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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

RE: State pension age could rise to 74

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/27/women-child-free-30-ons
I am betting those figures are taken of women born IN England and Wales.

"More than half (50.1%) of women in England and Wales born in 1990 were without a child when they turned 30 in 2020, the first generation to do so, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS)"
"Women in England" means being somewhere at the time..

Not where you were born..

I'm sure you can find birthrate figures for only the native born.
Yet there are alternate studies that say the average Muslim woman living in the UK has three children in her lifetime, which seems like a very conservative estimate to me.

It put the 2005-10 fertility rate among UK Muslims at 3.0, which means that the average British Muslim had exactly three children in her lifetime.

FactCheck: will Britain have a Muslim majority by 2050? – Channel 4 News

Based on current demographics that's likely true.

Assuming the next generations of Muslims stay true to their faith..

I've never stated Muslims aren't breeding faster than natives. Just that the reproduction rate for your country and most of the West is a ticking economic time bomb..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Things have to change, one way or another. I gave my views.

The FactCheck link I posted is quite interesting. I think they have underestimated the figures, (written in 2005/2010 estimating birth rates amongst Muslim women will drop by 2030) that's only 5 years from now. I don't believe that has happened, especially amongst Pakistani and Bangladeshi women of child bearing age.

Apart from that, it seems to be a none scaremongering, well written piece.

-- Edited by Syl on Sunday 27th of July 2025 11:22:29 AM

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Things have to change, one way or another. I gave my views.

The FactCheck link I posted is quite interesting. I think they have underestimated the figures, (written in 2005/2010 estimating birth rates amongst Muslim women will drop by 2030) that's only 5 years from now. I don't believe that has happened, especially amongst Pakistani and Bangladeshi women of child bearing age.
Apart from that, it seems to be a none scaremongering, well written piece.

-- Edited by Syl on Sunday 27th of July 2025 11:22:29 AM

They probably already have data that shows that each generation becomes like the natives in terms of having kids.

I'll bet the grandkids of Indians and Jamaicans are far more "British" in terms of reproducing than people in their former countries.

Even here, I cant think of a millennial Hispanic woman that I knoe with more than two kids.

It's why our birthrate is dropping even with all of our immigrants..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

I will bet in 50 years time, the figures will be proven to be skewed...obviously neither of us will be around to say 'I told you so'.

One reason is many Muslim immigrants don't want to integrate and be influenced by the natives they are living amongst. In my district there are areas where they have their own communities, shops, business, mosque, many don't speak English, they don't need to.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
I will bet in 50 years time, the figures will be proven to be skewed...obviously neither of us will be around to say 'I told you so'.

One reason is many Muslim immigrants don't want to integrate and be influenced by the natives they are living amongst. In my district there are areas where they have their own communities, shops, business, mosque, many don't speak English, they don't need to.

It's all a guess to some degree.

What's not a guess is that the West is getting increasingly top heavy in terms of age distribution, and it's a significant problem no matter who the deity of choice is for the citizens..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Syl wrote:
I will bet in 50 years time, the figures will be proven to be skewed...obviously neither of us will be around to say 'I told you so'.

One reason is many Muslim immigrants don't want to integrate and be influenced by the natives they are living amongst. In my district there are areas where they have their own communities, shops, business, mosque, many don't speak English, they don't need to.
It's all a guess to some degree.

What's not a guess is that the West is getting increasingly top heavy in terms of age distribution, and it's a significant problem no matter who the deity of choice is for the citizens..

Yes, I can see that.

What worked once, in the format it was designed to work, doesn't necessarily work decades later.

The world changes.

Jobless Oddball · Boring Twat.

Digger wrote:
Fears are mounting that the state pension age could rise faster as the government launches a formal review.
Ministers are reviving the Pensions Commission to find ways of heading off a crisis, with nearly half of Brits not putting anything into retirement funds.
However, at the same time reviews of the official pension age are kicking off examining the costs to the government and life expectancy.
Alarm has been sounded about the sustainability of the triple lock, which means the state's old-age payouts rise by the highest out of inflation, earnings and 2.5 per cent every year.
The pension age is already slated to rise to 67 between 2026 and 2028.
Currently the legal position is that it will reach 68 from 2044-46.
But a previous report by former Tesco director Baroness Neville-Rolfe cautioned that might need to be accelerated.
With the triple lock in place there are estimates the level would have to hit 74 by 2068–69 in order to maintain spending at around 6 per cent of GDP.
Lady Rolfe suggested setting a rule that Britons receive pensions for 31 per cent of the average life expectancy.
Those principles would have big implications for younger workers, with the Tory peer saying that the retirement age should reach 68 between 2041 and 2043.
It could then reach 69 between 2046 and 2048 - with those projections indicating that it would need to hit 70 in the early 2050s.
That would be when people born in the 1980s would be looking to bow out of the workplace.

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