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Magica · Still Here!

RE: Iran Revolution

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Magica wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
So why doesn't France rescue them.
They do send them here, they used to bring them by boat. They do nothing to stop them even though we have paid millions.

If a French Navy or Police boat rescues them they do take them back to France, that's the law.

Smugglers arrange the illegal boat crossings, the authorities don't.

Digger · Admin

Magica wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Magica wrote:
Maddog wrote:
The Shah's kid made a video for Al Jazeera in which he states that he would recognize Israel as a country and immediately stop funding terrorists.

Almost every rocket fired by Hamas and Hezbolla comes from Iran. Not only would this new government help Iranians, but it would help the region..
It would be great for Iran. Peace in the middle east. Also the people will be free. Girls and women can dress how they want, have more.opportunities for work.
Can only be good news for Iranians.
Its good news for everyone.

Without Iran's help, there is no October 7th attack.

Think how many Palestinians would still be alive..
True, but at least if the Ayatollah goes, there will never be another Oct 7th or any attack, hopefully.

I wouldn't count on that.

Digger · Admin

Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.

Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.

Magica · Still Here!

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.

Exactly, Australia did the same.

We are so weak here, and Starmer wants them!

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.

Maritime law can be challenged and change, some recently have been.

After Brexit, the laws on how we dealt with boat crossings should have been carefully looked at...they were not, and we are where we are now. We continue to be the underdog when it comes to having rights.

This is one of the reasons people voted for Brexit, to have more control over our own country...what a mistake that was.

Maddog · Go Outside

Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.

You definitely can "repatriate" people that land on your shores.

Put them on a plane and ask the French if they want to choose an airport, or you.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.
You definitely can "repatriate" people that land on your shores.

Put them on a plane and ask the French if they want to choose an airport, or you.

We actually can't do that....but the one in one out agreement worked in someones favour, we sent back 281 people using this scheme.

Unfortunately last year 41.000 more arrived.

But wait, we have a new plan....

"Families of failed asylum seekers have been offered up to £40,000 to leave Britain voluntarily in a new pilot scheme.

The Home Office today informed 150 families they are eligible for lump sums of £10,000 a head for up to four people if they agree to go.

The programme could be expanded to thousands more families if it proves successful. "

Magica · Still Here!

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.
You definitely can "repatriate" people that land on your shores.

Put them on a plane and ask the French if they want to choose an airport, or you.
We actually can't do that....but the one in one out agreement worked in someones favour, we sent back 281 people using this scheme.
Unfortunately last year 41.000 more arrived.

But wait, we have a new plan....

"Families of failed asylum seekers have been offered up to £40,000 to leave Britain voluntarily in a new pilot scheme.
The Home Office today informed 150 families they are eligible for lump sums of £10,000 a head for up to four people if they agree to go.
The programme could be expanded to thousands more families if it proves successful. "

What a joke eh. Take the money then back on a dinghy! Bloody ridiculous!

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.
You definitely can "repatriate" people that land on your shores.

Put them on a plane and ask the French if they want to choose an airport, or you.
We actually can't do that....but the one in one out agreement worked in someones favour, we sent back 281 people using this scheme.
Unfortunately last year 41.000 more arrived.

But wait, we have a new plan....

"Families of failed asylum seekers have been offered up to £40,000 to leave Britain voluntarily in a new pilot scheme.
The Home Office today informed 150 families they are eligible for lump sums of £10,000 a head for up to four people if they agree to go.
The programme could be expanded to thousands more families if it proves successful. "

You can do that with a leader that says to hell with international law..My obligation is to my people.

Do you think the French would shoot down planes attempting to repatriate people.?

And your new plan is idiotic..I think we give them 2 grand if they self deport..

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Of course the French would not shoot down the planes, not everyone uses guns against other countries as a deterrent.
They could, however, refuse permission to land.

Maddog · Go Outside

Syl wrote:
Of course the French would not shoot down the planes, not everyone uses guns against other countries as a deterrent.
They could, however, refuse permission to land.

Maybe. I'd a load a few cargo planes with folks and find out.

I guess plan b would involve parachutes..😎

If Joe Biden figured out how to remove 4.4 million people from the US in 4 years, surely there is someone in the UK that can do something similar. It's a low bar..

Date: Mar 6 10:19 PM, 2026

Syl wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:
France don't send them here, albeit they dont do much to stop them leaving.
Maritime law dictates that we can't just turn them back once they land, and if they get in difficulty, the boat that rescues them, has to take them.
Funny how maritime law only seems to affect us and no other country. Greece. Italy. Malta. All do pushbacks.
You definitely can "repatriate" people that land on your shores.

Put them on a plane and ask the French if they want to choose an airport, or you.
We actually can't do that....but the one in one out agreement worked in someones favour, we sent back 281 people using this scheme.
Unfortunately last year 41.000 more arrived.

But wait, we have a new plan....

"Families of failed asylum seekers have been offered up to £40,000 to leave Britain voluntarily in a new pilot scheme.
The Home Office today informed 150 families they are eligible for lump sums of £10,000 a head for up to four people if they agree to go.
The programme could be expanded to thousands more families if it proves successful. "

" 2. If someone refuses an incentive, we will move to a forced removal. If you have no right to be in this country you should not be allowed to stay. " Shabana Mahmood MP 6 March 2026

Huh? If they have no right to be here then they should be removed, no financial incentives, no benefits, no housing etc etc, They should be removed...no ifs, buts or £10,000 per head.

If the Govt are saying they are capable of forcibly removing them then why are they still here, why haven't they already been forcibly removed before now?

It's like offering £40,000 to a bank robber not to rob a bank.

(my bolding)