ChaoticMusings

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Barksdale wrote:

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Fluffy wrote:

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People are responsible for their own actions.

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 This is related to my previous post today but most actions occur due to unconscious motivations that we do not think about. Those motivations can become conditioned through the influences we get from the environment around us and societal messages from say religion, our parents, our community and so on.

 

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 Good point. Who has the insight or willingness to admit 'I am not the master in my own house'? We're driven by things we're not consciously aware of.

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 I'm not quite sure what that means..do you mean men don't feel in charge of their partners and children?  I think times have moved on now and loving relationships are based on mutual love and respect, no one is in charge of the other.

But I'm not sure that is what you mean or how it relates to the discussion. Syl seems to understand it though..I feel a tad daft. 

Fluffy wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Men, especially young men who compulsively view porn , probably don't realise it's possibly damaging their real life relationships, till it's too late.
The same as women who use some exotic and energetic artificial aids for sexual pleasure, don't realise they can deaden their response to a mere human penis.

People sometimes are their own worse enemy.

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 I can't understand sex toys.  What the hell is that all about?   And why would you prefer it to the real thing?

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 I have no idea, I have never used one. But sometimes, listening to women talk, it seems like many other women, even women with partners, just take them for granted.

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 What are their partners doing that "many other women " (stats,?) don't appreciate ?

 

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 Some of them are joining in.

If you ever want to be educated about matters of a sexual nature, join Mumsnet.

The idea that they are all middle class, middle-aged, tweed wearing, tree hugging, women's institute types...is far from the truth.

Bonnie Blue and her antics represent everything that is wrong with the world.   Cheap.  Promiscuous.  Immoral.  Avaricious.  Debauched.  Base. Sleazy.  Entitled. Amoral. Deluded. Narcissistic.

Anonymous wrote:

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Fluffy wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Barksdale wrote:

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Fluffy wrote:

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People are responsible for their own actions.

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 This is related to my previous post today but most actions occur due to unconscious motivations that we do not think about. Those motivations can become conditioned through the influences we get from the environment around us and societal messages from say religion, our parents, our community and so on.

 

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 Good point. Who has the insight or willingness to admit 'I am not the master in my own house'? We're driven by things we're not consciously aware of.

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 I'm not quite sure what that means..do you mean men don't feel in charge of their partners and children?  I think times have moved on now and loving relationships are based on mutual love and respect, no one is in charge of the other.

But I'm not sure that is what you mean or how it relates to the discussion. Syl seems to understand it though..I feel a tad daft. 

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 It's not meant literally; it's a metaphor for how one's ego likes to think it's in control but often it isn't. It was in response to Barksdale's comment about how things we do can be driven by unconscious forces. And yes you're right, nothing to do with Bonnie Blue.

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 Thank you for replying and clarifying.

A lot of people can't admit when they have done something wrong (in real life more than forums)and that's ego driven. But I see no shame in admitting I'm wrong about something  (maybe because I have  had  so much flipping practice !) or admitting  I don't understand something as I did with you. 

We are all human and everyone makes mistakes. Sorry to go off on a totally different tangent !

Syl wrote:

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Fluffy wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Men, especially young men who compulsively view porn , probably don't realise it's possibly damaging their real life relationships, till it's too late.
The same as women who use some exotic and energetic artificial aids for sexual pleasure, don't realise they can deaden their response to a mere human penis.

People sometimes are their own worse enemy.

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 I can't understand sex toys.  What the hell is that all about?   And why would you prefer it to the real thing?

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 I have no idea, I have never used one. But sometimes, listening to women talk, it seems like many other women, even women with partners, just take them for granted.

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 What are their partners doing that "many other women " (stats,?) don't appreciate ?

 

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 Some of them are joining in.

If you ever want to be educated about matters of a sexual nature, join Mumsnet.

The idea that they are all middle class, middle-aged, tweed wearing, tree hugging, women's institute types...is far from the truth.

 

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 Nooo way, I have heard of the perils of Mumsnet and don't want to know about their antics!  

If Digger didn't last a day they sound like a clique who are judgemental and aren't interested in learning from other people.  And hypocritical if they judge others while swinging from the chandeliers!

Fluffy wrote:

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Syl wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Bonnie Blue and her antics represent everything that is wrong with the world.   Cheap.  Promiscuous.  Immoral.  Avaricious.  Debauched.  Base. Sleazy.  Entitled. Amoral. Deluded. Narcissistic.

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 The rot has been setting in for a good while. It wasn't that long ago Katie Price was (in some teen magazine poll) voted the woman most girls aspired to be like....it could only go downhill from there.

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 I feel sorry for Katie Price and wish her Mum would have a word. She is another who made a million on OnlyFans only to lose it (making a million on that site isn't commonplace btw although I wouldn't blame you for thinking otherwise!)

She has gone WAY too far with the plastic surgery, and frankly  looks gaunt and unwell. The face can only take so much surgery. She definitely suffers from body dismorphia. She.was naturally pretty with brown curly hair when she started out and a normal sized chest. But again, she was rewarded financially by men when she became more sexual.

When I heard her give an interview saying surgery would help her look hotter than her son's girlfriend I cringed. I don't really care about her profession, it's her narcissistic personality I don't like. Why on earth would she want to compete with her son's girlfriend who is half her age? And doesn't she care about how these public declarations make her son feel??

She's had her time, it's a bit like when ageing rockstars bring out material that is nothing like their best. I do feel sorry for her because she has all these half hearted unions with random men and it's obvious she doesn't care about them. They are glorified accessories. She had the man she loved and didn't think he would actually leave.

I'm no fan of Andre but she really was horrible to him and now he has a naturally beautiful wife who treats him like he's human and the healthy family dynamic that she desperately craves. If he said he wanted her back she would be there like a shot. Sadly he never will.

 

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 When she met Peter Andre, in front of millions, in IACGMOOH, I thought they made a great couple, and it's very sad, that for whatever reasons, their marriage didn't last.

She definately has some sort of self desructive gene going on....no one messes around with their life and looks, the way she has, for any sane reason.

I actually feel really sorry for her now, but the fact that young girls ever saw her as a good role model and someone they wanted to emulate, is very worrying. Why would girls of 12 and 13 think taking their kit off for a living is better than actually educating themselves and earning respect for their achievements?

Sadly, even since then, maybe 15 years ago, thanks to like of Bonnie Blue and her ilk, just taking tops off (like the page 3 girls did of old) would be seen as pretty boring now.