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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

RE: Bonnie Blue

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Anonymous wrote:
After reading here about this stunt, my own reaction is that despite it being consensual it's morally corrupt.

And it does raise the question - why did she do it?

Money. She has made millions. Her mother doesn't have to work again.

Why doesn't she just quit now, that's the more pertinent question in my view. She is rich now and set up for life. From what I could tell and her manager agreed, she doesn't really have emotions, not negative ones at least. Like Avon said, her eyes seen empty. That's one of the traits of a narcissist.

I suppose she recognises she has a few years left and wants to make as much money as possible. But if being a millionaire isn't enough, I don't know what will be.

I found it interesting that even though she didn't show any negative emotions after the free for all her body certainly did. She developed a "head cold" so severe she couldn't go on her beloved social media and had to retreat and rest. Obviously I don't know for sure but if her brain wasn't protesting about the exertion so to speak her body spoke up like a trauma response and said " no more of that".

She hasn't listened.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Vam wrote:
😂 That’s a fair point.
This topic has put me off steak tartare for life
And sausages.
🤢…. Thing is, the name ‘Bonnie Blue’ barely even registered with me. Until today.
But that’s the thing about some of Diggs’ threads. They often make me go Google stuff I didn’t know I wanted to know! 😂
I didn't know much about her until Digs did a thread.! I had heard the name vaguely so due to the thread watched half the documentary. The woman filming remained pretty non judgemental about Bonnie until she agreed to meet Andrew Tate.
To me, that's worse than her sex work. I would be a hypocrite to critique anyone doing that anyway but agreeing to meet with a known sex trafficker and self confessed misogynist who tells young boys to disrespect women is worse imo than shagging consenting adult men.
She's sorta giving Tate the ammunition he needs..🤷
I'm off to bed but nice to speak to you Maddog. How so, are you saying because there are woman who do porn in the world Tate is justified in saying men should disrespect ALL women?
Incidentally not to get too heavy but without porn there would be more sex attacks on real women. Like I said at the end of the day it's men who watch the vast majority of porn and men who need it. Yet the women working in the industry get shamed.
She's well beyond "just doing porn".

Tate needs examples to justify what he says. She gives him one. Obviously most women don't, which is why his positions on women are wrong..

If you mean she was as intimate with an absurd amount of men, yes she has moved into hard-core adult content. That's why Only Fans dropped her, they prefer soft core where it's just solo women.

But there is much more sordid porn than that because some men have desires are truly fucked .up that makes her free for all seem tame. The men had to prove they were 18 , sign consent forms, and were made to wear condoms. What matters is that everyone was safe.

When people critique and insult women who do hard core porn (you haven't, I know) I sometimes wonder if they realise that males perform in porn also, the overwhelming majority of viewers are male, the people demanding more extreme abusive content against women are male, the owners of all the porn companies who distribute and get rich off the content are male.. yet men are rarely considered depraved not are they insulted. It's a double standard.

Again I know you haven't insulted anyone, it's just the age old double standard annoys me.

Maddog · Go Outside

Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Vam wrote:
😂 That’s a fair point.
This topic has put me off steak tartare for life
And sausages.
🤢…. Thing is, the name ‘Bonnie Blue’ barely even registered with me. Until today.
But that’s the thing about some of Diggs’ threads. They often make me go Google stuff I didn’t know I wanted to know! 😂
I didn't know much about her until Digs did a thread.! I had heard the name vaguely so due to the thread watched half the documentary. The woman filming remained pretty non judgemental about Bonnie until she agreed to meet Andrew Tate.
To me, that's worse than her sex work. I would be a hypocrite to critique anyone doing that anyway but agreeing to meet with a known sex trafficker and self confessed misogynist who tells young boys to disrespect women is worse imo than shagging consenting adult men.
She's sorta giving Tate the ammunition he needs..🤷
I'm off to bed but nice to speak to you Maddog. How so, are you saying because there are woman who do porn in the world Tate is justified in saying men should disrespect ALL women?
Incidentally not to get too heavy but without porn there would be more sex attacks on real women. Like I said at the end of the day it's men who watch the vast majority of porn and men who need it. Yet the women working in the industry get shamed.
She's well beyond "just doing porn".

