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I’m trying not to be judgy, and I’m still making allowances for the fact that Erika Kirk is deeply mourning her loss. But is this ‘Hallmark movie‘ grieving? 😳 And then posting it on Instagram? Sorry, but for me it’s no…..just no……

https://x.com/patriotug2023/status/1966868118283964683?s=61

What do you think?

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 When the American Civil War resulted in the freedom of all slaves, hundreds of thousandsof them died of starvation because they were displaced and the North, who fought so hard to free them, still considered them inferior.  Nobody wanted to give them jobs or feed them.   

Many ended up in encampments near union army bases. However, conditions were unsanitary and food supplies limited. Some of these camps were actually former slave pens, meaning newly freed people ended up being kept virtual prisoners back in the same cells that had previously held them. In many such camps disease and hunger led to countless deaths. Often the only way to leave the camp was to agree to go back to work on the very same plantations from which the slaves had recently escaped.

So bad were the health problems suffered by freed slaves, and so high the death rates, that it was observed that they would all die out. 

So, in our 21st century ignorance, we presume that the abolition of slavery at that time was so wonderful everyone thrived and skipped happily into the sunset.  The truth was very different and what the African Americans suffered in the ensuing decades was even more hideous than the slavery.   Google Jesse Washington if you dare.

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It is always the same.   When Britain and America bombed the hell out of Libya in support of the overthrow of Gaddafi, they let Libya fall apart under tribal sectarianism afterwards.  Britain and American Money People got what they wanted: access to relatively cheap oil from North Africa.   The British and American Patriots were happy - they had "given Libya its freedom".  Meanwhile with no strong man in charge of Libya ISIS and others started up the mass flow of migrants / "refugees" from Africa into Europe through Libya heralding in the Migration Crisis of today.   Consequences.  Similarly with the support of Syrian Rebels against strong man Assad of Syria who has now been overthrown.  

Somewhat similarly The American Civil was started by the Northern territories of the Union who refused to accept the secession of the Southern Confederate States.  History has dressed it up as a moral crusade against slave ownership whereas in reality it was all about power and anti-democracy.   Hence once the war was won by the North and the slaves set free there was no follow up.   Former slave owning states were allowed to pass the Jim Crow Laws that allowed freed slaves to be treated as second class citizens and racially segregated from whites.   

The concepts of nferior status based on race preceded the Civil War with the treatment of the Natives Americans and that continued with renewed intensity post Civil War.

Todays Progressives have been mass educated by universities and schools, or brainwashed by the BBC and others into brain dead stupidity.

Vam wrote:

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I’m trying not to be judgy, and I’m still making allowances for the fact that Erika Kirk is deeply mourning her loss. But is this ‘Hallmark movie‘ grieving? 😳 And then posting it on Instagram? Sorry, but for me it’s no…..just no……

https://x.com/patriotug2023/status/1966868118283964683?s=61

What do you think?

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 I don't think I'm going to judge a widow of two kids under 3. 

But you do you..

Vam wrote:

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I’m trying not to be judgy, and I’m still making allowances for the fact that Erika Kirk is deeply mourning her loss. But is this ‘Hallmark movie‘ grieving? 😳 And then posting it on Instagram? Sorry, but for me it’s no…..just no……

https://x.com/patriotug2023/status/1966868118283964683?s=61

What do you think?

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 In this day and age younger people chronicle just about everything on line.  Not something I'd do but then I'm from a different generation as are you, and most of us on here.

It's her choice, and it's a deliberate fuck you to all the trolls who laughed at his death.  It's no doubt designed to garner even more sympathy, which I personally don't think she needs, she has it anyway from most people. 

To be clear, I was shocked and saddened that Charlie Kirk’s young life was so brutally cut short. As Syl said a few pages back, no one deserves that.

And of course his widow has every right to grieve in whatever way she sees fit. But that doesn’t mean I have to agree with every move she makes.

Judging by her creepy, almost menacing, public statements barely 48hrs after her husband was killed, and now this public weeping over his open casket, my prediction is that she’s more than ready willing and able to pick up and handle what her husband left behind. And she will probably prove to be much more far-Right than he was, btw.

The Turning Point USA behemoth will keep trundling on - gotta keep monetising that awful tragedy. Almost $3million raised for the Kirk family, so far, even though Charlie’s personal wealth was (reportedly) around $12million.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/americans-shatter-fundraising-records-after-charlie-kirks-tragic-death-university-event

As I’ve said before, evangelicals and trump must be ecstatic right about now. Because that pimply dipshit kid and his rifle have probably gifted Republicans a resounding win in the 2026 midterms.

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Vam wrote:

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 Just adding to Avon’s post, for anyone interested.

