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Red Okktober wrote:

I read a book about Son of Sam 30+ years ago - the things that stuck with me were that he used to creep up to cars and shoot young couples, and that he heard voices in his head, maybe from a dog.

A good book about murderers is the Jigsaw Man by Paul Britton, a forensic pyschologist - he covers lots of famous cases, including Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon Common, and the honey trap set up to wrongfully snare Colin Stagg


 I'll keep an eye out for that.  I love reading, and while I don't like crime fiction i do like real life crime stories.



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 Edit: my memory, or lack of, was bugging me re the dog so found this via Google AI…

” Serial killer David Berkowitz ("Son of Sam") initially claimed that demonic voices instructing him to murder were communicated to him through his neighbor's Labrador Retriever, "Harvey," which belonged to a man named Sam Carr. He later confessed that the talking dog story was a complete fabrication.

Berkowitz admitted the deception to authorities and mental health experts in 1979, stating he invented the demon-possessed dog tale to establish an insanity defense and evade responsibility for his crimes. In reality, the voices were a hoax he used to manipulate the public. He ultimately pleaded guilty to the murders and is serving consecutive life sentences.”
 

 Well cleared up anon -  I had it in  my head that the dog was called Sam, not the dog owner!



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 I'll keep an eye out for that.  I love reading, and while I don't like crime fiction i do like real life crime stories.


 There's a lot of gruesome details that were kept out of the news at the time. He also covers the Jamie Bulger murder and Fred and Rosemary West. 

He talks about the thigh bones of one on the skeletons dug up in the West's garden - it had markings on it that indicated the flesh was carved off similar to how you would carve a kebab.



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 I'll keep an eye out for that.  I love reading, and while I don't like crime fiction i do like real life crime stories.


 There's a lot of gruesome details that were kept out of the news at the time. He also covers the Jamie Bulger murder and Fred and Rosemary West. 

He talks about the thigh bones of one on the skeletons dug up in the West's garden - it had markings on it that indicated the flesh was carved off similar to how you would carve a kebab.


 I'm about a third of the way through.   He's just been dealing with that baby food poisoner.   And I keep guessing shit  before he says it... perhaps I missed my vocation.  lol



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 I'm about a third of the way through.   He's just been dealing with that baby food poisoner.   And I keep guessing shit  before he says it... perhaps I missed my vocation.  lol


Oh you managed to find a copy - I read mine on the beach and it was covered in holiday stains and the pages were falling out by the time I finished it, so chucked it away, and I've forgotten a lot of the cases he covered.

I have only vague memories of the baby food person - did he use broken glass as well as poison?

Well done of the guesses!



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 I'm about a third of the way through.   He's just been dealing with that baby food poisoner.   And I keep guessing shit  before he says it... perhaps I missed my vocation.  lol


Oh you managed to find a copy - I read mine on the beach and it was covered in holiday stains and the pages were falling out by the time I finished it, so chucked it away, and I've forgotten a lot of the cases he covered.

I have only vague memories of the baby food person - did he use broken glass as well as poison?

Well done of the guesses!


 He used Lye and bits of razor blades.    It was this incident which ended up with all our food being sealed with tamper proof lids and openings.



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I can't think of a name bad enough for these two.   Even filthy dirty paedo monster cunt, won't do.

 

A secondary school teacher has today been found guilty of the shocking sexual abuse and murder of a baby he and his partner were adopting.

Jamie Varley, 37, faces a life sentence over the tragic death of 13-month-old Preston Davey, who suffocated during sexual abuse.

His partner John McGowan-Fazakerley, 32, a sales manager for a finance company, was also convicted of charges including causing or allowing Preston’s death and jointly participating in a sickening sexual assault.

Prosecutors said it was one of the 'most shocking and horrific' cases they have ever dealt with. 

Perverted pair Varley and McGowan-Fazakerley were an outwardly respectable, middle-class couple living in an immaculate home in Blackpool.

But they were found to have carried out what prosecutor Peter Wright KC described as ‘a litany of psychological and sexual ill-treatment’.

Varley initially put his hand to his mouth as the jury foreman read out the verdicts - before collapsing and being sick in the dock. 

McGowan-Fazakerley stood motionless in the dock. 

Mr Wright said that instead of being given a loving home, over the near four-month period he was with the couple, Preston had been used as a ‘plaything’ to satisfy Varley’s desires.

As the jury returned its verdicts, Preston's grandmother Debbie Davey called for social workers to be sacked after it emerged there were a string of missed chances to save him from harm.

But Mrs Davey added: 'I'm so relieved, I'm happy it's all over.' 

It can now also be revealed Preston was the son of notorious murderer Sarah Davey, now 42, who as a 14-year-old murdered Lily Lilley, 71.

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Look at his dear little face.   I'm speechless.   Oh, that monster is going to die in prison, I'm sure of it.   Dead before the year is out.



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That filthy fat paedo pig raped that baby until he suffocated.   I feel like screaming it's so fucking horrible.



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I can't think of a name bad enough for these two.   Even filthy dirty paedo monster cunt, won't do.

 

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Look at his dear little face.   I'm speechless.   Oh, that monster is going to die in prison, I'm sure of it.   Dead before the year is out.


