ChaoticMusings

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Digger wrote:

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Tomorrow at 10am Julia Hartley Brewer on Talk TV is interviewing Bonnie Blue.    That should be interesting as Hartley Brewer takes no prisoners

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 For anyone interested...

 

 

 

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 “The sex I’m having is very…pleshooriboll”

Nope. Had to tune out after just a couple of minutes. 

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Fluffy wrote:

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 What societal issues cause Incels?

 

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 Maybe the ease of access to porn sites for impressionable youngsters gives them a distorted and view of women? Just a thought.

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 Without a doubt.    

Incels are the type who'd never have a healthy relationship with a woman, but they don't get that it's nothing to do with looks or money but the fact that they are downright twisted and creepy.   

Women don't do creepy.  End of.

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Fluffy wrote:

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 What societal issues cause Incels?

 

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 Maybe the ease of access to porn sites for impressionable youngsters gives them a distorted and view of women? Just a thought.

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 Yes but I was addressing Maddog,, I was interested in his take on it. 

Btw the Government has now restricted porn to over 18's only, and they mean business. Only debit card receipts will do or photographic I.D. as proof.

Something this Government has actually done right!

But Fluffy, why do think so many men have that attitude now?

When you have porn so available, especially extreme porn like Bonnie Blue and others allow, surely you must see that it's harming the men just as much as the women.
She is encouraging men to pee and spit on her, slap and strangle her...rearrange her body, FGS, she is simply a product making fortunes out of men, so if a man is including himself as one of her customers, be it in reality or online, no wonder his attitude towards women is skewed.

Like several here have said, it dehumanises all women in some mens minds, especially when they haven't been out there mixing with real life women.

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But Fluffy, why do think so many men have that attitude now?

When you have porn so available, especially extreme porn like Bonnie Blue and others allow, surely you must see that it's harming the men just as much as the women.
She is encouraging men to pee and spit on her, slap and strangle her...rearrange her body, FGS, she is simply a product making fortunes out of men, so if a man is including himself as one of her customers, be it in reality or online, no wonder his attitude towards women is skewed.

Like several here have said, it dehumanises all women in some mens minds, especially when they haven't been out there mixing with real life women.

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 Men know that porn stars of both sexes have sex for money. If they have an ounce of intelligence they will not use the words and actions of one woman who has been curiously and imo cynically thrust(sorry!) into the media spotlight to judge ALL women.

Teenagers and young men who have been raised to respect women by their parents know better than to make fun of their female teachers just because Andrew Tate says women are worthless or because there are women in porn. They know better and they don't care. They WANT to disrespect women or "voids," as they sometimes call women because apparently women act soul less, so they do.

it's men that seek out porn  and are the majority of viewers of porn. It's men who dictate the trends of porn and they wanted to see more violent conduct towards women. Obviously this is not true for all men. I'm talking about the Incels and the men who listen to influencers citing women are stupid and boring. and only good for one thing. This is nothing to do with adult content, most of these men genuinely find women boring and have nothing in common with them.

Imagine if these "influencers" we're saying gay people  or just black women were worthless and not as good as men, that content would be seen as hate speech and not be tolerated by social.media. But because it's just women these men can be as abusive and base as they like. And there is NO female equivalent whatsoever that matches these male sites in sheer hatred and loathing for the opposite sex.

I'm sorry Syl but I cannot accept these men are victims because there is a woman in porn who has been  put in the limelight to shame and ridicule when it's men who watch her and have made her rich!

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Maddog wrote:

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"Galloway". My bad.

 

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 I agree with everything he said.

But MD some young men are so bitter because of their crush knocking them back 5 years ago  or stuck listening to the Andrew Tate  narrative they don't WANT  to provide or protect women.

Underneath a YouTube video explaining how more and more women are being attacked by men on the underground and nobody comes to their aid, men in the comments section sneer"Why should we come to their aid? Women are strong and independent aren't they?"

I knew they were being sarcastic so I suggested nobody was asking them to intervene if they saw a woman being assaulted but maybe attempt to call the police? "Women have eyes..They can call the police" If there are no other women present? The men told me bluntly that if women went back to.being submissive they would be a protector and provider. But at the moment women don't "deserve " it. The women being assaulted were literally being groped by gangs of men and the men were quite happy to  let it happen and not get involved.

I have spoken with these men. Their bitterness has to.be seen to be believed. They want life to return to the 1950's where men were guaranteed a wife if they had their own teeth and a decent wage. They don't want to improve as people, some can't be bothered to work and I.understand they were lonely and bordering on being depressed even if they didn't.

They clearly lived their life online. But their attitude towards women, who they blamed for everything going wrong in their live, was so cold and  indifferent😐  I worry about those type of men who would laugh at that video saying "Why should we protect those bit*hes?" They have retreated to an adolescent  mindset, they see no future, and blame women for that for  one not being their girlfriend and making them socially acceptable .. They don't consider it's their attitude that is repelling women.

 

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 I didn't say they didn't exist. I'm telling you how they get primed to fall for Tates shit..

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Being a mum and nan to boys, I have seen very clearly that they have to be guided, they learn by example, and teaching a boy to respect women is a very important lesson, especially nowadays where there are so many negative influences at the touch of a keypad.
The vast majority of men who have been raised to respect women are not the ones that are influenced by Tate or Bonnie Blue and her like, but not all young men are raised to respect women, the breakdown in family has seen to that over the last couple of generations.

If you think this woman isn't damaging to other young men and women, I don't agree.
SHE may be well protected, but the men who watch her antics, and see how she loves to be abused, then try it on with their own girlfriends...who is protecting hose girls?


