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Magica wrote:

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In answer to this thread, no Reform is not racist.  I'm sick of that word banded about by people who don't really know what racist means.

 

What that MP said I agreed.  I too have notice all black, asian,.mixed race etc families in ads, where's the white faces.

 

This country in the 60s, 70s even 80s was predominantly white. This country for centuries was predominantly white, that's how.it was.in England, and UK.  Same as Africa is predominantly black, India is predominantly asian, and so on.  Are they all.racist too?

  Until Blair got in and decided to introduce multiculturalism here, which never worked, Muslims, don't mix with whites or blacks.

 Blacks came they integrated I had black friends growing up, still do. Indians came they integrated, muslims dont.  They want to take over.

People have had enough of the invaders, bloody lefties, and Starmer.  I can see a riot or civil war coming if the illegals are not controlled or deported!

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by Magica on Wednesday 29th of October 2025 10:43:10 PM

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 Hello Mags. I agree that POC have integrated since the windrush  generation who fought by our side  with such loyalty so long ago.

Which is why I'm a little surprised that posters here don't agree that the .MP's statements were clearly racist. Reform are the party most vocally opposed to illegal immigration which is a totally legitimate stance. But why now are they complaining about seeing British people on the television??

British people are both white and black, born and raised here. Why are Reform suddenly changing tack and complaining about the colour of people's skin? That's a world away from wanting to tackle the small boats.

Why is this MP angered by seeing "too many" black people" on tele? Do you care if adverts feature poc or white people,? I doubt you even notice.

That's why so many right wing people complained about her bigoted comments because stating that it drives you mad seeing 'too many":people of colour is evidently racist. And a healthy amount of Reform voters are NOT racist  I realise that now. They opted for Reform because Reform said they would tackle the illegal immigration crisis, but they don't care about the colour of people in advertising!! 

This MP had alienated many potential voters by objecting to the colour of people's skin and people don't care for that. It's the very definition of racism. I'm glad right wing voters aswell as those who vote for left parties could see that. It gives me hope.

If posters here don't think it's racist to be angry at seeing"too many" dark skinned people in adverts  I respectfully disagree as that is the essence of what racism is! It also shows this lady sees colour when she looks at people, not people themselves . If you were a person of co!our would you want her to be in the governing party?

It just seems so obvious to me and thankfully it's  evident to the  majority aswell.. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions however so  of course I respect that.

 

 

-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 30th of October 2025 10:41:57 AM

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 I don't agree.  It's not racist to want to see more white faces, we are still predominantly white here.

The word racist has been abused over the years, and anyone speaking of anyone none white is racist, no.  

When I was young racist meant not calling a black person a derogatory name, bullying them because of their colour.

Now racist is banded about to shut people up.  It doesn't work anymore.

How comes they ignored.our history and had a black Anne Boleyn,  disgusting.  Can you imagine the outcry if they had a white Mandella, or Zulu King Cetawayo.  Racism works both ways.

Now recently, a white rapist raped an Indian women, it  called a racist attack, while he should get years in prison, why call it that.  They don't call it that when these illegals rape white girls, or.murder white people.

It's all one way.  If you are going to scream racist at everything a white person says or does, then it must work both ways!

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Magica wrote:

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In answer to this thread, no Reform is not racist.  I'm sick of that word banded about by people who don't really know what racist means.

 

What that MP said I agreed.  I too have notice all black, asian,.mixed race etc families in ads, where's the white faces.

 

This country in the 60s, 70s even 80s was predominantly white. This country for centuries was predominantly white, that's how.it was.in England, and UK.  Same as Africa is predominantly black, India is predominantly asian, and so on.  Are they all.racist too?

  Until Blair got in and decided to introduce multiculturalism here, which never worked, Muslims, don't mix with whites or blacks.

 Blacks came they integrated I had black friends growing up, still do. Indians came they integrated, muslims dont.  They want to take over.

People have had enough of the invaders, bloody lefties, and Starmer.  I can see a riot or civil war coming if the illegals are not controlled or deported!

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by Magica on Wednesday 29th of October 2025 10:43:10 PM

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 Hello Mags. I agree that POC have integrated since the windrush  generation who fought by our side  with such loyalty so long ago.

