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Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

RE: World Cup

Vam · Go Outside.

Syl wrote:
Vam wrote:
Very sad for England 🤦🏻‍♀️ I really did dare to hope!

So now, it really does have to be down to Spain to hand those effin cheating thugs their arses on Sunday.
VAMOS!!

I hope so.
I feel this world cup has been rigged from the start. The refs all seem blind to blatant fouling....some of the decisions in the matches I have watched have been farcical.

I think we both posted simultaneously about the fouling. I replied to you - last post on the previous page, in case you missed it

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Vam wrote:
Syl wrote:
Magica wrote:
I'm so gutted we lost. Story of a lifetime!

We defended very well, but really needed to get another goal.to secure the win.

We play France Saturday, come on England.
Argentina fouled their way through the first half, we played brilliantly, but no goals.
We scored in the second half, all was going well, then somehow the game switched, Argentina equaled and it was inevitable they would score again.

It's not coming home.
😔 I’m sorry you guys didn’t get the result you wanted, Syl.
I know England weren’t exactly angels in that first half. But the Argys took fouling to new levels!
I kept remembering what Red said about studs down on an ankle or leg, which could cause serious injury. I was honestly dreading a broken leg/concussion on prime English targets, like Bellingham or Kane.

Ahh, yes I missed this.

I think England had to keep their cool, they were going down like ninepins, so they had to give a bit back or else they would have been completely overpowered by the dirty tactics.

I agree, I think it was a miracle every English player got off the pitch with their legs intact.

Having said all that, the match was anything but boring, even though the result (thanks to the cheating and the biased reffing) was not how it should have been.

Red Okktober · Musing at the Chaos

As with France yesterday, it's the manager's fault and he should fall on his sword.

Too many defensive substitutes, way too early as well. Should have gone for the jugular instead of sitting back and inviting pressure.

2-1 doesn't reflect the Argentine dominance in the last 20 minutes, it played out more like a 4-1 game. No excuses whatsoever

Cracking match up for the final though.

Red Okktober · Musing at the Chaos

Syl wrote:

I hope so.
I feel this world cup has been rigged from the start. The refs all seem blind to blatant fouling....some of the decisions in the matches I have watched have been farcical.

The South Americans always play on the edge of the rules. I wouldn't say it was rigged as such, more like they have become experts at just about getting away with it.

Syl · FIRM BUT FAIR.

Red Okktober wrote:
Syl wrote:

I hope so.
I feel this world cup has been rigged from the start. The refs all seem blind to blatant fouling....some of the decisions in the matches I have watched have been farcical.
The South Americans always play on the edge of the rules. I wouldn't say it was rigged as such, more like they have become experts at just about getting away with it.

I will bow to your superior knowledge of the game, but they really did get away with murder.

I agree about the last 20 minutes. It was inevitable they were going to score and win....we seemed to fall apart and they upped their game.

I did enjoy it though, in spite of the effing and blinding going on around me.

Maddog · Still Here!

That's a wrap from North Texas. I'm glad that everyone had a good time, and I think most folks here are glad they did (there's a few assholes everywhere).

Barksdale · Musing at the Chaos

The better team won last night. I'm not overly disappointed as my expectation before the tournament was reaching the semi-finals.

However, it's frustrating that we reverted to type and attempted to defend a slender lead rather than kill the game off. We have tried this repeatedly in the past and failed repeatedly.

Final should be good though. Come on Spain!

Vam · Go Outside.

Maddog wrote:

That's a wrap from North Texas. I'm glad that everyone had a good time, and I think most folks here are glad they did (there's a few assholes everywhere).

😊 👏🏻👏🏻 For me, the best World Cup overall presentation from pretty much every perspective - except for when 🇮🇹 Italia won (4 times 😜)

Credit where it’s due. Your country is beautiful. Your vast, state-of-the-art stadiums are magnificent. You’ve perfected the art of service with a smile, which can make shopping/dining out in the US a fabulous experience.

Most importantly, and as I’ve always thought, Americans are among the most welcoming, friendly, generous-spirited, vibrant people I’ve ever personally encountered.

No wonder you got game, Dawg I just wish you guys could finally purge that loathsome, squalid rabble of parasites currently squatting in Washington.

Vam · Go Outside.

‘Come on Spain!’

It’s the only solution, Avon.

I want to see Gianni cry…😈

🇪🇸 VA-MO-NOS 🇪🇸

Magica · Still Here!

Vam wrote:
‘Come on Spain!’
It’s the only solution, Avon.
I want to see Gianni cry…😈
🇪🇸 VA-MO-NOS 🇪🇸

Hi Vams. Yes I'm routing for Spain Sunday. I detest the Argies, they are a dirty team.

England still playing France Saturday. Come on England, hold your heads up and best France!

Red Okktober · Musing at the Chaos

3rd place playoff will just be a sad England playing a sad France, or Loser v Loser.

Once you are out you should pack your bags and go home. The chance of glory has gone and it's a bit meh to hang around playing a meaningless match to see who comes third.

More money for FIFA though - TV rights, ticket sales, advertising etc

Vam · Go Outside.

Red Okktober wrote:
As with France yesterday, it's the manager's fault and he should fall on his sword.

Too many defensive substitutes, way too early as well. Should have gone for the jugular instead of sitting back and inviting pressure.

