. Do you mind me asking how you know it’s them thanks