Tate needs examples to justify what he says. She gives him one. Obviously most women don't, which is why his positions on women are wrong..
If you mean she was as intimate with an absurd amount of men, yes she has moved into hard-core adult content. That's why Only Fans dropped her, they prefer soft core where it's just solo women.
But there is much more sordid porn than that because some men have desires are truly fucked .up that makes her free for all seem tame. The men had to prove they were 18 , sign consent forms, and were made to wear condoms. What matters is that everyone was safe.
When people critique and insult women who do hard core porn (you haven't, I know) I sometimes wonder if they realise that males perform in porn also, the overwhelming majority of viewers are male, the people demanding more extreme abusive content against women are male, the owners of all the porn companies who distribute and get rich off the content are male.. yet men are rarely considered depraved not are they insulted. It's a double standard.
Again I know you haven't insulted anyone, it's just the age old double standard annoys me.

She's beyond hard core porn.

And I don't have problems with double standards.

I treat women differently than men, most women I know prefer that and I don't feel bad about it.

Date: Aug 5 3:45 PM, 2025

Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men

Why, and in what way?

Maddog · Go Outside

Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?

Log in.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?
Log in.

You are right to treat women differently to men. This ridiculous way of thinking that men and women are the same is barmy.

Date: Aug 5 5:21 PM, 2025

Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After reading here about this stunt, my own reaction is that despite it being consensual it's morally corrupt.

And it does raise the question - why did she do it?
Obviously, money is important to her.
She says she doesn't charge the men for sex, she makes her money from the people who watch it.
I think you would have to delve into her earlier life to get an inkling of why she has gone down such an extreme path of depravity. Her mother, who seems to value her paid holidays and lifestyle more than her daughters welfare might have something to do with it.

It does make me question what her mother’s life has been like as most want their kids to have a better life than their own and not just financially secure.

They might think it’s not a big deal funding their lifestyle the way they do but how many gullible kids are out there are now going to aim for the same…millionaire just by opening their legs. Abhorrent.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maybe this woman values money over self respect, or maybe the way she values herself has nothing to do with the way she uses her body to make money.
Personally I think she has taken leave of her senses. It's just a horrible extreme way of acting. The way she gleefully described what she does, is just sickening.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?
Log in.

Why do you think people would ask you that under Anon? It's not exactly a controversial take.

Date: Aug 5 5:49 PM, 2025

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?
Log in.
You are right to treat women differently to men. This ridiculous way of thinking that men and women are the same is barmy.

So, just out of interest, in what way would you expect someone to treat you differently from the way they would treat, let's say, your son or your husband?

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Vam wrote:
😂 That’s a fair point.
This topic has put me off steak tartare for life
And sausages.
🤢…. Thing is, the name ‘Bonnie Blue’ barely even registered with me. Until today.
But that’s the thing about some of Diggs’ threads. They often make me go Google stuff I didn’t know I wanted to know! 😂
I didn't know much about her until Digs did a thread.! I had heard the name vaguely so due to the thread watched half the documentary. The woman filming remained pretty non judgemental about Bonnie until she agreed to meet Andrew Tate.
To me, that's worse than her sex work. I would be a hypocrite to critique anyone doing that anyway but agreeing to meet with a known sex trafficker and self confessed misogynist who tells young boys to disrespect women is worse imo than shagging consenting adult men.
She's sorta giving Tate the ammunition he needs..🤷
I'm off to bed but nice to speak to you Maddog. How so, are you saying because there are woman who do porn in the world Tate is justified in saying men should disrespect ALL women?
Incidentally not to get too heavy but without porn there would be more sex attacks on real women. Like I said at the end of the day it's men who watch the vast majority of porn and men who need it. Yet the women working in the industry get shamed.
She's well beyond "just doing porn".

Tate needs examples to justify what he says. She gives him one. Obviously most women don't, which is why his positions on women are wrong..
If you mean she was as intimate with an absurd amount of men, yes she has moved into hard-core adult content. That's why Only Fans dropped her, they prefer soft core where it's just solo women.
But there is much more sordid porn than that because some men have desires are truly fucked .up that makes her free for all seem tame. The men had to prove they were 18 , sign consent forms, and were made to wear condoms. What matters is that everyone was safe.
When people critique and insult women who do hard core porn (you haven't, I know) I sometimes wonder if they realise that males perform in porn also, the overwhelming majority of viewers are male, the people demanding more extreme abusive content against women are male, the owners of all the porn companies who distribute and get rich off the content are male.. yet men are rarely considered depraved not are they insulted. It's a double standard.
Again I know you haven't insulted anyone, it's just the age old double standard annoys me.