2-1 doesn't reflect the Argentine dominance in the last 20 minutes, it played out more like a 4-1 game. No excuses whatsoever

Cracking match up for the final though.

I was a bit ’🫪say whaaaat??’ at all those 11th hour changes too. But what the hell do I know 🤷🏻‍♀️

Fwiw, I saw a clip of the English manager this morning saying he takes full responsibility.

Vam · Go Outside.

Red Okktober wrote:
Syl wrote:

I hope so.
I feel this world cup has been rigged from the start. The refs all seem blind to blatant fouling....some of the decisions in the matches I have watched have been farcical.
The South Americans always play on the edge of the rules. I wouldn't say it was rigged as such, more like they have become experts at just about getting away with it.

Respectfully, I would! I can’t believe at least a couple of those fouls didn’t result in Red Cards.

Meant to post this earlier for everyone’s viewing pleasure, but I didn’t want to spam the thread.

The Argys, ‘getting away with it’ 🤷🏻‍♀️ (recommend muting the crappy music)….

https://x.com/Cr7stianismo_/status/2077640992501489700/video/1?s=61

Vam · Go Outside.

Magica wrote:
Vam wrote:
‘Come on Spain!’
It’s the only solution, Avon.
I want to see Gianni cry…😈
🇪🇸 VA-MO-NOS 🇪🇸
Hi Vams. Yes I'm routing for Spain Sunday. I detest the Argies, they are a dirty team.
England still playing France Saturday. Come on England, hold your heads up and best France!

They really are, Mags.

If you watch the clip I just posted, you’ll get as seriously pissed off as I did 😂 Imho, England can definitely hold their heads up because they were up against the most malicious rabble I’ve ever seen on a football pitch.

Magica · Still Here!

Vam wrote:
Magica wrote:
Vam wrote:
‘Come on Spain!’
It’s the only solution, Avon.
I want to see Gianni cry…😈
🇪🇸 VA-MO-NOS 🇪🇸
Hi Vams. Yes I'm routing for Spain Sunday. I detest the Argies, they are a dirty team.
England still playing France Saturday. Come on England, hold your heads up and best France!
They really are, Mags.
If you watch the clip I just posted, you’ll get as seriously pissed off as I did 😂 Imho, England can definitely hold their heads up because they were up against the most malicious rabble I’ve ever seen on a football pitch.

Very true Vams

Magica · Still Here!

Vam wrote:
Magica wrote:
Vam wrote:
‘Come on Spain!’
It’s the only solution, Avon.
I want to see Gianni cry…😈
🇪🇸 VA-MO-NOS 🇪🇸
Hi Vams. Yes I'm routing for Spain Sunday. I detest the Argies, they are a dirty team.
England still playing France Saturday. Come on England, hold your heads up and best France!
They really are, Mags.
If you watch the clip I just posted, you’ll get as seriously pissed off as I did 😂 Imho, England can definitely hold their heads up because they were up against the most malicious rabble I’ve ever seen on a football pitch.

I saw that Vams, so dirty. I said that last night. Whistle not blown, nothing. Ref on their side! 😠

Barksdale · Musing at the Chaos

Vam wrote:
I was a bit ’🫪say whaaaat??’ at all those 11th hour changes too. But what the hell do I know 🤷🏻‍♀️

No one I was with watching the game understood them either.

We will probably hear a lot about this stat in the years to come: "from Gordon's goal in the 55th minute to Martínez's goal in the 92nd minute England had 12% possession to Argentina's 88%. The only team with a lower percentage of possession in that same time frame at this World Cup was Qatar in the 6-0 loss when they were down to nine players (11%)."

Inviting wave after wave of pressure from a side with arguably the world's greatest player, hoofing it out and hoping for the best was never going to end well.

Vam · Go Outside.

Magica wrote:
Very true Vams

Then this quick clip will give you a laugh….Jude has run out of fucks to give I love that lad!

https://x.com/babeweezy55/status/2077542074866426295?s=61

The Spanish are reporting that Jude told Messi the whole world knows he’s still there because the Argy team, and Messi especially, are protected. Jude then laughed at Messi and told him ‘Ronaldo is better than you.’ as he walked away.
Followed by Messi immediately running to the ref to complain like a little Diva

Red Okktober · Musing at the Chaos

Vam wrote:

Respectfully, I would! I can’t believe at least a couple of those fouls didn’t result in Red Cards.
Meant to post this earlier for everyone’s viewing pleasure, but I didn’t want to spam the thread.

The Argys, ‘getting away with it’ 🤷🏻‍♀️ (recommend muting the crappy music)….
https://x.com/Cr7stianismo_/status/2077640992501489700/video/1?s=61

That's how South Americans have always played football - I posted further up that they are generally seen as 'dirty cheating bastards' and last night was a good example. They don't care about reputations and will do anything to win.

Apart from trying to gain an advantage with their dirty tricks, it disrupts the flow of the other team and winds them up, perhaps getting them to retaliate. Nothing pleases a South American more than getting an opponent sent off for retaliation.

Rigged would indicate that someone has been paid off, and I don't think that's the case. They will test the referee early on and see how lenient he is, then go about their work accordingly. The refs throughout the whole tournament have been letting a lot of things go, more than any WC I can remember, which of course suits the S Americans down to the ground.