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This happened here last week. When did we become such an uncaring society?

Five homeless people have died in the freezing temperatures on the streets in Manchester over the last couple of weeks.

It was minus 6, yet these two homeless men were refused accommodation even though a charity had prepaid for their room for the night.

 

Homeless men turned away from hotel in freezing temperatures - despite paying for booking | ITV News Granada



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At the end of the day, hotels are businesses and not charities. It might not be a popular view, but if I ran a hotel, I also wouldn't allow the homeless to stay there, even if the room had been paid for. Same if I ran a bar/pub/restaurant etc

Without knowing the individuals involved, I would think homeless = dirty, smelly, fleas, alcoholic, loud, troublesome etc, and say no. I wouldn't want to impose that on the other guests.

The woman who booked the rooms should have checked first if it was ok for them to stay there. Also, just for one night? They would have been back on the streets the next day in similar temperatures. I blame her for the situation and not the hotel receptionist, who was open about the situation, and wasn't in the slightest bit rude or patronising.

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Red Okktober wrote:

At the end of the day, hotels are businesses and not charities. It might not be a popular view, but if I ran a hotel, I also wouldn't allow the homeless to stay there, even if the room had been paid for. Same if I ran a bar/pub/restaurant etc

Without knowing the individuals involved, I would think homeless = dirty, smelly, fleas, alcoholic, loud, troublesome etc, and say no. I wouldn't want to impose that on the other guests.

The woman who booked the rooms should have checked first if it was ok for them to stay there. Also, just for one night? They would have been back on the streets the next day in similar temperatures. I blame her for the situation and not the hotel receptionist, who was open about the situation, and wasn't in the slightest bit rude or patronising.


 The hotel tariff was being paid for,   The hotel still turned them away.  Holiday Inn are fine taking migrants.   We fill our hotels with men who we don't know what diseases they've got when they come off those boats...who they are, what they've done.  And a good few of them are rapists and murderers and paedophiles.   They smoke.  Take drugs.   And some of them look none too clean to me.   If I ran that hotel I'd be more than happy to give a couple of homeless  a room with hot shower and warm safe bed for the night.   I've been homeless.  When I was 17.   I know what it feels like and it's fucking devastating.   And nobody should be dehumanized because of it.






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 The hotel tariff was being paid for,   The hotel still turned them away.  Holiday Inn are fine taking migrants.   We fill our hotels with men who we don't know what diseases they've got when they come off those boats...who they are, what they've done.  And a good few of them are rapists and murderers and paedophiles.   They smoke.  Take drugs.   And some of them look none too clean to me.   If I ran that hotel I'd be more than happy to give a couple of homeless  a room with hot shower and warm safe bed for the night.   I've been homeless.  When I was 17.   I know what it feels like and it's fucking devastating.   And nobody should be dehumanized because of it.





 The woman should have checked before she paid for it. 

I think the story said she found an alternative hotel that took in several homeless and some dogs as well, which is fine, if that hotel doesn't mind who stays there, but I don't think it should be expected that a hotel will automatically take in homeless people if they have other guests staying there. I know the hotel chain have said turning them away goes against their policy and will look into staff training etc, but that just seems damage limitation as the story is in the news

I wouldn't take migrants in either. 

If I booked a holiday abroad and turned up and the hotel was full of homeless and asylum seekers, I wouldn't be too happy, I don't think many people would tbh.



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Red Okktober wrote:
Digger wrote:


 The hotel tariff was being paid for,   The hotel still turned them away.  Holiday Inn are fine taking migrants.   We fill our hotels with men who we don't know what diseases they've got when they come off those boats...who they are, what they've done.  And a good few of them are rapists and murderers and paedophiles.   They smoke.  Take drugs.   And some of them look none too clean to me.   If I ran that hotel I'd be more than happy to give a couple of homeless  a room with hot shower and warm safe bed for the night.   I've been homeless.  When I was 17.   I know what it feels like and it's fucking devastating.   And nobody should be dehumanized because of it.





 The woman should have checked before she paid for it. 

I think the story said she found an alternative hotel that took in several homeless and some dogs as well, which is fine, if that hotel doesn't mind who stays there, but I don't think it should be expected that a hotel will automatically take in homeless people if they have other guests staying there. I know the hotel chain have said turning them away goes against their policy and will look into staff training etc, but that just seems damage limitation as the story is in the news

I wouldn't take migrants in either. 

If I booked a holiday abroad and turned up and the hotel was full of homeless and asylum seekers, I wouldn't be too happy, I don't think many people would tbh.


 Can you imagine the furore if they turned away a person because they were black?  Or gay?  Or trans?  It's the hypocrisy that gets me.



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Turning anyone away when it's - 6 degrees outside is horrible and heartless.

I remember watching a series on TV about one of the big posher hotels in Manchester. A chambermaid was talking about the state of some of the beds after some of the paying guests had left.

I doubt a couple of homeless men could have been worse than some of the so called respectable customers.

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Digger wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:

At the end of the day, hotels are businesses and not charities. It might not be a popular view, but if I ran a hotel, I also wouldn't allow the homeless to stay there, even if the room had been paid for. Same if I ran a bar/pub/restaurant etc

Without knowing the individuals involved, I would think homeless = dirty, smelly, fleas, alcoholic, loud, troublesome etc, and say no. I wouldn't want to impose that on the other guests.

The woman who booked the rooms should have checked first if it was ok for them to stay there. Also, just for one night? They would have been back on the streets the next day in similar temperatures. I blame her for the situation and not the hotel receptionist, who was open about the situation, and wasn't in the slightest bit rude or patronising.


 The hotel tariff was being paid for,   The hotel still turned them away.  Holiday Inn are fine taking migrants.   We fill our hotels with men who we don't know what diseases they've got when they come off those boats...who they are, what they've done.  And a good few of them are rapists and murderers and paedophiles.   They smoke.  Take drugs.   And some of them look none too clean to me.   If I ran that hotel I'd be more than happy to give a couple of homeless  a room with hot shower and warm safe bed for the night.   I've been homeless.  When I was 17.   I know what it feels like and it's fucking devastating.   And nobody should be dehumanized because of it.





 Yes, I agree.

And these two men  were not asking for charity or freebies, the room had been paid for. 



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Syl wrote:

Turning anyone away when it's - 6 degrees outside is horrible and heartless.

I remember watching a series on TV about one of the big posher hotels in Manchester. A chambermaid was talking about the state of some of the beds after some of the paying guests had left.

I doubt a couple of homeless men could have been worse than some of the so called respectable customers.


 A good friend of mine ran an air B and B at her home.  Some of the guests were disgusting.  One woman had her period and bled all over the sheets and didn't tell her.   She got so fed up she closed it down after about a year.



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Digger wrote:
Syl wrote:

Turning anyone away when it's - 6 degrees outside is horrible and heartless.

I remember watching a series on TV about one of the big posher hotels in Manchester. A chambermaid was talking about the state of some of the beds after some of the paying guests had left.

I doubt a couple of homeless men could have been worse than some of the so called respectable customers.


 A good friend of mine ran an air B and B at her home.  Some of the guests were disgusting.  One woman had her period and bled all over the sheets and didn't tell her.   She got so fed up she closed it down after about a year.


 Not only blood, apparently going to the loo without getting out of bed isn't't that uncommon either.

I don't blame your friend for quitting.

 



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