She's beyond hard core porn.

And I don't have problems with double standards.

I treat women differently than men, most women I know prefer that and I don't feel bad about it.

She isn't.

Of course you don't have problems with that particular double standard, it benefits you. It's also a generational viewpoint.

I agree with your last point, that's the way it should be.

Barksdale · Getting Gobby

Fluffy wrote:
Barksdale wrote:
Ordinarily I would say it is up to consenting adults what they do with their bodies and the state shouldn't interfere with that. However, I do think what Bonnie Blue does is toxic and potentially really harmful by desensitising people to extreme porn that her activities should be curbed or her face prosecution. Further, anyone who wants to view extreme porn must be age verified and their identity established at a mimimum.
Also, I find something about Bonnie Blue's presentation reminds me of a waxwork. She seems to have this permanently shiny face and there is not much going on behind her eyes. It's a bit creepy.
She's only 26 and seems years older, I think the waxy look is down to botox or other cosmetic procedures she didn't need that for some reason women in their twenties are having.

Oh, that makes sense. Those cosmetic procedures can tighten the muscles in the face right meaning the person loses micro-expressions? That gives the impression of a mask rather than a human face we are used to seeing (incidentally this is one of the best arguments against face coverings as so much non verbal information is given by the face during communication so that is a real barrier to proper communication.)

Barksdale · Getting Gobby

Syl wrote:
I actually think, more than ever, some men just don't like women nowadays.

Sadly I think this is true, but it's definitely more pronounced online (and works both ways. Some things I see some women saying about men online is also heinous.)

I think social media has crowded out people who talk about love and intimacy because it just doesn't grab as much attention as overly sexualised, vitriolic content. It elevates the worst voices and then conditions people to act in a way which may be completely contrary to their best interests. Everything seems to be based around transactional relationships (if I do x for woman I expect her to y in return etc.) Modern dating seems like a complete hellscape.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?
Log in.
You are right to treat women differently to men. This ridiculous way of thinking that men and women are the same is barmy.

So, just out of interest, in what way would you expect someone to treat you differently from the way they would treat, let's say, your son or your husband?

Physically gentler for a start.

I like men to perhaps give up a seat, hold a door open, stand back to let me go first....many things that some women find insulting in some way....I dont.

I don't expect it, but I do welcome it.

This in no way makes a woman less equal, it just makes them different.

Fluffy · Getting Gobby

Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
After reading here about this stunt, my own reaction is that despite it being consensual it's morally corrupt.

And it does raise the question - why did she do it?
Obviously, money is important to her.
She says she doesn't charge the men for sex, she makes her money from the people who watch it.
I think you would have to delve into her earlier life to get an inkling of why she has gone down such an extreme path of depravity. Her mother, who seems to value her paid holidays and lifestyle more than her daughters welfare might have something to do with it.
It does make me question what her mother’s life has been like as most want their kids to have a better life than their own and not just financially secure.
They might think it’s not a big deal funding their lifestyle the way they do but how many gullible kids are out there are now going to aim for the same…millionaire just by opening their legs. Abhorrent.

Many 18 year old's(approx 1 in 10 in the UK) were deciding to go on OnlyFans way before Bonnie Blue rocked up. I don't know why the media are giving her so much publicity.

She was kicked off the platform for going too far, she is an anomaly in that regard. Most girls aren't having intimacy with men on camera. The younger generation have a one night stand culture that no longer shames women in the way it once did so younger generations accept this content far more readily.

1000 men is a lot though and I do think she would feel trauma after that experience. She insists no and like a to portray herself as a business woman but she looked and felt ill after the incident.

Barksdale · Getting Gobby

Fluffy wrote:

She isn't.

Beyond hardcore porn do you mean? I think she is absolutely beyond that (in the same way as the violent and harmful content made by male performers / producers is which you have discussed in this thread.)