Which is why I'm a little surprised that posters here don't agree that the .MP's statements were clearly racist. Reform are the party most vocally opposed to illegal immigration which is a totally legitimate stance. But why now are they complaining about seeing British people on the television??

British people are both white and black, born and raised here. Why are Reform suddenly changing tack and complaining about the colour of people's skin? That's a world away from wanting to tackle the small boats.

Why is this MP angered by seeing "too many" black people" on tele? Do you care if adverts feature poc or white people,? I doubt you even notice.

That's why so many right wing people complained about her bigoted comments because stating that it drives you mad seeing 'too many":people of colour is evidently racist. And a healthy amount of Reform voters are NOT racist  I realise that now. They opted for Reform because Reform said they would tackle the illegal immigration crisis, but they don't care about the colour of people in advertising!! 

This MP had alienated many potential voters by objecting to the colour of people's skin and people don't care for that. It's the very definition of racism. I'm glad right wing voters aswell as those who vote for left parties could see that. It gives me hope.

If posters here don't think it's racist to be angry at seeing"too many" dark skinned people in adverts  I respectfully disagree as that is the essence of what racism is! It also shows this lady sees colour when she looks at people, not people themselves . If you were a person of co!our would you want her to be in the governing party?

It just seems so obvious to me and thankfully it's  evident to the  majority aswell.. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions however so  of course I respect that.

 

 

-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 30th of October 2025 10:41:57 AM

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 I don't agree with her sentiments because I'm not that bothered about what colour folks are on adverts.   Sure, it gets a bit tedious when it's obvious the old virtual signalling is going down, but at th end of the day, who really cares?  I don't see her comment as racist because it's trivial and putting this amount of import on it undermines the real racism in the world.

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Fluffy, you may want to rethink the first line of your first post.

And I don't think the replies are either negative or particularly right wing either.

I did watch the MP answering the question, whether she is racist or simply speaking as she finds, I don't know.

But she did remind me a bit of the horrendous Katie Hopkins, which isn't a good thing. 

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 She really is ghastly isn't she.  I can't stand her.

I have to  sadly disagree with your second statement Syl which I shall explain. As I said to Digs if she had said she was angry at seeing too many disabled people on television she would likely have had to resign..saying you are angered or maddened  by seeing "too many black people'"  on.any context is to my mind, an obvious racist statement.  Why does the sight of black people make her angry?? The thing about how it doesn't represent society doesn't work either as there is still an awful lot of white people in advertising . She would never have been permitted to say such a thing a decade ago.  But the immigration crisis  has allowed xenophobic rhetoric in the media to become commonplace so people are used to hearing casual racism most days of the week.It has been normalised.

She made potential and actual Reform voters who only have legitimate concerns about immigration angry hence why she had to apologise. Those voters don't have any issue with seeing black people on television!  Reform have exposed they are a racist party as they have made the transition of wanting to stop illegal immigrants entering the country which is a legitimate concern to bizarrely..being  maddened at the sight of people of colour . It's not that the accusation of people being racist is overused, quite the opposite. People used to fear being called a racist.Now people fear calling out racists..Casual bigotry has  been accepted in the media  for a good few years hence why many are desensitized to it and don't recognise a basic racist statement when they hear it. Objecting to seeing "too many 'people of colour" an.obvious  racist sentiment to my mind.

I am so relieved enough people saw that and complained about her comments. And it gives me hope that some were potential and actual Reform voters , which also proved my prior theory wrong that most Reform voters are likely to be prejudiced . They are not,  they have no problem with seeing black people on television hence why they objected to her prejudice. But people here don't see the problem with what she said so that makes them more right wing than most of society.

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 Fluffy, I was meaning the posters replies on this thread are not particularly negative or right wing. I think the consensus on this thread is that the MP was talking factually.

She could have phrased it better, she has since backtracked, she responded to the question asked, in the same way it was delivered...quite aggressively, but that doesn't necessarily make her a racist...imo.