The numbers showing reported rapes in England and Wales, risen from 16000 to 73000 in just over a decade, the overwhelming availability to porn, don't you see any connection?

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 People don't need to be guided to know that abusing women are wrong, humans know this innately. But there are nasty pieces of work who simply do not care.

The youngest generation have far lower testosterone levels  than previous generations.and are generally less masculine. Maddog stated the reasons more negative attitudes occur towards women aswell as sexual violence, young men play video games and isolate themselves.

They remain adolescents mentally. Social.media, the Manosphere in particular Andrew Tate and his ilk saying women are worthless and won't want you unless you look like Brad Pitt in his prime (but young women don't say this or think it!) influence young men to be violent. They are literally being brainwashed which is what the acclaimed drama "Adolescence" tried to address, it wasn't women in porn that caused fatal violence but the poisonous influence of The Manosphere.

 Studies support that countries with more relaxed attitudes to porn and sex in general have less rates of violent crime against women. The below statistics are from the source 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/unique-everybody-else/202005/the-link-between-attitudes-sex-work-and-gender-equality

However, these negative claims about sex work are contradicted by the fact that modern sexually liberal societies in which pornography circulates freely also happen to be the most progressive in terms of women’s rights, while sexually restrictive societies in which prostitution and pornography are harshly suppressed also tend to be those in which women have the fewest legal protections and are most likely to be subjected to institutionalized violence (McNair, 2014). It is also worth pointing out that, despite assertions that access to pornography leads men to rape and abuse women, increased availability of access to pornography in Western countries has been associated with reductions in rates of sexual offending (McNair, 2014). 

Syl wrote:

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Fluffy wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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But Fluffy, why do think so many men have that attitude now?

When you have porn so available, especially extreme porn like Bonnie Blue and others allow, surely you must see that it's harming the men just as much as the women.
She is encouraging men to pee and spit on her, slap and strangle her...rearrange her body, FGS, she is simply a product making fortunes out of men, so if a man is including himself as one of her customers, be it in reality or online, no wonder his attitude towards women is skewed.

Like several here have said, it dehumanises all women in some mens minds, especially when they haven't been out there mixing with real life women.

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 Men know that porn stars of both sexes have sex for money. If they have an ounce of intelligence they will not use the words and actions of one woman who has been curiously and imo cynically thrust(sorry!) into the media spotlight to judge ALL women.

Teenagers and young men who have been raised to respect women by their parents know better than to make fun of their female teachers just because Andrew Tate says women are worthless or because there are women in porn. They know better and they don't care. They WANT to disrespect women or "voids," as they sometimes call women because apparently women act soul less, so they do.

it's men that seek out porn  and are the majority of viewers of porn. It's men who dictate the trends of porn and they wanted to see more violent conduct towards women. Obviously this is not true for all men. I'm talking about the Incels and the men who listen to influencers citing women are stupid and boring. and only good for one thing. This is nothing to do with adult content, most of these men genuinely find women boring and have nothing in common with them.

Imagine if these "influencers" we're saying gay people  or just black women were worthless and not as good as men, that content would be seen as hate speech and not be tolerated by social.media. But because it's just women these men can be as abusive and base as they like. And there is NO female equivalent whatsoever that matches these male sites in sheer hatred and loathing for the opposite sex.

I'm sorry Syl but I cannot accept these men are victims because there is a woman in porn who has been  put in the limelight to shame and ridicule when it's men who watch her and have made her rich!

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 She has put herself in the spotlight by her extreme stunts and her interviews. Her goal is money, but the price she is paying is her spirit. That girl looks and sounds emotionless and cold, yet she claims she loves what she does.

I think she is fooling herself, what sane woman wants to be used as a free fuck machine to every man who fancies a quickie? Old, young, fat, thin, dirty, clean, she is being abused, and deep down she knows it.

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 Clearly she is not your normal woman. But Bonnie Blue is not to blame for male rapists abusing women.  

I am not sure why Channel 4 highlighted her and thought it suitable to make a programme about one female in porn when there is a myriad of horrible child pornography  and far far more violent adult content being distributed by men.  I don't even like discussing this but don't like the victim blaming  that you seem to.be claiming but I'm not sure.

I find the singling out of Bonnie Blue  in the media troubling and I view it cynically when there is far more dangerous pornography distributed which really is a criminal concern.I don't like the woman, she is very cold but I believe she does genuinely enjoy sex which is not a crime.  But men who choose to assault women are to blame for that assault them and then alone. There are plenty of men who watch Bonnie Blue and other porn and don't hurt women or think any less of women just because women in porn exist.

I will shut up now. Thank goodness everyone thinks!

Fluffy wrote:

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 Clearly she is not your normal woman. But Bonnie Blue is not to blame for male rapists abusing women.  

I am not sure why Channel 4 highlighted her and thought it suitable to make a programme about one female in porn when there is a myriad of horrible child pornography  and far far more violent adult content being distributed by men.  I don't even like discussing this but don't like the victim blaming  that you seem to.be claiming but I'm not sure.

I find the singling out of Bonnie Blue  in the media troubling and I view it cynically when there is far more dangerous pornography distributed which really is a criminal concern.I don't like the woman, she is very cold but I believe she does genuinely enjoy sex which is not a crime.  But men who choose to assault women are to blame for that assault them and then alone. There are plenty of men who watch Bonnie Blue and other porn and don't hurt women or think any less of women just because women in porn exist.

I will shut up now. Thank goodness everyone thinks!

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 Her notoriety and self promotion has ensured she's all over the internet and most kids have access to that.  She knows that and doesn't care.   Why can't she just do this in private?   We all know the answer to that.