A double standard does exist but it doesn't absolve her for responsibility for her actions. She is normalising extreme sexual acts which in turn will drive demand for that content. The women who will be drawn to making similar content I suspect will be vulnerable and open to exploitation in the first place - women who come from a place of severe trauma such as being sexually abused before.

We should not encourage it to any degree.

Vam · Musing at the Chaos

Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?
Log in.
You are right to treat women differently to men. This ridiculous way of thinking that men and women are the same is barmy.

So, just out of interest, in what way would you expect someone to treat you differently from the way they would treat, let's say, your son or your husband?
Physically gentler for a start.
I like men to perhaps give up a seat, hold a door open, stand back to let me go first....many things that some women find insulting in some way....I dont.
I don't expect it, but I do welcome it.
This in no way makes a woman less equal, it just makes them different.

✅ to all of that!

Whenever we walked along a roadside pavement, my husband used to make a point of always walking on the part nearest to the passing traffic.

It’s the little things…

Maddog · Go Outside

Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Vam wrote:
😂 That’s a fair point.
This topic has put me off steak tartare for life
And sausages.
🤢…. Thing is, the name ‘Bonnie Blue’ barely even registered with me. Until today.
But that’s the thing about some of Diggs’ threads. They often make me go Google stuff I didn’t know I wanted to know! 😂
I didn't know much about her until Digs did a thread.! I had heard the name vaguely so due to the thread watched half the documentary. The woman filming remained pretty non judgemental about Bonnie until she agreed to meet Andrew Tate.
To me, that's worse than her sex work. I would be a hypocrite to critique anyone doing that anyway but agreeing to meet with a known sex trafficker and self confessed misogynist who tells young boys to disrespect women is worse imo than shagging consenting adult men.
She's sorta giving Tate the ammunition he needs..🤷
I'm off to bed but nice to speak to you Maddog. How so, are you saying because there are woman who do porn in the world Tate is justified in saying men should disrespect ALL women?
Incidentally not to get too heavy but without porn there would be more sex attacks on real women. Like I said at the end of the day it's men who watch the vast majority of porn and men who need it. Yet the women working in the industry get shamed.
She's well beyond "just doing porn".

Tate needs examples to justify what he says. She gives him one. Obviously most women don't, which is why his positions on women are wrong..
If you mean she was as intimate with an absurd amount of men, yes she has moved into hard-core adult content. That's why Only Fans dropped her, they prefer soft core where it's just solo women.
But there is much more sordid porn than that because some men have desires are truly fucked .up that makes her free for all seem tame. The men had to prove they were 18 , sign consent forms, and were made to wear condoms. What matters is that everyone was safe.
When people critique and insult women who do hard core porn (you haven't, I know) I sometimes wonder if they realise that males perform in porn also, the overwhelming majority of viewers are male, the people demanding more extreme abusive content against women are male, the owners of all the porn companies who distribute and get rich off the content are male.. yet men are rarely considered depraved not are they insulted. It's a double standard.
Again I know you haven't insulted anyone, it's just the age old double standard annoys me.

She's beyond hard core porn.

And I don't have problems with double standards.

I treat women differently than men, most women I know prefer that and I don't feel bad about it.
She isn't.
Of course you don't have problems with that particular double standard, it benefits you. It's also a generational viewpoint.
I agree with your last point, that's the way it should be.

Most double standards don't benefit me.

Think of the double standard that was applied after the Titanic hit that iceberg.

Who benefited?

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Maddog wrote:

I treat women differently than men
Why, and in what way?
Log in.
You are right to treat women differently to men. This ridiculous way of thinking that men and women are the same is barmy.

So, just out of interest, in what way would you expect someone to treat you differently from the way they would treat, let's say, your son or your husband?
Physically gentler for a start.
I like men to perhaps give up a seat, hold a door open, stand back to let me go first....many things that some women find insulting in some way....I dont.
I don't expect it, but I do welcome it.
This in no way makes a woman less equal, it just makes them different.
✅ to all of that!

Whenever we walked along a roadside pavement, my husband used to make a point of always walking on the part nearest to the passing traffic.
It’s the little things…

Little things do count Vam. It's showing respect and care....though I think some find the word respect a bit twee now, and that is their right, as is mine and yours to think these things still count.