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” No, it's not racist to notice or resent media portrayals that distort demographic realities. White people, as the UK's majority (around 82% per census), have valid grounds to critique over-representation of minorities in ads, which prioritizes ideology over reflection of society. Calling out imbalance isn't prejudice—it's pushing for authenticity, much like any group advocating fair depiction. “

and https://x.com/FirstNationBrit/status/1982538049079947311/photo/1  

 

No, I don’t see her as being racist.

 

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 🙋🏻‍♀️ Ditto, me.

I think the saying in England that always makes me laugh is: @ Fluff….on this particular issue, “wind your neck in!” 😛😂

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Fluffy wrote:

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Magica wrote:

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In answer to this thread, no Reform is not racist.  I'm sick of that word banded about by people who don't really know what racist means.

 

What that MP said I agreed.  I too have notice all black, asian,.mixed race etc families in ads, where's the white faces.

 

This country in the 60s, 70s even 80s was predominantly white. This country for centuries was predominantly white, that's how.it was.in England, and UK.  Same as Africa is predominantly black, India is predominantly asian, and so on.  Are they all.racist too?

  Until Blair got in and decided to introduce multiculturalism here, which never worked, Muslims, don't mix with whites or blacks.

 Blacks came they integrated I had black friends growing up, still do. Indians came they integrated, muslims dont.  They want to take over.

People have had enough of the invaders, bloody lefties, and Starmer.  I can see a riot or civil war coming if the illegals are not controlled or deported!

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by Magica on Wednesday 29th of October 2025 10:43:10 PM

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 Hello Mags. I agree that POC have integrated since the windrush  generation who fought by our side  with such loyalty so long ago.

Which is why I'm a little surprised that posters here don't agree that the .MP's statements were clearly racist. Reform are the party most vocally opposed to illegal immigration which is a totally legitimate stance. But why now are they complaining about seeing British people on the television??

British people are both white and black, born and raised here. Why are Reform suddenly changing tack and complaining about the colour of people's skin? That's a world away from wanting to tackle the small boats.

Why is this MP angered by seeing "too many" black people" on tele? Do you care if adverts feature poc or white people,? I doubt you even notice.

That's why so many right wing people complained about her bigoted comments because stating that it drives you mad seeing 'too many":people of colour is evidently racist. And a healthy amount of Reform voters are NOT racist  I realise that now. They opted for Reform because Reform said they would tackle the illegal immigration crisis, but they don't care about the colour of people in advertising!! 

This MP had alienated many potential voters by objecting to the colour of people's skin and people don't care for that. It's the very definition of racism. I'm glad right wing voters aswell as those who vote for left parties could see that. It gives me hope.

If posters here don't think it's racist to be angry at seeing"too many" dark skinned people in adverts  I respectfully disagree as that is the essence of what racism is! It also shows this lady sees colour when she looks at people, not people themselves . If you were a person of co!our would you want her to be in the governing party?

It just seems so obvious to me and thankfully it's  evident to the  majority aswell.. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions however so  of course I respect that.

 

 

-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 30th of October 2025 10:41:57 AM

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 I don't agree with her sentiments because I'm not that bothered about what colour folks are on adverts.   Sure, it gets a bit tedious when it's obvious the old virtual signalling is going down, but at th end of the day, who really cares?  I don't see her comment as racist because it's trivial and putting this amount of import on it undermines the real racism in the world.

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 I think what is being missed here is the shift in Reform 's narrative.

I agree on the surface it's a trivial thing to. "get mad about", the amount of black people on television. (but being angered about seeing people of colour just sounds like blatant casual racism  but never mind ) 

It's the road Reform are heading down I'm concerned about and what it says about their MP's mentality. I thought their policy concerned illegal immigration. Now a Reform MP wants to see less black people represented on television. Why would someone be actually angered as this lady admitted she was by the sight of people of colour?

It's not as if there is a drought of white people in adverts. They are everywhere. She may have a point if one ethnicity was dominating advertising but people of colour make up 51%.,  The rest are white people.So it's equally distributed.. Why would anyone  have a problem with something so trivial unless ,like her, they   get angered by seeing black people and are actively campaigning to see less black people.?

How much more racist does this lady 's mentality need to be?  Does she have to wear a t shirt saying "I don't like seeing too many black people"?? 