Even when it’s fluffed up with passages from the bible, I know hate speech when I see/hear it  There’s no sane-washing hate speech. 

https://x.com/cooperstreaming/status/1966699610610823349?s=61

 

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He's been described as a 'moderate'; if that's the case I dread to think what's extreme. Glad you see him for what he was, also agree about the tacky coffin video. But you won't get much in the way of agreement or support on this site bearing in mind where most of its regulars sit on the political spectrum.

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 Don't presume to know what members on this site are thinking. Just concentrate on your own opinions.

Vam wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Vam wrote:

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I’m trying not to be judgy, and I’m still making allowances for the fact that Erika Kirk is deeply mourning her loss. But is this ‘Hallmark movie‘ grieving? 😳 And then posting it on Instagram? Sorry, but for me it’s no…..just no……

https://x.com/patriotug2023/status/1966868118283964683?s=61

What do you think?

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 In this day and age younger people chronicle just about everything on line.  Not something I'd do but then I'm from a different generation as are you, and most of us on here.

It's her choice, and it's a deliberate fuck you to all the trolls who laughed at his death.  It's no doubt designed to garner even more sympathy, which I personally don't think she needs, she has it anyway from most people. 

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 It’s one thing to make your mates’ eyes glaze over, by posting Insta clips of the food on your dinner plate. But this, Diggs? Seriously?!

I hope you’ve figured out by now that I’m not easily offended, but this has shaken (& saddened) me a bit…it’s just too raw for public consumption. 

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 I think people react differently when the unexpected happens. Like Digger said, older generations don't live their lives out online, for many younger ones, it's their way of life.

I can't help but think that perhaps, like many married couples, they talked about what would happen and how they would act, if the unthinkable happened, which it has.

It does look rehearsed and staged, and Ithough 'm sure she feels very broken inside,  she is showing the public, via her online presence, that she is strong and the haters haven't won.

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Vam wrote:

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 It’s one thing to make your mates’ eyes glaze over, by posting Insta clips of the food on your dinner plate. But this, Diggs? Seriously?!

I hope you’ve figured out by now that I’m not easily offended, but this has shaken (& saddened) me a bit…it’s just too raw for public consumption. 

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 I think people react differently when the unexpected happens. Like Digger said, older generations don't live their lives out online, for many younger ones, it's their way of life.

I can't help but think that perhaps, like many married couples, they talked about what would happen and how they would act, if the unthinkable happened, which it has.

It does look rehearsed and staged, and Ithough 'm sure she feels very broken inside,  she is showing the public, via her online presence, that she is strong and the haters haven't won.

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 Syl, my lovely - it’s great to see how you always try to inject some balance into discussions. And I do get what you’re saying.

But mark my words, early indications certainly give me the impression that Erika Kirk knows exactly what she’s doing, and she’ll opportunistically allow trump and his cabal to exploit her tragedy as the clarion call, all the way to the midterms.

The Republicans in congress are already cancelling public appearances/town hall Q&As in their districts. They’re also demanding funding for extra security wherever they go.

Sure, it seems reasonable in the light of this week’s tragedy. But ask yourself, why should they make much effort to campaign in 2026, when all they have to do is prominently feature Charlie Kirk’s assassination in every one of their campaign ads? 

Vam wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Vam wrote:

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Digger wrote:

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Vam wrote:

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I’m trying not to be judgy, and I’m still making allowances for the fact that Erika Kirk is deeply mourning her loss. But is this ‘Hallmark movie‘ grieving? 😳 And then posting it on Instagram? Sorry, but for me it’s no…..just no……

https://x.com/patriotug2023/status/1966868118283964683?s=61

What do you think?

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 In this day and age younger people chronicle just about everything on line.  Not something I'd do but then I'm from a different generation as are you, and most of us on here.

It's her choice, and it's a deliberate fuck you to all the trolls who laughed at his death.  It's no doubt designed to garner even more sympathy, which I personally don't think she needs, she has it anyway from most people. 

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 It’s one thing to make your mates’ eyes glaze over, by posting Insta clips of the food on your dinner plate. But this, Diggs? Seriously?!

I hope you’ve figured out by now that I’m not easily offended, but this has shaken (& saddened) me a bit…it’s just too raw for public consumption. 

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 I take it you've never seen the parents of dead babies etc filming it all for social media?  Dead babies hands in theirs.  Dead babies swaddled etc.  And let's not forget the very old practice of photographing the dead which psychologically helped with the grieving process.   Whole families would pose with the deceased, and I'm sure if there was a movie to be had they'd have filmed it.

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 Thankfully, very rarely have I seen any of that, and only in passing.

There‘s no textbook on how to grieve - each to their own, I guess. I’m pretty sure Erika Kirks’s choreographed ‘Insta grieving’ upset many widows, though. It sure AF did upset me.

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 Another's method  or needs of grieving for whatever reason is really no affair of anyone but the person grieving.  No doubt she'll get trolled to fuck for that too.