 Sweet, sweet baby RIP xxx


The usual bullshit ”lessons will be learned” no doubt. That infant was seen by the hospital more than once but the two bastards talked their way out of it each time.  May they both suffer the absolute worse in prison and hopefully it’ll be more than wretching and spewing, I want them to be physically harmed and bad.


Bastards.



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That beautiful little boy, God knows how he suffered. It's unbearable to think about.
How can anyone be against capital punishment for crimes like this?

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That beautiful little boy, God knows how he suffered. It's unbearable to think about.
How can anyone be against capital punishment for crimes like this?


 I have always been against capital punishment as you know Syl, but no more. 

Those bastards should die screaming for what they did to that beautiful baby. 😠



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That beautiful little boy, God knows how he suffered. It's unbearable to think about.
How can anyone be against capital punishment for crimes like this?


 I have always been against capital punishment as you know Syl, but no more. 

Those bastards should die screaming for what they did to that beautiful baby. 😠


 Some people don't deserve to live. When they carry out such horrific acts, especially against innocent beautiful babies, they lose the right to breathe imo.



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Magica wrote:
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That beautiful little boy, God knows how he suffered. It's unbearable to think about.
How can anyone be against capital punishment for crimes like this?


 I have always been against capital punishment as you know Syl, but no more. 

Those bastards should die screaming for what they did to that beautiful baby. 😠


 My feelings exactly. Let them slowly die in the same manner that little one did. Sod being humane with these two, they deserve a painful, lingering and horrible demise.



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  1. John McGowan-Fazakerley has been sentenced to 25 years. 

    He was was found guilty of allowing the death of a child, two counts of child cruelty and one count of the sexual assault of a child.

  2. Varley given whole life order

    Teacher Jamie Varley, 37, has been sentenced at Preston Crown Court to a whole life order for the murder and sexual abuse of his adopted baby Preston Davey.

     

    May they suffer each and every day.



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Varley’s KC arguing that these sentences [ whole life tariff ] should only be for “exceptionally serious cases” and suggesting that factors in this case should instead mean a sentence short of that. He went on to clarify that the ‘factors’ he was referring to, was that Varley did not have an "outright intent to kill" but instead a sexual motive….”

 

I know he’s just doing his job but if this is not an “exceptionally serious cases” then what is. Both of them should have been sentenced to whole life tariff… Fazakerley is just as much a murderer as Varley imo.

 

if you can bear it here’s a short video of Preston taken by his foster parents just before his adoption. Heartbreaking. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4gyrewq8xkt  

The usual blah blah blah review(s) is being done. Too little too late, yet again.



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I saw that video, it was heartbreaking. That tiny child was so trusting and happy before the adoption.
Reading (not in detail, I couldn't stand that) what those monsters did to him in his short life, it's almost unbearable.

God knows how his biological and previous foster parents are feeling....I can't imagine.

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  1. John McGowan-Fazakerley has been sentenced to 25 years. 

    He was was found guilty of allowing the death of a child, two counts of child cruelty and one count of the sexual assault of a child.

  2. Varley given whole life order

    Teacher Jamie Varley, 37, has been sentenced at Preston Crown Court to a whole life order for the murder and sexual abuse of his adopted baby Preston Davey.

     

    May they suffer each and every day.


 Why was the other one given 25 yrs, out in 12! He raped that baby too!

I hope the prisoners have their kettles boiling and lots of sugar to greet these despicable monsters!



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  1. John McGowan-Fazakerley has been sentenced to 25 years. 

    He was was found guilty of allowing the death of a child, two counts of child cruelty and one count of the sexual assault of a child.

  2. Varley given whole life order

    Teacher Jamie Varley, 37, has been sentenced at Preston Crown Court to a whole life order for the murder and sexual abuse of his adopted baby Preston Davey.

     

    May they suffer each and every day.


 Why was the other one given 25 yrs, out in 12! He raped that baby too!

I hope the prisoners have their kettles boiling and lots of sugar to greet these despicable monsters!


 Both guilty of murder imo, both should have received a whole life tariff - he knew the abuse was going on and even joined in on it. Why he didn’t get the same sentence is baffling to me, being as he is a paedophile himself..

Aiding and abetting…(source Google AI) - “ In the UK, aiding and abetting a paedophile is typically prosecuted under the Serious Crime Act 2007 (encouraging or assisting crime) or as "assisting an offender". Sentences are severe: accomplices face the same maximum penalties as the principal offender—meaning sentences can reach up to life imprisonment for the most serious charges. “ 

I’m hanging on in the hope that prison proves terrifying for them both.



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Magica wrote:
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  1. John McGowan-Fazakerley has been sentenced to 25 years. 

    He was was found guilty of allowing the death of a child, two counts of child cruelty and one count of the sexual assault of a child.

  2. Varley given whole life order

    Teacher Jamie Varley, 37, has been sentenced at Preston Crown Court to a whole life order for the murder and sexual abuse of his adopted baby Preston Davey.

     

    May they suffer each and every day.


 Why was the other one given 25 yrs, out in 12! He raped that baby too!

I hope the prisoners have their kettles boiling and lots of sugar to greet these despicable monsters!


 If either have been sent to HMP Wakefield then it’s just a matter of time. 3 Wakefield inmates sentenced earlier for stabbing a child killer inmate to death. The prison houses some of the most high profile killers (and sex offenders) in there.

We can but hope, eh.



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