I think it's evident that her mentality is racist  because even if what she is discussing is considered trivial, her annoyance and anger to seeing an equal amount of people of colour on television is not normal. Unless she held views that would be defined as racist.

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Magica wrote:

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In answer to this thread, no Reform is not racist.  I'm sick of that word banded about by people who don't really know what racist means.

 

What that MP said I agreed.  I too have notice all black, asian,.mixed race etc families in ads, where's the white faces.

 

This country in the 60s, 70s even 80s was predominantly white. This country for centuries was predominantly white, that's how.it was.in England, and UK.  Same as Africa is predominantly black, India is predominantly asian, and so on.  Are they all.racist too?

  Until Blair got in and decided to introduce multiculturalism here, which never worked, Muslims, don't mix with whites or blacks.

 Blacks came they integrated I had black friends growing up, still do. Indians came they integrated, muslims dont.  They want to take over.

People have had enough of the invaders, bloody lefties, and Starmer.  I can see a riot or civil war coming if the illegals are not controlled or deported!

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by Magica on Wednesday 29th of October 2025 10:43:10 PM

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 Hello Mags. I agree that POC have integrated since the windrush  generation who fought by our side  with such loyalty so long ago.

Which is why I'm a little surprised that posters here don't agree that the .MP's statements were clearly racist. Reform are the party most vocally opposed to illegal immigration which is a totally legitimate stance. But why now are they complaining about seeing British people on the television??

British people are both white and black, born and raised here. Why are Reform suddenly changing tack and complaining about the colour of people's skin? That's a world away from wanting to tackle the small boats.

Why is this MP angered by seeing "too many" black people" on tele? Do you care if adverts feature poc or white people,? I doubt you even notice.

That's why so many right wing people complained about her bigoted comments because stating that it drives you mad seeing 'too many":people of colour is evidently racist. And a healthy amount of Reform voters are NOT racist  I realise that now. They opted for Reform because Reform said they would tackle the illegal immigration crisis, but they don't care about the colour of people in advertising!! 

This MP had alienated many potential voters by objecting to the colour of people's skin and people don't care for that. It's the very definition of racism. I'm glad right wing voters aswell as those who vote for left parties could see that. It gives me hope.

If posters here don't think it's racist to be angry at seeing"too many" dark skinned people in adverts  I respectfully disagree as that is the essence of what racism is! It also shows this lady sees colour when she looks at people, not people themselves . If you were a person of co!our would you want her to be in the governing party?

It just seems so obvious to me and thankfully it's  evident to the  majority aswell.. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions however so  of course I respect that.

 

 

-- Edited by Fluffy on Thursday 30th of October 2025 10:41:57 AM

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 I don't agree with her sentiments because I'm not that bothered about what colour folks are on adverts.   Sure, it gets a bit tedious when it's obvious the old virtual signalling is going down, but at th end of the day, who really cares?  I don't see her comment as racist because it's trivial and putting this amount of import on it undermines the real racism in the world.

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 I think what is being missed here is the shift in Reform 's narrative.

I agree on the surface it's a trivial thing to. "get mad about", the amount of black people on television. (but being angered about seeing people of colour just sounds like blatant casual racism  but never mind ) 

It's the road Reform are heading down I'm concerned about and what it says about their MP's mentality. I thought their policy concerned illegal immigration. Now a Reform MP wants to see less black people represented on television. Why would someone be actually angered as this lady admitted she was by the sight of people of colour?

It's not as if there is a drought of white people in adverts. They are everywhere. She may have a point if one ethnicity was dominating advertising but people of colour make up 51%.,  The rest are white people.So it's equally distributed.. Why would anyone  have a problem with something so trivial unless ,like her, they   get angered by seeing black people and are actively campaigning to see less black people.?

How much more racist does this lady 's mentality need to be?  Does she have to wear a t shirt saying "I don't like seeing too many black people"?? 

I think it's evident that her mentality is racist  because even if what she is discussing is considered trivial, her annoyance and anger to seeing an equal amount of people of colour on television is not normal. Unless she held views that would be defined as racist.

 

 

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 It's not Reform changing tack, it's one person fgs!

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 I don't expect many replies to this as negative right wing feedback isn't generally posted but I will give it a go.

 British MP Sarah Pochin has declared she is driven mad by seeing people of colour in adverts .She later apologised for her comments  but I doubt she was sincere,merely  concerned about losing her job. 51% of people in adverts are POC and the rest are white. Why is she even concerned??

I think it is of course racist to declare she doesn't want to see black people on television. But what bothers me more is how she wouldn't have been permitted to say this a decade ago and how much the media have allowed such abhorrent views to become normal  discourse. Imagine how her comments make POC feel. The narrative is that Reform and their  voters are not racist ,they are just concerned about  immigrants. So why is Pochin talking about being drove mad about  Black British people??

Do you think her views are racist or realism? Is it all a fuss about nothing? Or do you feel her comments prove Reform MP's are racist as this rhetoric has nothing  to do with immigration?

Speaking to TalkTV on Saturday, Pochin stated that it “drove her mad” seeing a high proportion of minorities featured in television adverts, instead of “white families”. 

The representative for Runcorn went on to state that the average white person ‘does not feature’ in TV ads, before going on to blame the ‘wokerati’ for the perceived shift in demographics. However, the ramblings have left her in hot water. 

Her apology was -

"My comments on a Talk TV phone-in earlier today were phrased poorly and I unreservedly apologise for any offence caused, which was not my intention. Representation in advertising should reflect the diversity of modern Britain.“

 

Source with video-

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/who-is-sarah-pochin-what-said-tv-adverts-reform-399579/

 

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 Let's start this over. She never said she didn't want to see black people on TV. You made that part up as you are prone to do.

She did apologize for the the way she said they were over represented and clarified her comment to state they should be represented (which is different than over represented).

None of these actions make her racist. 

Your comments do make you less than honest..

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Magica wrote:

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In answer to this thread, no Reform is not racist.  I'm sick of that word banded about by people who don't really know what racist means.

 

What that MP said I agreed.  I too have notice all black, asian,.mixed race etc families in ads, where's the white faces.

 

This country in the 60s, 70s even 80s was predominantly white. This country for centuries was predominantly white, that's how.it was.in England, and UK.  Same as Africa is predominantly black, India is predominantly asian, and so on.  Are they all.racist too?

  Until Blair got in and decided to introduce multiculturalism here, which never worked, Muslims, don't mix with whites or blacks.

 Blacks came they integrated I had black friends growing up, still do. Indians came they integrated, muslims dont.  They want to take over.

People have had enough of the invaders, bloody lefties, and Starmer.  I can see a riot or civil war coming if the illegals are not controlled or deported!

 

 

 

 

-- Edited by Magica on Wednesday 29th of October 2025 10:43:10 PM

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 Hello Mags. I agree that POC have integrated since the windrush  generation who fought by our side  with such loyalty so long ago.

Which is why I'm a little surprised that posters here don't agree that the .MP's statements were clearly racist. Reform are the party most vocally opposed to illegal immigration which is a totally legitimate stance. But why now are they complaining about seeing British people on the television??

British people are both white and black, born and raised here. Why are Reform suddenly changing tack and complaining about the colour of people's skin? That's a world away from wanting to tackle the small boats.

Why is this MP angered by seeing "too many" black people" on tele? Do you care if adverts feature poc or white people,? I doubt you even notice.

That's why so many right wing people complained about her bigoted comments because stating that it drives you mad seeing 'too many":people of colour is evidently racist. And a healthy amount of Reform voters are NOT racist  I realise that now. They opted for Reform because Reform said they would tackle the illegal immigration crisis, but they don't care about the colour of people in advertising!! 

This MP had alienated many potential voters by objecting to the colour of people's skin and people don't care for that. It's the very definition of racism. I'm glad right wing voters aswell as those who vote for left parties could see that. It gives me hope.

If posters here don't think it's racist to be angry at seeing"too many" dark skinned people in adverts  I respectfully disagree as that is the essence of what racism is! It also shows this lady sees colour when she looks at people, not people themselves . If you were a person of co!our would you want her to be in the governing party?

It just seems so obvious to me and thankfully it's  evident to the  majority aswell.. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions however so  of course I respect that.

 

 

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Now recently, a white rapist raped an Indian women, it  called a racist attack, while he should get years in prison, why call it that.  They don't call it that when these illegals rape white girls, or.murder white people.

It's all one way.  If you are going to scream racist at everything a white person says or does, then it must work both ways!

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 Two men raped the Hindu woman, and it sounds like it was a definate racist attack Mags.

"The Sikh Federation (UK) said the perpetrators reportedly told the woman during the attack: "You don't belong in this country, get out."

Dabinderjit Singh, the lead executive for political engagement at the Sikh Federation (UK), said the attack took place in "broad daylight on a busy road", adding that Sikh Youth UK was supporting the victim and her family.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced5ly7zv2po

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I think it's silly to consider different views on race as racism.

Wondering why some races are over represented in adverts isn't racism, it's asking why does race seem to be so important in adverts.

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 Why are you looking at  people and seeing the colour of their skin instead of just people would be the.more pertinent question imo.

Maybe if it was totally out of hand and in most adverts POC were featured say 75% you would have a point. But that's not the case so you don't.

If you look at dramas and films on television the majority of the cast are white with a few token people of colour. And it has improved, it used to be much worse only about 15 years ago .

Have we had a black James Bond yet? Think of all the movie icons Sean Connery,Harrison Ford, Johnny Depp, Clint Eastwood, Brad Pitt even.The younger generation it's Zac Efron, Henry Cavill, ..there are NO people of colour  as leading men except Morgan Freeman

What's wrong with evening up the score up a little?

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 Why did you start this thread?

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 Are you in the habit of asking people why they make threads.? You're an eccentric old timer for sure  but at least you don't take things too seriously. I guess I could learn from that.

It's pretty simple Maddets. I know some  here support Reform and  a lot of potential Reform voters felt this MP went too far and complained about what they deemed to be racist rhetoric. I wanted to see if posters here agreed.

 

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 She was asked to clarify, and she did. 

 

Millions of people in the UK will loathe her no matter what she says and will label her a racist for her party affiliation..

 

Don't be like those people..

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 There is a huge economic crisis in this country and this MP feels she is serving her constituents by spending her time counting the people of colour in adverts and then expressing that it 'makes her mad to see too many black people on television"  She was also very ..passionate for want of a better word when exposing her outrage.

It was the opinion of many people across the political spectrum that these comments were racist. On social media some Tory and Reform voters even labelled her comments racist.  I happen to agree with them and it has made me realise I was formerly stereotyping Reform voters. They are certainly not all racist as people did inform  me here.The majority of Reform voters just want the immigration crisis finally sorted.

Everyone in the Whine is entitled to their own opinion on the matter.Yet you seem to be implying  I'm isolated in my thinking that her comments were racist when it was the general consensus nationally that they were. 

What does she want to achieve by complaining about seeing too many black people, is the question I ask myself..So she wants people of colour to be less visible in advertising..why?? I would understand her point of view more if white people were under represented but they are everywhere in UK advertising. No body could claim otherwise. Nigel Farage said her comments were "ugly ' but not racist.  Posters in the Whine apparently don't think there was anything wrong with her comments at all.

That's fine as we are all entitled to our views. But I am not going to accept that my perception is incorrect and  opinion is automatically wrong when a significant amount of people outside the Whine share it.

As for the BIB , what makes you think that?? The opposite is true. Reform are most likely to be next party in Government, this is borne out by statistics. The majority of people agree with what Reform MP's say, it's the Government they don't agree with! (neither do I at this point, it's just scandal after scandal. Labour really  are woefully inept.)

Her comments were attempting to cause division, there were no possible honourable motives behind them. Apparently less than 10% of people in the UK are POC. This surprised me. If she wants advertising to represent people accurately  people of colour would be rendered invisible..surely she doesn't want that.  Her claim that white families are no longer seen in advertising is patently false. White families appear in adverts literally all the time. We are not under represented. 

Yes, there are far more explicit examples of racism than hers but her views are not trivial because she holds a great deal of influence. She  stated  it "made her mad"  to see "too many black people " and  in the opinion of voters across the political spectrum, that was a racist statement.

It does not need to be explored any deeply (although you can if you wish) as I agree with Digs it really is rather trivial when compared with the atrocities going on in the world.